Union Corruption

[dutchie]

Read this pdf file for a financial synopsis of the AWU scandal.

http://michaelsmithnews.typepad.com/files/anatomy-of-a-financial-swindle.pdf

 

[dutchie]

Also a post from hillbilly33 on the Michael Smith site.



http://www.michaelsmithnews.com/201...election-fund-commenced-in-december-1994.html
I make no apologies for continually stressing this pivotal point.
Julia Gillard chose to enter an intimate and ongoing relationship with Bruce Wilson, a married man with two young sons, reprehensible enough on a moral basis and hardly a good reflection on her employers, the equity partners of Slater & Gordon.
But in the context of this whole fraud matter, her breaches of ethics and duty of care to her client, her employers and the wilful contravening of the Rules of Practice and her obligations under which she was granted her Practising Certificate, shows a person with serious character and/or psychological
flaws.
These actions show she had no respect for either her profession, her fellow practitioners, her clients, her employers or the general public in regard to their expectations of the behaviour of someone in a supposedly honourable calling!
That she deliberately kept those matters secret from all those people for so many years show she had no scruples at all, either morally or professionally.
That in the face of all the evidence to the contrary, and not a shred of evidence she can put forward in her defence, to still maintain she acted ethically and did nothing wrong, suggests she is either completely delusional with severe psychological problems or just a born liar who has never known the meaning of truth.
The real tragedy for her and Australia is that so many people who should have known better, have not only encouraged her delusions but actually praised her for continuing to expound them, and the bullying, remorseless manner she uses to do so.
This site shows that many have not assisted in this and are appalled at the fall in standards in so many areas.
Are those in the truly pathetic largely sycophantic Canberra Press Gallery, ABC, Mainstream Media, all journalistic pursuits, Academia, Legal endeavours, Unions, Law Schools, Universities, Professional Associations etc., etc. so ideologically bound that they have become deliberately blind to the endemic and obvious corruption rife within Australia today?
This is far beyond politics, and we as a people face one of the most critical decisions this nation has ever faced as to the kind of future we want our children and grandchildren to inherit.
Do we, like Julia Gillard did, choose the dark side which made subsequent breaches easy for her, or do we say enough is enough. It stops here and now and we start the long road back to truth and integrity!

Posted by: hillbilly33 | Tuesday, 16 October 2012 at 01:26 PM

 

[CanOz]

Nice boyz

Gorgon project abuse: CFMEU official threatens workers

 

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Nice boyz

Gorgon project abuse: CFMEU official threatens workers

LOL - what do you expect?
CMFEU workers rarely take elocution lessons at Mrs Grundy's Finishing School for Catholic Girls. :

 

[qldfrog]

sure, but I understand it is one thing to be bullied on the workplace, but in that case, I assume these guys are on camp so 24/7 pressure until your plane land back in Perth..
There is a role for unions, why are unions the equivalent of bikie clubs here is Oz ; something i do not understand.
The convict psyche? SirRumpole, any idea?

 

[SirRumpole]

sure, but I understand it is one thing to be bullied on the workplace, but in that case, I assume these guys are on camp so 24/7 pressure until your plane land back in Perth..
There is a role for unions, why are unions the equivalent of bikie clubs here is Oz ; something i do not understand.
The convict psyche? SirRumpole, any idea?

I'm not a great union man, but there are some unions that are militant and power hungry, others that are corrupt, and others that have a genuine interest in the welfare of their members, and you can't tar them all with the same brush.

I mean , we could call the NSW Bar Association and the A.M.A. unions. They may not like the word, but somehow they seem to get on better with Conservative governments that the Builder's Labourers or the CFMEU.

 

[luutzu]

I'm not a great union man, but there are some unions that are militant and power hungry, others that are corrupt, and others that have a genuine interest in the welfare of their members, and you can't tar them all with the same brush.

I mean , we could call the NSW Bar Association and the A.M.A. unions. They may not like the word, but somehow they seem to get on better with Conservative governments that the Builder's Labourers or the CFMEU.

Whether a union is good or bad depends on whose interests it serves.

If it's Bankers Assc., or Business councils and the like... those are good unions getting together to advise gov't on how best to grow the economy and create jobs and growth and jobs and innovation.

If it's workers' unions... well we all know it's management that does the work and unions are just there to stop innovation and destroy jobs and slow growth.

Strange that when CEO or management screws up or just plain corrupt, it's just a bad CEO; When union reps. are corrupt or bad, all unions are bad and should be banned.

 

[Tisme]

Whether a union is good or bad depends on whose interests it serves.

If it's Bankers Assc., or Business councils and the like... those are good unions getting together to advise gov't on how best to grow the economy and create jobs and growth and jobs and innovation.

If it's workers' unions... well we all know it's management that does the work and unions are just there to stop innovation and destroy jobs and slow growth.

Strange that when CEO or management screws up or just plain corrupt, it's just a bad CEO; When union reps. are corrupt or bad, all unions are bad and should be banned.

