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AAPL - Apple Inc. (NASDAQ)

Forget the crypto crash, the most worrying signal from financial markets came from the stock widely considered among the safest in the world.

Last week, shares in Apple fell almost 5 per cent, taking its year-to-date losses to 19.2 per cent. The slump – which would have been much worse were it not for Wall Street’s dead-cat bounce on Friday night, which helped Apple rise more than 3 per cent – means the tech giant’s stock is now underperforming the S&P 500 for the year.

And with its shares trading at $US147, Apple has a market value of $US2.4 trillion ($3.5 trillion) and is one of the most widely held stocks in the world, accounting for 7 per cent of the S&P 500 and more than 11 per cent of the Nasdaq 100.
 
SP is climbing again. As a holder for 2 years, I've recently contemplated selling because my thinking has been that the phone market is saturated and the competition sophisticated. Reading the article below has reminded me that software is the new resource for companies like Apple.

 
Another path to 'own' the customer.

The tremendous early success in the US of Apple’s 4.15% annual rate savings product, run from an iPhone (and banked in a Goldman Sachs branch in Arizona) has already seen $US1 billion or more of new deposits via more than 240,000 new accounts opened by owners of the ubiquitous phone.

That this surge of fresh money comes at a time when bank deposits are flowing out of small and medium US banks and into larger ones – and Apple’s product – tells us how trusted the iPhone maker has become for millions of Americans.

The Commonwealth Bank said into a Senate inquiry into the influence of international digital platforms that “time is of the essence” when it comes to giving the Reserve Bank new powers to regulate Apple, and urged the federal government to take a leading role targeting big tech platforms entering the financial services sector to ensure they face the same rules as banks and other payment providers.

CBA said in its submission that payments with digital wallets on smartphones continue to surge and are more popular in Australia than many other countries
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Apple's SP has been steadily climbing since February. I've been thinking about selling to finance a new project, but with the launch of Apple's new product I'm in two frames of mind. Apple’s Vision Pro is a technical marvel. Will anyone buy it?



 
Not to mention the enormous $90 Billion share buy back, which is mind blowing that’s about the market cap of Fortescue metals, Woolworths and Coles combined. That’s a lot of shares disappearing off the market, and it is growing the remaining shareholders share of the business substantially.

 
... with the launch of Apple's new product I'm in two frames of mind. Apple’s Vision Pro is a technical marvel. Will anyone buy it?
The 10th Man chimes in...
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How to Argue About Money​

You might have heard that Apple recently introduced a VR headset—we will get to that in a second…

But first, if you were to neatly summarize what I do for a living, it would be that I argue about money. I argue about money on Twitter; I argue about money in my newsletters—I am constantly trying to be persuasive when it comes to money decisions.
The Greeks practically invented arguing. This was an evolution from beating people over the head with a stick. When they debated, it typically took three forms:

  • Logos, or arguing through logic. You might say that Apple (AAPL) is in the 95th percentile of its valuation throughout history and, therefore, is overvalued and should be sold short.
  • Ethos, or arguing through credibility. You might say that you have 24 years of experience in the markets and used to be a tech analyst at Goldman Sachs—and therefore, you have a lot of credibility when it comes to AAPL.
  • Pathos, or arguing through feeling. You might say that AAPL’s VR headset is at the forefront of a technological revolution. It is the future, and if you don’t participate in it, you will get left behind.
What I’ve found in the financial industry is that most people argue with logos. They are good with the numbers. They know the numbers and can blind you with science and statistics and beat you into submission with calculations.
I tend to do the opposite. I tend to argue with pathos, evoking strong feelings with my writing style that compels people to action. I also think that the financial markets basically run on pathos and that the numbers don’t matter much, except at the extremes.
Some people can argue through ethos. I can, a little bit—by this point, I have lots of experience. A guy like James Grant can go on a podcast and speak with lots of ethos because he has the most-respected newsletter in history.

We’re All Going to Have These Headsets

I said I would get back to the headset.
Someone recently posited to me a theory on AAPL’s headset… that this product development marks a sentiment top in the stock. Well, the stock is on the highs. But I’ve seen this before—I remember when the iPhone 5 launch was supposed to be the top in the stock. It was, for a while. And the market didn’t seem to be too impressed with the product launch the next day.
Let me put it this way: Zuckerberg bet his entire company and his entire fortune on the idea that VR would be the future. I remember when he bought Oculus VR for a billion or so—everyone thought that Zuckerberg was just an entertaining oddball. This is the same guy who made 500X on Instagram. I take these sorts of things seriously.

