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Mr J said:
W . Asking him is an unnecessary formality. Simply a dying tradition.
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of course its unnecessary , and yes a dying tradition .......... hence the reason he wants to ask the father personally . shows respect and it shows class .......

distinct lack of that in todays world

hey i,d be impressed if someone flew the country to ask me ,......... right before i took him fishing with me and the uncles and found out his true intentions towards my daughter
 
Prospector said:
Um, if you are into respect and 'right thing to do' as far as asking for her hand in marriage, you might just have thought when you were pregnant, .
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who made the rules about because you are pregnant/have kids you must get married ?

i must have missed that page

they wish to get married now for whatever reasons and the young bloke being chivalrous and respectful in asking the father properly
 

Did you read the bit in the brackets after my first post? Obviously not! Here it is again:
(BTW I have nothing against people having children and not going through the 'wedding' but why oh why try bother with asking for the woman's hand after all this time and think you are doing things the right way....)
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I think once you have produced two kids, asking the father for the woman's hand in marriage is just bogan. They werent all that young either - around 38 years of age. Kinda late to be asking 'permission' and showing respect once you have produced two children under the pretext of doing things 'the right way' - their words.
 
Prospector said:
I think once you have produced two kids, asking the father for the woman's hand in marriage is just bogan. .
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hahahahahahahah

no offense intended

but that use of the word "bogan" in that way must be the funniest way ive seen it used yet
 
Another reference as to the etymology of bogan.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bogan

The origin of the term 'bogan' as a pejorative is unclear; both the Macquarie Dictionary and the Australian Oxford Dictionary cite its origin as unknown. Comparison might be made[citation needed] with the Scots Gaelic bòcan or the Manx buggane, mythological creatures with elements of mischief, nuisance and/or malice.

The Australian National Dictionary Centre (ANDC) included the word in its Australian dictionary project[2] in 1991, attributing the earliest known reference to a 1985 surfing magazine. The 1902 poem "City of Dreadful Thirst" by Australian poet Banjo Paterson makes reference to a "Bogan shower" as a term meaning "three raindrops and some dust". However this is clearly a reference to the dry region around the Bogan River in Central Western NSW.[3] There are places in western New South Wales that contain 'bogan' in their name — including Bogan Shire, the Bogan River and the rural village of Bogan Gate — but they are not regarded as the source of the term.[2]

The term's popular usage emerged in Melbourne's suburbs in the late 1970s and early 1980s as a non-pejorative term, used by fans of Heavy Metal and Hard Rock music to describe themselves, and was used almost interchangeably with "head-banger". Bogans typically wore "acid wash" jeans, moccasins, and band T-shirts; had "mullet" style haircuts; and lived in the suburbs. The usage of the term has since changed to indicate someone generally suburban and poorly educated, and has little relation to the original usage which was specific to Heavy Metal and Hard Rock fans. Also, the usage has changed to include females. Female bogans were known as "mocca chicks" for the moccasins which were customarily worn as footwear.

or here

The Macquarie dictionary defines it thus:

bogan noun 1. a fool; idiot. 2. WA a lout or hooligan, especially of a particular social group noted for wearing black shirt and jeans. 3. Tasmania a rough lout or hooligan. In Hobart equivalent to a Chigga. [probably from Bogan a river in NSW]
 

Back in the 70's we used the term "bogs" rather than boguns. This was around Morley... prime bogun territory at the time, half of everyone wore black tee-shirts and black ripple sole desert boots.
 
8 Pages of Bogan definition!

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bogan

Page 5 - just for you Wayne:

In Western Australia, "bogans" are termed "bogs". "Bogan" actually derives from the name of a small rural town in NSW.
"Geez, the whole pub is chocka with bogs. Let's go somewhere else."

"No way I'd live in Mandurah, it's full of drunk bogs."

"On my first trip to the Eastern States, somebody called me a bogan."
 
I dont see what is wrong with asking the father (or mother) before proposing to ones partner? I intend to do this. Granted, I will be asking for their "blessing" rather than "permission".
 
gav said:
I dont see what is wrong with asking the father (or mother) before proposing to ones partner? I intend to do this. Granted, I will be asking for their "blessing" rather than "permission".
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Good point Gav. It seems today that chivalry is dead in this post modernistic world we live in. A mate of mine has got a stunning 19 year old daughter, her "boyfriend" come around to her house to meet the parents for the first time. The "F" word slipped a few times and my mate thought this was just nerves. The d!ckhead then tried to light up a smoke in the loungeroom of the house. BIG MISTAKE. I think in this case the "boyfriend" should have asked for permission first. The poor lad was skull dragged from the house and my mate said to the daughter "If he isn't going to respect my house then he is not going to respect YOU !"
 
It's not 'wrong', but it isn't relevant to our age. It is a tradition that stems from an era where permission was often required in order to wed. Now, it's only a gesture, and while it's not 'wrong', it's not the 'right' way either.

It seems today that chivalry is dead in this post modernistic world we live in
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It has nothing to do with chivalry.

edit, added the bold .
 

Mandurah is indeed full of drunken bogs!

More pedantic and uninteresting points.

Bogs were also known as "rocks"

Surfies (the social group, as opposed to socially unaligned surfers) were also called "skegs".

...and we referred to skinheads as scungeheads... but never to their face
 
Gav and TS, I am not saying that seeking consent or blessing from your future in laws is a bogan thing to when a couple wish to marry. But once you have had 1 child, let alone 2 children, well, what exactly are you seeking consent for? You have produced two children so seeking consent to getting married after this seems kind of irrelevant if your concern is 'doing things right' The time for that has long gone!
 

What is the right way Mr J ? Have a coupla kids first then ask for her hand in marraiage from the Old Man? I dunno ... I kinda like the old traditional values that somehow seem to be let go.
 

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No problemo here Prospector. Got you loud and clear on this one. Maybe when they did it the first and second time they were being "rebellious" and now as they have realised that they have grown up a bit then it is time to do things "the right way". Whatever that is these days?
 
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