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Julia said:
Well, gg, we will all comment as a result of what we experience. If I'm listening to Richard Gill explaining the nuances of a symphony, or being prompted to read a new writer as a result of an insightful interview with the author, I am not overcome by political groupthink, much as I acknowledge its existence in many areas of the ABC.
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I would agree Julia, but when it is good, it is very good, and when it is bad it is awful.

The better presenters are on ordinary wages and not part of the "Luvvie Millionaires" row of presenters who appeal only to twitterati and not ordinary Australians.

gg
 
ABC 774 radio presenter John Faine finished up in the poop over his handling of the AWU slush fund allegations

The interviews, conducted on November 23 with former 2UE presenter Michael Smith and The Age's editor-at-large Mark Baker, led to at least one formal complaint to the ABC's complaints department.
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"Audience and Consumer Affairs have concluded that the interviews were not conducted in keeping with ABC impartiality requirements. The argumentative style of the interviews by Mr Faine, combined with a pattern of strongly stated personal opinions that at times oversimplified the issues at hand, was not in keeping with the ABC's rigorous impartiality standards for current affairs content.
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http://www.theaustralian.com.au/med...senter-jon-faine/story-e6frg996-1226565457692
 
Garpal Gumnut said:
I was stopped at a State/Federal Roadblock today with about 10 workers on a major highway, and was forced to listen to ABC Radio National Rural Report.

I expected to be regaled with low prices, lack of rain, etc. etc. but instead suffered 18 minutes of bloody global warming claptrap.

Do not these jokers realise the tide has turned against soft left/green propaganda.

I pity a farmer on his tractor or bike, having to listen to this rubbish.

gg
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LOL. Clearly you're not on the land. Successful farmers don't have the choice not to listen to some level of science if they want to make a buck.
We might not like greenies, or the science they pedal. but I'd like to see fire fought with fire (as opposed to the usual - some yardbird talking out their backside without doing any research of their own). so far most of the world's scientists agree that global warming is real. if that's an issue for someone, it just means they like to put their head up their backside, it's nothing to be proud of either. it doesn't help that most of the little that goes against the trend comes from the fossil fuel sector either. sheesh. then the question is do we care.

Bottom line is, as an investor, if you can't at least work out what denier scientists and greenie scientists agree on - then good luck on the exchange. Unless of course your in media. The more ignorance there, the faster you'll make a buck. and many have ;) Mind you, you have to know when to jump ship.


As an aside, I'm not sure how it's political if it's not even a point of difference in the country's political parties. No major party has come out saying climate change isn't real or they know better than the science they've looked at - well, not clearly anyway. It might be better if there was more 'coping with wet and dry' farm advice on the wire though, rather than the odd program. But that's another story.
 
Calliope said:
Perhaps you mean peddle.
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lol peddle but only with a bicycle helmet.

gg

Miss Hale said:
What will be his punishment then, a slap on the wrist with a limp lettuce leaf? Will he be making an on-air apology? Perhaps he will be suspended for a few weeks...somehow I doubt it :rolleyes:
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It's like many pre-GFC public service types of employment.

I have no idea what sort of a contract he is on, if it is a company negotiated contract with the ABC, unless he has broken his contract there is nothing they can do.

If he is an employee, there is probably nothing they will do. Send it to HR and counsel him over a latte or a bicycle helmet.

In any case it is immaterial.

We need guys like Faine to show the inanity of groupthink. I'd keep him.

In 200 years they will dig his tapes up and piss themselves laughing.

gg
 
After a long day in the theatre, I hopped into my car, and turned on the radio to hear a short snippet about Thomson's arrest.


I thought I could enjoy a cold drink and watch the 7:30 report about this, but it was just a small segment. I understand it was done to death before, but a real political analysis about Gillard's miraculous choice to pseudo-call an election the day before this, and along with her support etc. surely warranted a bit of an analysis.

Does it really surprise me?

MW
 
medicowallet said:
After a long day in the theatre, I hopped into my car, and turned on the radio to hear a short snippet about Thomson's arrest.


