The ScoMo Government

[Tisme]

Actually he voluntarily stepped aside as I understand it.

Not what I have heard ... a dirt file circulating.

If the LNP go down the affirmative discrimination route, it will have acceded to beige mob mentality and socialist doctrine.... it will become more indistinguishable from those political force majeures who want us to be servile to parliament rather than parliament being answerable to the us (especially those of us who actually have some individual nous).

 

[SirRumpole]

Not what I have heard ... a dirt file circulating.

If the LNP go down the affirmative discrimination route, it will have acceded to beige mob mentality and socialist doctrine.... it will become more indistinguishable from those political force majeures who want us to be servile to parliament rather than parliament being answerable to the us (especially those of us who actually have some individual nous).

Yeah I agree, but it's tough on capable women who get the nod, they are always going to be attacked as being part of a quota devoid of merit.

There are some women in the Libs who should not have got the nod in the first place. Kelly O'Dwyer, Sophie Mirabelle and Michelia Cash are some that come to mind.

And that Downer person has just got preselection, another waste of space.

 

[Tisme]

Yeah I agree, but it's tough on capable women who get the nod, they are always going to be attacked as being part of a quota devoid of merit.

There are some women in the Libs who should not have got the nod in the first place. Kelly O'Dwyer, Sophie Mirabelle and Michelia Cash are some that come to mind.

And that Downer person has just got preselection, another waste of space.

I hear what you are saying, but in truth how many women have you and I attacked as quota dolls over the last whatever years we have agreed to disagree? Sure I think Wong and Pliberabcxyz are poison, sure those biaches you mentioned are lame, but we attack on the basis they prove by their actions they are not fit, same rulz we apply to the men.

 

[SirRumpole]

I hear what you are saying, but in truth how many women have you and I attacked as quota dolls over the last whatever years we have agreed to disagree? Sure I think Wong and Pliberabcxyz are poison, sure those biaches you mentioned are lame, but we attack on the basis they prove by their actions they are not fit, same rulz we apply to the men.

I think we are both saying that there should not be quotas for women ?

That's certainly what I think, otherwise it's going to be followed by quotas for LGBxyz's, Muslims and who knows what else.

 

[Darc Knight]

Morrison stated he's a "merit Man" not a "quota Man" on Alan Jones this morning.
I like the idea of Shorten as Opposition Leader. It hopefully keeps our Politics in the Centre.

 

[PZ99]

I'll take merit over quota anytime. Quotas amount to discrimination.

 

[IFocus]

Hmmm are you blokes all saying that the Liberal male MP's are all super stars and only got in on merit?

 

[Tisme]

Hmmm are you blokes all saying that the Liberal male MP's are all super stars and only got in on merit?

Well now they are getting on quota too, aren't they? You know fill the spots not allocated to women, religious zealots, etc. That'll make sure we get the best team.

 

[PZ99]

Hmmm are you blokes all saying that the Liberal male MP's are all super stars and only got in on merit?

That's an anomaly that will be politically corrected by the democratic process sometime over the remainder of this Govt's gestation period of.... around 9 months.

At the moment it's merely a fetal attraction... ( thankyouverymuch.... )

 

[sptrawler]

The Media are trying to whip up a frenzy against Morrison IMO:

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/fed...ng-of-dutton-controversy-20180912-p5039g.html

Apparently they say Dutton has missused Parliamentary privlidge, WOW, I can remember when a certain person with red hair was cheered for that.

Also the Guardian has jumped on the band wagon, apparently Morrison said the drought will get rid of the bottom 10% of farms, that probably shouldn't be there.

https://www.theguardian.com/austral...live?page=with:block-5b988fa6e4b0fa31b62141e1

I don't know about over East, but here in the West a lot of marginal farms have been reclaimed, and salt degradation in the mid West is atrocious.

http://www.abc.net.au/science/slab/salinity/

Untill they can get water reliably to these areas, maybe they shouldn't be farmed, the water from the North plan is probably the answer.

Meanwhile the media start the Raptor chase, after another P.M, cheap journalism IMO. I hope someone takes them to task, us plebs, just have to watch in awe.

