chops_a_must
Printing My Own Money
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Eddie makes some pretty solid allegations against Citi.........I'm not sure I've ever heard a story like that one about Citi...another matter for ASIC no doubt..
I actually gathered an ounce of respect for Eddie and at 1.75 at close, may even do some numbers on an ABS investment.......sound like ABS may actually fund some growth with operating cash flows...please talk me out of doing some numbers ROE..surely ABS even has a price..or maybe no...
Don't you consider the directors ARE sholders, they are some of the biggest shareholders. Anything they do to protect the assets of the directors is almost certainly in the best interests of other shareholders.
Kohler, Gottliebsen and Bartholomeusz have just released this exslusive interview with Eddy Groves.
It's awesome
http://www.businessspectator.com.au/bs.nsf/Article/KGB-INTERROGATION-Eddy-Groves-CG4L5?OpenDocument
Eddy has a bit of a go at a few people and some big companies on the way too.
ABS @ the current price of $1.47 is an absolute bargain IMHO
Assuming the hiccup in current earnings is due to seasonality and the operations of the business is still sound, it's currently trading at a 2008 projected earnings yield of 20% and 2009 earnings yield of 28%
The price to book value is 0.32
Bargain! Bargain! Bargain!
ABS @ the current price of $1.47 is an absolute bargain IMHO
Assuming the hiccup in current earnings is due to seasonality and the operations of the business is still sound, it's currently trading at a 2008 projected earnings yield of 20% and 2009 earnings yield of 28%
The price to book value is 0.32
Bargain! Bargain! Bargain!
Then buy some more no one stopping you from doing it... spend a few millions and you can own the whole company
Game over for three directors, Eddie his wife and Kemp all shares gone.. another margin call today
they together hold less than 50,000 shares
ABC Learning founder sells most of stake
March 7, 2008 - 7:07PM
http://news.smh.com.au/abc-learning-founder-sells-most-of-stake/20080307-1xvg.html
ABC Learning Centres Ltd founder Eddie Groves has been forced to sell almost his entire stake in the company after facing more margins calls.
Mr Groves sold off more than 12 million shares on Thursday alone, at $2.14 apiece - leaving him with only 3,186 ordinary shares in the company he built up from a single childcare centre in Brisbane 20 years ago....."
Hi Roe
Just a quick question. How do you know that information. I've been waiting for an announcement on the ASX is there somewhere else you can find out first. I suspect some of the directors shares were sold before margin calls, which was the primary reason for flogging the US assets i.e. for a short term boost in the price.
Cheers
Gary
Poor fella. He returned *only* $25.7 Million to his bank account on the Thursday, huh? That must hurt. I don't think I'd be happy with *only* $25.7 Million bucks on one day. Who could possibly live on that? We better cut the poor guy some slack, eh?
LOL
AJ
I just use ASX announcement and broker site announcement which usually they get from ASX anyway..
I also watch the volume...unusually high volume either indicates the stock is trade out of existence or margin call.
so regardless if some people denied that fact (margin call) I still use volume.
Volume speak louder than words
I don't hold ABS..and I feel sorry for Eddie to lost it all but at the same time I think he should be more responsible and accept the fact he doesn't understand how margin call and leverage works or have some very very bad advisers.
Banks are in the business of making money, they are not your family or close friends when it comes to crunch time they will do what ever it takes to protect their money. If they happen to send you broke well they will do that as long as they can recover the money.
You still have to credit eddy groves for starting up a business from scratch and building it into an empire. Although his finance skills may not be top notch he's still regarded as a top business manager in Australia. I'd hate to see him leave and start up another child care centre.
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