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So because I am successfull and I am able to afford the nicer things in life that I have worked so damn hard for and paid ALL my taxes inclusive of state taxes and council taxes disguised as rates and so on and so forth in YOUR Utopian society I should not purchase myself a bit of luxury and ENJOY the fruits of my labour. Like you say it is all about choice. I think they have tried this previously under the guise of a country called CUBA. The cracker in your statement was "Don't buy insurance" PMSL. Are you for real Gooner?
As the Guvmnt legislated for employers to contribute to SGC for the workers it is unlikely that the "unintelligentia" will have NO retirement funds upon reaching 65. I find it deplorable that to use the basis of intelligence as an indicator of wealth a very low brow position to be in. Many primary industry people would fall away under your totalitarian society comrade. There are plenty of farmers and crayfishermen who could not find their backside in three grabs but need a step ladder to jump into bed becasue their mattress is STUFFED full of $100 notes. Filthy capitalists !
Now you claim to be from the banking fraternity and having a leftist lien. You also claim that you have paid approx $100,000 per annum in tax for 6 or 7 years. OMFG !! Get a better accountant you goose. If you have given this amount of coin to the ATO you should be on the welfare gravy train getting some of your hard earned $$$ back from the ACT olygopoly. JEEEZUZ !! Or do they qualify you as being too rich? You write that you believe in an equitable society but you have private insurance and private schooling. Hmmmmm
Tax Rate from the ATO.
$180,000+ income = $58,000 + 45% for each dollar over $180,000 tax
In your previous job you would have been on approx 225k per anum. Nice package for a brown shirt. Good work if you can get it. Pffffffffftttt !!
So because I am successfull and I am able to afford the nicer things in life that I have worked so damn hard for and paid ALL my taxes inclusive of state taxes and council taxes disguised as rates and so on and so forth in YOUR Utopian society I should not purchase myself a bit of luxury and ENJOY the fruits of my labour. Like you say it is all about choice. I think they have tried this previously under the guise of a country called CUBA. The cracker in your statement was "Don't buy insurance" PMSL. Are you for real Gooner?
As the Guvmnt legislated for employers to contribute to SGC for the workers it is unlikely that the "unintelligentia" will have NO retirement funds upon reaching 65. I find it deplorable that to use the basis of intelligence as an indicator of wealth a very low brow position to be in. Many primary industry people would fall away under your totalitarian society comrade. There are plenty of farmers and crayfishermen who could not find their backside in three grabs but need a step ladder to jump into bed becasue their mattress is STUFFED full of $100 notes. Filthy capitalists !
Now you claim to be from the banking fraternity and having a leftist lien. You also claim that you have paid approx $100,000 per annum in tax for 6 or 7 years. OMFG !! Get a better accountant you goose. If you have given this amount of coin to the ATO you should be on the welfare gravy train getting some of your hard earned $$$ back from the ACT olygopoly. JEEEZUZ !! Or do they qualify you as being too rich? You write that you believe in an equitable society but you have private insurance and private schooling. Hmmmmm
Tax Rate from the ATO.
$180,000+ income = $58,000 + 45% for each dollar over $180,000 tax
In your previous job you would have been on approx 225k per anum. Nice package for a brown shirt. Good work if you can get it. Pffffffffftttt !!
Looks like there are some Commies out there
You'll never have a career in politics suggesting things like that (EDIT: On second thought you might. 30% would be rather high for a single flat rate).hello,
yes lets have equality, quite simple everyone pays the same tax each year
maybe 30%, easy
thankyou
professor robots
Trainspotter
I recall the insurance levy is actually a Fire Service levy, but happy to be corrected on that. Who you gonna call when the house starts burning?
No public pre-schools where I live, only private ones. But kids will go to public school once they are old enough. Private health insurance is an interesting one - I got it because financially I was better off even if I never made a claim because the ATO charges a 1% levy on family income if you do not have health insurance. It also came in useful when we had the kids because it made is easy to go private.
