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So I looked up memberships:
approximate of course

Libs 50,000
Labs 40,000
Greens 10,000


Cripes that's only 100k, the Melbourne cricket club has more than that and another 200,00 waiting to get in! No wonder the 2,000,000 trade union members get a bit miffed at the other 50,000 sticking their noses in. :rolleyes:
 
Tisme said:
So I looked up memberships:
approximate of course

Libs 50,000
Labs 40,000
Greens 10,000


Cripes that's only 100k, the Melbourne cricket club has more than that and another 200,00 waiting to get in! No wonder the 2,000,000 trade union members get a bit miffed at the other 50,000 sticking their noses in. :rolleyes:
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Yes, it's pretty pathetic membership for all parties

Getup claims 600,000 + but I find that hard to believe, and it's not a party anyway.
 
wayneL said:
The fact remains that the ABC is using tactics against Abbott et al based mostly on psychology rather than substance.

We shouldn't give a rat's whether Abbot winked, or Hockey smoked a cigar, we should focus on how they're running the country and the alternatives offered should there be an election.... dispassionately.

That's not what we're getting from the ABC, we're getting subtle campaigning for the Labor/Green Axis.
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It seems to me the "ABC" and some Libs are now waging a war of extermination upon each other, human nature being as it is, if I was an ABC employee, I would be fighting with all I could muster against a govt that is obviously bent on reducing them. One would imagine relations between Mark Scott and Govt would be poor.
It seems they would sack him in an instant if they could.

I doubt the dodgy tweet handle would be a deliberate slight though, as the operator that allowed that would know such a slip-up in these times would result in discipline or dismissal
 
If you want to talk of ABC bias, there were three Federal Ministers on ABC Breakfast this morning (Dutton, Freidenberg and Morrison) and NO Labor spokesmen.

NOW THAT'S BIAS

:D
 
awg said:
I doubt the dodgy tweet handle would be a deliberate slight though, as the operator that allowed that would know such a slip-up in these times would result in discipline or dismissal
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Discipline or dismiss him/her ? That's not how their ABC work.

They would more likely give them a party and promote them.
 
noco said:
That is your opinion...do you have proof?

Put or shut up.
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Most of this thread is all opinion based.

But if we look at the actual facts then we know that the ABC is the most trusted news outlet in the country (http://www.crikey.com.au/2013/12/18...telegraph-takes-a-hit/?wpmp_switcher=mobile)-) , we know that Leigh Sales has been cleared by the independent watchdog twice for her interview of Tony Abbott and Joe Hockey in his post budget interview. We know that a study to measure media slant actually demonstrated that the ABC has a slight bias towards the coalition.(http://www.andrewleigh.org/pdf/MediaSlant.pdf)

Now onto your continual assertion that the majority of the ABC staff vote greens or labor, the poll conducted included only 34 ABC journalists which is an incredibly small sample size with large room for error considering the ABC employs over 4500. There is no way you can conclude that the majority of ABC staff lean a certain way based from that poll but I know you'll continue to attack the ABC and won't drop this but this is why people don't accept your assertion.
 
Crikey overhang!

Crikey.com is overtly left biased. I would never expect an unbiased piece on bias from a biased source.

Look, I can say something like "Abbott plays tiddleywinks" and depending on my tone and body language, can cause that to sound positive, neutral or negative.

It's all context. The ABC is usually clever enough to use that.
 
wayneL said:
Crikey overhang!

Crikey.com is overtly left biased. I would never expect an unbiased piece on bias from a biased source.

Look, I can say something like "Abbott plays tiddleywinks" and depending on my tone and body language, can cause that to sound positive, neutral or negative.

It's all context. The ABC is usually clever enough to use that.
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Perhaps you would like to point out any part of the Australian media that IS NOT biased in any way ?
 
wayneL said:
Crikey overhang!

Crikey.com is overtly left biased. I would never expect an unbiased piece on bias from a biased source.

Look, I can say something like "Abbott plays tiddleywinks" and depending on my tone and body language, can cause that to sound positive, neutral or negative.

It's all context. The ABC is usually clever enough to use that.
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Indeed it is Wayne but if you could point me to a non biased media news outlet then by all means please do but I wasn't referring to the editorial piece but rather the data from the essential polling that the article contained. I don't think you'll find these results in any news corp piece as it doesn't bode well for them. If you have something that disproves this poll to discredit the article then by all means post it.
 
SirRumpole said:
It's the only media outlet to submit to independent reviews which have cleared them of bias.
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SR, how would you feel if the ABC were politically biased heavily to the right? How would you feel if Q&A had around 5 liberal supporters and one labor supporter and gotcha questions to ridicule labor? How would you feel if most of the discussion was anti-labor/ pro-liberal with very little counter views from labor people?

If you are a taxpayer paying for the ABC, I would imagine you would not be happy...:eek:


I'm not sure if their "independent" reviewers are unbiased. ABC's last choice of Ray Martin says it all, imo.
 
sails said:
SR, how would you feel if the ABC were politically biased heavily to the right? How would you feel if Q&A had around 5 liberal supporters and one labor supporter and gotcha questions to ridicule labor? How would you feel if most of the discussion was anti-labor/ pro-liberal with very little counter views from labor people?
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I would call it News Ltd.
 
dutchie said:
Discipline or dismiss him/her ? That's not how their ABC work.

They would more likely give them a party and promote them.
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If they are still covered by the Public Service Act, in any case such as this,
(public stuff-up)...an internal investigation is convened, and an outcome recommended.
The Act defines this process.

If the operator made even a simple excusable mistake, they would still probably receive an official warning.
Not a very just or enjoyable experience for anyone subject to it when I was a Public Servant.

ps. causing yours "bosses" to look like an ass in public is not a winner...no different to private enterprise really:)
 
SirRumpole said:
I would call it News Ltd.
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I doubt you would be happy about that even if "independent" reviewers stated they were not biased at all...:D

How the ABC can pretend they are not biased in their political programs is beyond stupid. And Turnbull is only showing his labor/green leanings by doing nothing about it. He is clearly not suitable for Liberal leadership when he can't manage to bring in some necessary balance in his own portfolio, imo.
 
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