How does that solve anything...
If we are that worried about a lack of kids, why don't we just convert everyone to catholicism? Problem solved.
Paid Maternity leave like other properly managed Countries seems to me the best route.
Lol!Not for me thank's, I'd rather be a....................Protestant
And paternity leave! Don't forget us dads...it's only fair when everyone is demanding equality.
Some pretty harsh opinions floating about in this thread
Paid Maternity leave like other properly managed Countries seems to me the best route.
Hello Whiskers,
What action do you think Australia pty ltd should take to solve this huge issue ?
I haven't seen the item being discussed but get the general idea.
As far as needing to keep the population going, is it really likely that these genes are going to contribute much to our society? More likely to be a further drain on the welfare bill.
And just wait until the $10,000 baby bonus is introduced for the third child!!!
Garpal, I can't argue with this, can I! I'll resist making any comment on the likely quality of her, umm, suitors, given the apparently somewhat indiscriminate sharing of her affections.Dear Julia,
I haven't seen the item being discussed either, but this lady is quite astute with her genes, maximising their potential by sharing them with 11 others.
Studies have shown that up to 25 to 30% of 'fathers" at antenatal clinics, are in fact unrelated to the foetus.
Her offspring may surprise you as she has spread her bets, rather like spreading ones portfolio in different sectors.
Garpal
This is a realistic observation. I was listening to an ABC programme recently about IVF and the increasing age at which women are choosing to become (or try to become) pregnant. The researchers suggested, that because they have often left it too late, they are more and more using IVF and as a result the progeny produced will reproduce their own lack of fertility and so perpetuate the problem.Fertility rates seems to be dropping.
In the years ahead we may find that it will become more difficult for people to have children.
The researchers suggested, that because they have often left it too late, they are more and more using IVF and as a result the progeny produced will reproduce their own lack of fertility and so perpetuate the problem
Truly, I have asked so many of these young women what they plan to do with the coming baby bonus, and the most common response: "new clothes for everyone, new TV, new phones for the kids, take the whole family to Surfers Paradise for a couple of weeks, etc." If they are asked if they have considered perhaps paying off the credit card or saving some of it for the coming baby's needs, there is just a blank look.
So forgive me for my cynicism about the baby bonus!
This is a realistic observation. I was listening to an ABC programme recently about IVF and the increasing age at which women are choosing to become (or try to become) pregnant. The researchers suggested, that because they have often left it too late, they are more and more using IVF and as a result the progeny produced will reproduce their own lack of fertility and so perpetuate the problem.
Hi Numbercruncher
I guess I have a bit of a personal gripe on this issue. A few years ago I was referred some people by the then CES for a farm labouring job. I gave the job to one fellow, but a couple of days later he rings me up to say he can't take the job. He had a wife and swag of kids and would be loosing money if he went to work. Although things are a bit different now, people still rort the welfare system too much.
If I can make an analogy more fitting to the 'Humanans are Animals' thread, humans are just a sophisticated animal. Many, especially native animals, will only breed when the enviornmental and seasonal conditions are right, e.g. they often won't breed in drought.
I guess the solution is largely in your name sake. Since we are a sophisticated animal, crunch the numbers to create a financial drought to discourage these people from multipling.:
If you really want to incent the 'right' people to have kids you need to incent them with what they value most, time!
The only thing I've heard suggested which seems to appeal to women who don't want to sacrifice their careers before having a baby is extended maternity leave.Do you have any ideas what would motivate career women to have children earlier? Would a much more substantial tax break, along the lines mentioned in an earlier post, that would continue until 16 yo, as opposed to a one off bonus do the job? Is their desire to work longer before having children, about financial security or do they just want more of a life before having a family?
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