I thought I could enjoy a cold drink and watch the 7:30 report about this, but it was just a small segment. I understand it was done to death before, but a real political analysis about Gillard's miraculous choice to pseudo-call an election the day before this, and along with her support etc. surely warranted a bit of an analysis.

Does it really surprise me?

MW
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Agree mw, it was done to death in the SMH and Australian online, and probably didn't warrant much on 7.30, to be fair to them.

They will await a better dissection once the technicians have sprinkled some formaldehyde upon the matter.

I am slowly resurfacing from the Goldfield Ashes in Charters Towers, am just reconnecting with the wider world, but it got a muted response in the Public Bar this evening at the hotel.

Comments mostly rhymed with punt.

gg
 
Garpal Gumnut said:
It's like many pre-GFC public service types of employment.

I have no idea what sort of a contract he is on, if it is a company negotiated contract with the ABC, unless he has broken his contract there is nothing they can do.

If he is an employee, there is probably nothing they will do. Send it to HR and counsel him over a latte or a bicycle helmet.

In any case it is immaterial.

We need guys like Faine to show the inanity of groupthink. I'd keep him.

In 200 years they will dig his tapes up and piss themselves laughing.

gg
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Seems Faine is not prepared to take his slap on the wrist with a limp lettuce leaf anyway :rolleyes:

http://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2013/02/heres-another-fight-jon-faine-will-fight-his-employer.html

The arrogance of this man is incredible, he can't admit he is wrong. Perhaps if he is so unhappy with the ABC he will resign ;)
 
From what I have seen of the ABC, if I was the government I would sell it off.
It bows and scrapes to the government of the day, therefore it is of no value if you are not in government.
Just sell it off, which is a funny statement from me as I generally am against privatisation.
However through this period of government, to me, it has shown itself to be of no public benefit whatsoever.
It is not providing a public service, more an advertising media for the government of the day. I'm sure it would be the same whichever party was in office.
It may be an essential service, when I lived in the NW of WA in the late 60's to early 80's, they were the only service you recieved.
However now with the media footprint increasing, so the requirement for the ABC decreases and their dependence on government funding becomes more obvious.:D
Talk about being the master of your own demise.:cry:
Sad, just very sad.
 
sptrawler said:
From what I have seen of the ABC, if I was the government I would sell it off.
It bows and scrapes to the government of the day, therefore it is of no value if you are not in government.
Just sell it off, which is a funny statement from me as I generally am against privatisation.
However through this period of government, to me, it has shown itself to be of no public benefit whatsoever.
It is not providing a public service, more an advertising media for the government of the day. I'm sure it would be the same whichever party was in office.
It may be an essential service, when I lived in the NW of WA in the late 60's to early 80's, they were the only service you recieved.
However now with the media footprint increasing, so the requirement for the ABC decreases and their dependence on government funding becomes more obvious.:D
Talk about being the master of your own demise.:cry:
Sad, just very sad.
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The commercial channels have no serious current affairs shows since sunday went off air.
 
I listened to a segment of ABC's Newsradio 24 this morning and when they came to the latest Newspoll figures, they said something like - the figures were bad for Labor, the coalition maintained their lead over Labor - and then went on to give the running results of their own poll which was "do you believe the validity of opinion polls" or something like that.

I don't know what was said in earlier segments, but the results were truly bad for Labor and Gillard. The coalition did not just maintain their lead, but increased it. Their treatment of these results were in stark contrast to the treatment of the previous (or prior to previous) results where Labor seemed to be catching the coalition. Those results were done to death that particular day. And they didn't run an ABC poll on the validity of polls then.

Needless to say the ABC's own poll showed that most put little credibility in the Newspoll results. However, i doubt when they started the ABC poll if they explained how Newspoll is conducted and also explained how the ABC poll would not qualify as a valid poll in itself, as it does not reflect an audience that is a representative cross-section of the populace.
 
In contrast, what I heard on RN was a very clear commentary on how bad the Newspoll was for Labor.
Fran Kelly was having Simon Crean on later but I missed that.
 
banco said:
The commercial channels have no serious current affairs shows since sunday went off air.
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That's very true, also the ABC business programmes are good. I just wish they would tone down the political bias toward the government of the day.:xyxthumbs
 
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