2020 Summit Objectives

[2020hindsight]

Do you think the 2020 summit was successful?

hell yes !

https://www.aussiestockforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=284762&highlight=ideas#post284762

of course two days was always gonna be a giant cram.

I liked the way some of the chairmen refused to be bound to the limit of one main point - and gave 6 or 8 instead - shows they had strong and also varied interests/ opinions (imo)

1. The Productivity Agenda – education, skills, training, science and innovation
2. The Future of the Australian Economy
3. Population, sustainability, climate change and water
4. Future directions for rural industries and rural communities
5. A long-term national health strategy – including the challenges of preventative health, workforce planning and the ageing population
6. Strengthening communities, supporting families and social inclusion
7. Options for the future of indigenous Australia
8. Towards a creative Australia: the future of the arts, film and design
9. The future of Australian governance: renewed democracy, a more open government (including the role of the media), the structure of the Federation and the rights and responsibilities of citizens
10. Australia’s future security and prosperity in a rapidly changing region and world.

 

[doogie_goes_off]

Agreed, looks like a good list, now how do we contribute to these areas of discussion so that the passion does not lose momentum? If this now goes to a committee the topics will surely be dominated by those with vested intersts, agendas, extreme views and will be politics all over.

Apologies for being ill informed as to the procees here.

Also how did they choose the 'brightest and best" to attend the summit? For example how many disabled people were represented as a percentage of the 1000 attendees? compared to the community? and were women under represented as previously reported.

 

[2020hindsight]

Agreed, looks like a good list, now how do we contribute to these areas of discussion so that the passion does not lose momentum? If this now goes to a committee the topics will surely be dominated by those with vested intersts, agendas, extreme views and will be politics all over.

Apologies for being ill informed as to the procees here.

Also how did they choose the 'brightest and best" to attend the summit? For example how many disabled people were represented as a percentage of the 1000 attendees? compared to the community? and were women under represented as previously reported.

ahh
I understand there were 8000 names in the short list , and 1000 in the end .
touche lol
don;t ask me how they did the final sort.
(I think women were 50-50 though )

 

[doogie_goes_off]

Actually, looking twice the list is poorly cross referenced, surely prosperity in 10 is the same as in 2. The geography of population as should be discussed as part of 2 makes the rural one seem redundant, especially if you are already talking about skills and productivity.

 

[2020hindsight]

Actually, looking twice the list is poorly cross referenced, surely prosperity in 10 is the same as in 2. The geography of population as should be discussed as part of 2 makes the rural one seem redundant, especially if you are already talking about skills and productivity.

hey doogie - if you'd been on your toes, and if you'd told em that last week , they could have deleted a couple of those groups as duplications/irrelevant/superfluous, and 200 of the thousand could have stayed home for the weekend. gone fishing, played golf maybe?

Then again, lousy weather last weekend (here anyway).

 

[2020hindsight]

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/news/national/the-lighter-side-of-2020/2008/04/20/1208629693930.html

The lighter side of 2020
Doug Conway | April 20, 2008 - 6:28AM
Few would have guessed the first major recommendation of the 2020 summit - that Sydney AFL star Barry Hall should have been suspended for only six weeks instead of seven.

That, at least, was the humorous spin from actor Rhys Muldoon when he hosted an end-of-day-one plenary session which showed delegates had a lighter side.

As they filed into parliament's Great Hall somewhat tardily, Muldoon informed those present he would be talking to members of the summit's productivity stream - "when they get back from lunch".

He then said he had long harboured an ambition to host a show called "Plenary Session Two".

Fellow actor Hugh Jackman piped up from the floor: "Plenary Session Two sounds like a good title. I'm a big believer in sequels."

Jackman also asked delegates what they thought happened to an 80,000-year-old ice core displayed by Governor-General Michael Jeffery in his opening address this morning.

Holding up a glass of water, he said: "It went back into the creative stream. This ice core is eight minutes old."

Other summiteers joined in the spirit.

Health delegate Peter Brookes, addressing the need to fund disease prevention, said: "In 2020 I'm going to be 75, and I'll need the health system. I also looked at my superannuation last week, and I'm still going to be working in the health system."