For example, when the iPhone was invented, did you think that you would be able to one day hail a cab with it? Here’s an application nobody thought of: I recently bought an app to tune the strings of my new guitar. I can’t even imagine the possibilities of these headsets, and I think that AAPL will be the leader in them. The reviews are pretty great.

Pathos

See, there I am again, arguing through pathos.
Logos tells you what is happening today. It looks at the data in a static fashion and tells you what is going on right now. When you are arguing with pathos, you are arguing about the future. And everyone loves to argue about the future..
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People seem pretty excited about them, and they seem to be quite a bit more advanced than anything else on the market.

 
Have you tried them yet @Value Collector ? Everyone seems pretty excited about them.

Maybe Rowan Atkinson was using them? ?



At $5,500 no one in Australia will be able to afford them.
 
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Have you tried them yet @Value Collector ? Everyone seems pretty excited about them.

Maybe Rowan Atkinson was using them? ?



At $5,500 no one in Australia will be able to afford them.
No I haven’t tried them myself, but I watched a bunch of reviews.

It will be the same as the rest of the Apple products, those people that have the money will buy the Apple product, and those without will buy the cheaper Samsung knock-off and then annoy us all for the next 5 years talking about how their Samsung knock-off is better in some weird way that none of us care about,.. hahahaha.

But in reality I think the head set is going to be a pretty niche market, I think I will get a pair just to try them, but from the sound of it the people that will get the most out of it are people that work on their computers a lot, video editors seem especially excited by some of the features they saw at the demo.
 


 
Personally the wife and I have talked about this for years, no joke, the wife is high functioning autistic but she doesn't know it because there wasn't such a thing when we got married in 1976 and I tell her she is normal with an intolerance of people. ?
But moving on, for a long time I have been going on about how the education standards are falling and they are dumbing down kids and I used to get very angry about it.
The other half years ago said, they have to do it so that people can be comfortable without ambition and goals, they will have to learn to live in a virtual world, where everything is done through a virtual reality.
Well I must admit, there appears to be a transition happening, most young people now are far more interested in virtual contact, rather than actually going out to meet someone.
They are far more interested in gaming, than going out to the park and kicking a ball with friends.
Rather than fix obvious deficiencies in the education system, they just make the tests easier and differentiating a pass from a fail more vague.

So as virtual reality is more closely aligned with real reality, will future generations decide it is better to have a virtual holiday, than go through all the crap of carrying luggage through airports, fins a taxi and a hotel to stay in, worry about being robbed, getting scammed? Will they say it is easier to be on a living wage, than having to go to work every day?
Interesting times, I think the missus is well ahead of the curve and probably why I'm still married after 47 years. ?
 
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But the punters have bid it up, year after year.

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PRICE TO SALES

But things are slowing. Ding a ling.
 
Apple has been fined €1.8bn (£1.5bn) by the EU for breaking competition laws over music streaming.

The European Commission's decision was triggered by a complaint by Swedish music streaming service Spotify, which was unhappy about the restriction and Apple's 30% fee..

 
Indeed @Knobby22 there would appear to be some strong headwinds affecting AAPL presently.

There is talk of others, Japan and Australia to name two, following the Europeans in applying reins to Apple. As @Dona Ferentes intimates they are masters of survival and whether this is a pause or a reversal in fortune must be exercising the minds of the great. Today's price action saw an immediate gapping down in price at the open.

On the chart below I've drawn a thin blue line not far from present price action which seems to take in recent support and resistance areas over the last two years. A fall below this may make it a sell. I note the divergence of the RSI from price action recently which I have noted often to signal the end of a bull run once new highs have been reached but not breached.

The Cathys and Warrens of this world will no doubt have their own motley takes on AAPL. The Magnificent 7 have managed to make the NASDAQ a market for experts buying dips and increased the pot of investors. Now that AAPL has managed to join TSLA in retracing there may be a knock on effect should any more falter. The latter has fallen 33% since before Christmas. I haven't held AAPL for some time now and won't until price action settles and moves sideways.




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Apple shares had a nice 5.13% increase today, and a dividend coming soon.

 
Apple shares had a nice 5.13% increase today, and a dividend coming soon.
I was surprised by the market's reaction, I guess the buyback and a promise of increased revenue over the next 12 mo. was enough to satisfy.

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I was surprised by the market's reaction, I guess the buyback and a promise of increased revenue over the next 12 mo. was enough to satisfy.

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AAPL was actually getting very close to what you'd call a value buy with multiples very close to many top 20 ASX stocks AAPL is not really that speculative anymore

 
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