 

[SirRumpole]

Bullied to back down on bullying claims ?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-09-12/liberal-party-women-back-down-on-bullying-claims/10238214

 

[sptrawler]

Bullied to back down on bullying claims ?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-09-12/liberal-party-women-back-down-on-bullying-claims/10238214

I don't know about you, but I have found bullies have been around as far back as I can remember, is this going to change because people don't like it?
I doubt it, in a competitive World forcing opinion is part of it, if everyone tried to form a committee to resolve issues nothing will get done. Facing off and arguing your position, is part of finding the neutral ground, finding the bottom line the common denominator.
Maybe a few people in politics, should look for another career, no one has ever said it for the thin skinned, or faint hearted.

 

[Smurf1976]

Facing off and arguing your position, is part of finding the neutral ground, finding the bottom line the common denominator.

A determined bully has no interest in arguing their position.

They’ll be going ahead regardless of whether or not anyone else is convinced so any form of discussion is pointless in practice.

 

[sptrawler]

A determined bully has no interest in arguing their position.

They’ll be going ahead regardless of whether or not anyone else is convinced so any form of discussion is pointless in practice.

A determined bully, is soon toppled, if they are pursuing an invalid argument.
That is one thing I have found the 'new generation' better at, if they don't like what they are hearing, they soon let you know.
The 'old days' of shutting up and getting on with it, are well and truly gone.

 

[PZ99]

Parliament house should have a chamber set aside for a mud pit, where you can really let it rip

 

[SirRumpole]

Parliament house should have a chamber set aside for a mud pit, where you can really let it rip

Isn't that called Question Time ?

 

[PZ99]

Isn't that called Question Time ?

No that's where they ring the bells. LOL

 

[Logique]

Malcolm Turnbull is reported to be phoning Lib MPs from New York, undermining Peter Dutton.

As for Julia Banks, a Turnbull supporter, her marginal Melbourne metro seat of Chisholm is gone anyway, on current national 2pp polling. The going get's a bit rough, and Julia Banks bravely retreats. What a great advertisement for more women in parliament.

The Libs are better off without these two.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/dar...s-for-victoria-s-liberal-20180827-p5003a.html
...The polling shows the Liberal seats of Corangamite, Casey, La Trobe, Dunkley and Chisholm all poised to fall at the next election, which looks likely to be held in May 2019.
How the seats could swing
Gone! ..Chisholm - Julia Banks (Turnbull) 3.4 ..

 

[SirRumpole]

The Libs are better off without these two.

And a lot more after the election.

 

[Knobby22]

Malcolm Turnbull is reported to be phoning Lib MPs from New York, undermining Peter Dutton.

As for Julia Banks, a Turnbull supporter, her marginal Melbourne metro seat of Chisholm is gone anyway, on current national 2pp polling. The going get's a bit rough, and Julia Banks bravely retreats. What a great advertisement for more women in parliament.

The Libs are better off without these two.

As a Melburnian and someone who voted Liberal the last two elections but no more, I fully understand it.
Victoria has been ignored, we haven't been getting our share of infrastructure money despite growing the fastest of any area of Australia, the party is treating Victorian members mostly badly and now the bullying episode. parts of the party wants to go to the right and join up with the Pauline crowd who unlike in Queensland deeply unpopular here. The average Melbournian thought Turnbull was OK and Tony is a a embittered lying fool.

We used to be the heartland of the Liberal Party but they seem to turning away from Menzian ideals into USA Republicans and Hansonites. Our Victorian president can't get enough crazy right wingers to fill the seats here so he is recruiting the Mormans. Honestly I am not surprised.

The Libs could have won this election but they got rid of their best asset and some let Murdoch control their agenda. Turnbull is hated by Murdoch as he is the first Prime Minister in living memory not to go to America and sit at Murdoch's feet. I wonder if ScoMo will? Abbott, Rudd and Gillard did.

Don't forget Julia Banks won that seat, it was Labors the previous election despite a much stronger showing. Definitely lost now. Probably will be replaced with another muppet.