One creative delegate, asked what she expected from the summit, replied: "I thought we would get a hot meal for lunch."

Referring to the absence from the evening plenary session of actor Cate Blanchett, who gave birth to her third child last week, Muldoon said: "Cate's back at home having three or four more children as we speak."

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/articles/2008/04/18/1208025492219.html

Nation's brightest brain-storm at 2020
April 19, 2008

Aborigines with didgeridoos and wearing loin cloths opened a summit of Australia's brightest minds today, with Prime Minister Kevin Rudd urging fresh ideas to solve indigenous inequality and ease climate change.

.......

Other issues include how to cope with droughts, how to spend billions of dollars from the country's China-driven resource export boom and how to keep economic growth rolling at near 3.9 per cent a year.

...

Power participants included the chief executive of mining giant BHP Billiton, Marius Kloppers and Australia's richest man and Fortescue Metals mining head Andrew Forrest.

Aboriginal Ngambri tribe elder Matilda House-Williams, wearing a cape of possum fur, opened the summit with a challenge to improve the lives of indigenous people, who often live in remote settlements with poor access to health and education.

presumably if this was in America, she'd be wearing a cape of platted beaver fur

 

[Happy]

From ABC, 21 Apr. 08

2020 SUMMIT 'A PR STUNT'


The Australian Institute of Public Affairs (AIPA) says the weekend's 2020 summit was just a public relations stunt by Prime Minister Kevin Rudd.
The conservative think-tank's executive director John Roskam told ABC radio's The World Today program that the summit was a blatantly political exercise.

He said contributors had been handpicked to provide Labor with a "false mandate" for policies involving more government spending and regulation.
Mr Roskam said Federal Opposition Leader Brendan Nelson was a lone cynical voice among the contributors.
"I don't think that anyone can claim that the Rudd Government has got a mandate from anyone other than its hand-selected friends," he said.

Mr Roskam accused Dr Nelson of falling into a Labor party trap by attending the summit and said it would have been much better for democracy if the Opposition Leader had stayed at home.
Warwick Smith, a former Howard government minister who co-chaired the group looking at ideas to boost productivity, has dismissed criticism of the summit.

Mr Smith says he is confident a wide range of views were canvassed.
"Brendan Nelson was there and Warren Truss was there and other representatives," he said.
"I saw the Leader of the Liberal Party in the ACT was there so I think it's not quite right to say it wasn't broadly diverse.

"Everyone had the opportunity to register, to go and others encouraged to go along and we had broad views from business as well."

Couldn’t say that better myself, but I am prepared to wait longer

 

[nioka]

What disappoints me with all the hype is that I haven't heard a mention of infrastructure such as national rail, roads, dams, wharves etc. Seems to me there was too much time taken with airy fairy politically correct discussion. I expected them to top the list of projects we need now as well as by the year 2020.

 

[Happy]

What disappoints me with all the hype is that I haven't heard a mention of infrastructure such as national rail, roads, dams, wharves etc. Seems to me there was too much time taken with airy fairy politically correct discussion. I expected them to top the list of projects we need now as well as by the year 2020.

As if we didn't know for good part of last century that tax system, health, education, rail – roads, soil erosion, water shortages need fixing.

All any Government needs to do is pull the finger out and do it.

 

[2020hindsight]

Warwick Smith, a former Howard government minister who co-chaired the group looking at ideas to boost productivity, has dismissed criticism of the summit.

Mr Smith says he is confident a wide range of views were canvassed.
.....
"Everyone had the opportunity to register, to go and others encouraged to go along and we had broad views from business as well."

Couldn’t say that better myself,

depends which sentence you were refering to
Likewise I don't have any problems with Smith's comments.

I think Nelson had no choice but to attend
but sure he was in a no-win situation agreed.

as for the right wing think-tanks - they probably think they have a monopoly on thinking? wouldn't be t'anking anyone

 

[bearmarket]

As if we didn't know for good part of last century that tax system, health, education, rail – roads, soil erosion, water shortages need fixing.

All any Government needs to do is pull the finger out and do it.

Mr.Rudd has done an excellent job in drawing out ideas for the future, he should be congratulated.