I actually do my own tax return so do not need a better accountant. Sure could have saved tax by investing in various timber and agricultural schemes, but these all seem to have turned out crap. Not much point saving $50 in tax if you lose the $100 investment in the first place. And hey, someone has to pay tax for all those welfare bludgers.
Oh and the brown shirts were the fascists, not the communists. LOL
... This debate has turned non sensical as Wayne Swan has thrown his cards on the table for all to seen and claims that this "agenda" is a great media hack job yet again to frighten the voters into the blue corner. It aint gonna happen. But then again this is what they said about the GST. LOLOL
Swan denies planning tax on wealthy homes:
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,25932638-29277,00.html
The conceptually bit......and its interesting that it is factually incorrect, which part of it is correct?
Oh this is so funny on so many levels.
Stamp duty on expensive home, insurance tax, private school fees. These are all choices. Cheaper home - less stamp duty, insurance taxes - don't buy insurance, school fees - use the government system. Oh and the federal government provide massive subsidies to private schools. About time this rort stopped, next you will be wanting a subsidy for buying books instead of using the library or installing a swimming pool instead of using the council pool. As for whingeing about luxury car tax, as I recall this kicks in around $55k. It may surprise you, but you can buy cars below $55k, even some BMW's and Mercedes.
As for people being too stupid to save for retirement. Well you are sort of right to a certain extent. The reality of a society is that not all of us are smart enough to go to university and become doctors, lawyers and accountants. Some people are destined to collect your garbage, deliver your letters, clean your toilets. And you may not have noticed from your ivory tower, but these jobs do not pay very well and these people, through the genetic outcome of not being intelligent , will not earn enough to pay for their retirement. If we want to ensure these people are not thrown on the scrapheap at age 65, then the money needs to come from somewhere. And taxes on multi-million dollar houses and reducing rich people's welfare such as non-means testing PPOR and government subsidies of private schools and health insurance seem fair ways of doing it.
And before you accuse of me of putting my hand in your pocket, I have paid loads of tax over the years and my income tax bill for the last six or seven years would have been at least $100k a year. And I pay private health insurance and private pre-school fees. I just happen to believe in an equitable society. I have been to the United States and it was not pretty.
What about luxury tax for their car they have bought
What about the very high rates to councils.
What about the taxes on insurances
Massive school fees for their children and they get no benefits.
They pay high taxes, when they retire they get bugger all from the government. That right is reserved for the useless.
How many times do you want them to bend over and take it? Why do we insist on punishing people for being successful and giving the useless gold medals?
MMMM see how people assume
Where did I mention in this post I was one of the rich. I simply find the have-nots are perjurious towards the ones that have.
I am one of those people that admire what people achieve in their life time whether it be simply to paint pictures or create empires.
But when you make your choice don't expect other to pay for it.
Stamp duty on expensive home, insurance tax, private school fees. These are all choices. These are not choices they are there wether we like it or not.
Where did I mention the word private schools mmmmmmmm.
Because these people have achieved a status financially they don't get benefits for public schools that everyone else is entitled to, yet they are expected to contribute more to sociality by way of taxes.
People who don't plan for their own retirement are stupid, its a fact.
I pay for private medical also, but some now I seem to be in the tax bracket where I pay more for Medicare.
I haven't accused you of anything why are you so defensive, its not about you !
It is general thoughts being expressed on a forum.
More tax on the rich?
Being a young 18year old leaving school, I have the desire to be extremely wealthy one day, but after reading this it makes me think, why work hard and be well off, when u just get hit with these sort of things.
What incentive do I have to work hard?
More tax on the rich?
Being a young 18year old leaving school, I have the desire to be extremely wealthy one day, but after reading this it makes me think, why work hard and be well off, when u just get hit with these sort of things.
What incentive do I have to work hard?
Gooner .... go and get a job. Quickly.
You say that money, isn't everything,
But I'd like to see you live without it.
You think you can keep on going living like a king.
Oohh babe, but I strongly doubt it.
My motto is this:- "You don't have to like it, just take the money"
Apply this to everything you do and success is sure to follow.
My motto is this:- "You don't have to like it, just take the money"
Apply this to everything you do and success is sure to follow.
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