I am somewhat concerned though about the tiresome emphasis on a republic. Her majesty and the governor general do a marvellous job of steering the nation at an international level symbolically.

 

[son of baglimit]

my 2c worth..........

the one issue that such a meeting can address, or at least begin to, is the middle layer of govt - ie state govts.

without researching deeply into federation, i assume the states were let exist as it was part of getting their support for the creation of australia.

but lets face it, the idea of states having certain responsibilities (mainly funded by GST) and the federal govt the rest (except for local issues) is out of date.

it will obvisoly be hard to get state govts to vote themselves out of office and lucrative super packages, but please one day can we remove this layer and allow the government to govern....all aspects necessary of govt.

a pipedream i know.

 

[Superfly]

Superfly ,
I'm guessing deep dowm
in your heart of hearts
you wouldn't put your house on the possibility of Brendan becoming PM
in fact , I'm guessing you wouldn't even put $5 on it

hey - Turnbull - now that's another matter !
(depends if you 're a republican lol)

maybe you'll be able to claim that you're good friends with the publican and is that near enough ?

correct 20/20... would not put $5 on Mr Nelson just now ( that has nothing to do with his performance and everything to do with the media ), but would put money on St Kev and La Jola being thrown out of Canberra in 30 months time...

I would also put money on Gillard cuttting Rudd's throat for the top job at any sign of weakness for Rudd in the polls...

...do you recall what a mess Labour was for most of the last 11 years, they even wanted M Latham to govern the country, that says it all. Rudd can not even get a national ban on plastic bags, let along any hard decisions for the good of Australia.
Before any says John Howard was the same, remember that sending troops to Iraq, the GST, not signing Koyoto, Pacific solution were all hard decisions, that gave endless ammo to Labour to use in the media, which the directionless, infighting, opportunistic, no policy Labour opposition did.

Rudd can not even get a national ban on plastic shopping bags, with all Labour states...

Even in China, I have never seen ( not to say that it doesnt exist, would like to see it if it does ) any script or footage of Rudd telling the Chinese about Tibet / human rights... did he just meekly mutter the word "Tibet" once into his tea cup accross the table from the Chinese, and then walk out to an Australian press conference announcing proudly that he had given it to the Chinese on human rights issues...

 

[nioka]

Rudd can not even get a national ban on plastic shopping bags, with all Labour states...
.

Who wants a ban on plastic bags anyway. What will you do without them. I can't get enough. They are recycled in the garden, in the kitchen and in my workshop. They hold vegies in the fridge, line bins, protect new plants, kill fruit fly in fallen fruit, protect my fishing gear and lots of other uses.
A ban on cars with v8 engines would do more for the enviroment than a ban on plastic bags.

 

[doogie_goes_off]

Finally someone sees sense, plastic is not in itself bad, some of the users of plastic are not educated in the appropriate disposal of plastic. Get out ther and educate people, f%^k banning everything for the sake of it.

 

[doogie_goes_off]

What about limiting the number of kilometres allowed to be claimed for business travel in vehicles with an engine capacity of say >2 litres. We should stop providing money to people with big cars. This should promote less fuel consumption. Obviously there would need to be exceptions for truck owner businesses.

Wake up KRUDD, forget the summit, come and listen to our forum!

 

[Agentm]

i know a member of the 2020 summit, and he was very impressed with the turnout, and the quality and the balance there. The opinions of women in this forum whom were strongly represented in numbers was also something that stood out.

its always easy to criticise the forum,but for those who took the time out and contributed it was well worth it. the members all had access to a website ,they discussed many isses for a long time before the forum commenced, so it wasnt a case of going in cold, they all had ideas they put forward and thrashed out hours of debate before the actual summit commenced.

imho it will have a positive impact for years to come.

 

[Buddy]

Hey Noik and doog,
Yep, maybe it would be better to ban people who dispose of plastic bags without regard.
But very interesting to note that the new government (if thats what you call this rabble) cannot even get a consensus on such a minor issue (in the scheme of things).

And doogie, what a smart idea. This forum has far more to offer, generally, than the 2020 summit.

Which reminds me; Mr "2020", when you chose your nic, did you know something that the rest of us didn't? I guess you did, hence the "hindsight".