Churches and Boy Scouts are natural attractants to Pedophiles;
Theatre, Stage and TV are natural attractants to Homosexuals and Jews;
Public Service sends out pheromones to entice the less inventive and ordered amongst us;
Union leadership roles attract those with a score to settle with blood sucking leeches;
Party politicians are arrogant self serving 4rse7oles who join a political union that best makes a path to the gravy train.

All of them form a union of similar interests of some sort

 

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Churches and Boy Scouts are natural attractants to Pedophiles;
Theatre, Stage and TV are natural attractants to Homosexuals and Jews;
Public Service sends out pheromones to entice the less inventive and ordered amongst us;
Union leadership roles attract those with a score to settle with blood sucking leeches;
Party politicians are arrogant self serving 4rse7oles who join a political union that best makes a path to the gravy train.

All of them form a union of similar interests of some sort

"Bless you, Son, for you made me smile."
... and there is a lot of truth in what you wrote.

And Rumpy is also correct:

you can't tar them all with the same brush.

 

[Smurf1976]

I'm not a great union man, but there are some unions that are militant and power hungry, others that are corrupt, and others that have a genuine interest in the welfare of their members, and you can't tar them all with the same brush.

Very true and it also varies within the same union depending on who is running it at the time.

Best = people who have actually done the jobs the union's members do and who have no political aspirations beyond running a union.

Worst = those who haven't a clue what the members actually do at work and are only in it to advance their own interests with politics the end goal.

I've seen both types running the same union within a few years. Made a massive difference to the effectiveness and reasonableness of it. The former just want an outcome whereas the latter want action that makes the news even if it's not in the best interests of the members.

Funniest union-related thing I've ever seen (not where I work now) was management realising how badly they'd messed up and then asking, of all people, a union if they had any solutions to the rather serious dilemma being faced. The union promptly contacted the members and a solution was put forward to management the same day.

I think the management were more than a bit surprised that a workable solution was put forward that didn't even cost the business any significant money beyond covering the direct expenses of implementing it and even that was pretty trivial. No pay rises, no strikes, no nonsense, just a workable solution that could be (and was) immediately implemented.

There's good and bad with unions as with anything.

 

[SirRumpole]

Funniest union-related thing I've ever seen (not where I work now) was management realising how badly they'd messed up and then asking, of all people, a union if they had any solutions to the rather serious dilemma being faced. The union promptly contacted the members and a solution was put forward to management the same day.

One day management and staff will realise that they are all on the same side when it comes to the success of an organisation and they need to communicate more with each other and not just assume the traditional roles of master and slave.

A start would be to limit the discrepancy between the lowest paid worker and the highest paid paid executive, to say 10 times. If the execs want higher pay then they have to make sure that their employees can earn more, and that means increasing sales and reducing waste.

I remember the old class wars in the years up to the Hawke government. Hawke brought management and unions together and set the stage for a more inclusive economy. That seems to have slipped a bit. Greed on both sides has taken over.

 

[sptrawler]

Very true and it also varies within the same union depending on who is running it at the time.

Best = people who have actually done the jobs the union's members do and who have no political aspirations beyond running a union.

Worst = those who haven't a clue what the members actually do at work and are only in it to advance their own interests with politics the end goal.

Sums it up perfectly.

 

[CanOz]

One day management and staff will realise that they are all on the same side when it comes to the success of an organisation and they need to communicate more with each other and not just assume the traditional roles of master and Skave.

LOL......obviously a little out of touch with the rest of the world....

 

[luutzu]

Churches and Boy Scouts are natural attractants to Pedophiles;
Theatre, Stage and TV are natural attractants to Homosexuals and Jews;
Public Service sends out pheromones to entice the less inventive and ordered amongst us;
Union leadership roles attract those with a score to settle with blood sucking leeches;
Party politicians are arrogant self serving 4rse7oles who join a political union that best makes a path to the gravy train.

All of them form a union of similar interests of some sort

A couple of those unions managed to convinced the rest that whatever it is they do, they do it for the national interest; do it to serve the masses. And the masses said, dam straight.

 

[Tisme]

A couple of those unions managed to convinced the rest that whatever it is they do, they do it for the national interest; do it to serve the masses. And the masses said, dam straight.

Roosters doing what roosters do in the hen house....some just parade themselves as better because they have bigger tail feathers and redder combs. Now and again some hens think they are equal to the task of the naturally apoplectic roosters ...FAIL

 

[luutzu]

Roosters doing what roosters do in the hen house....some just parade themselves as better because they have bigger tail feathers and redder combs. Now and again some hens think they are equal to the task of the naturally apoplectic roosters ...FAIL

That just fly over me McGee.

It's both my youth, inexperience, and English as a Second Language.

 

[sptrawler]

Roosters doing what roosters do in the hen house....some just parade themselves as better because they have bigger tail feathers and redder combs. Now and again some hens think they are equal to the task of the naturally apoplectic roosters ...FAIL

Ah, now I know what Julia Gillard was talking about, very misogynist.

Highlights it to a tee.

 

[luutzu]

Ah, now I know what Julia Gillard was talking about, very misogynist.

Highlights it to a tee.

ah see...

That was good insulting. Gotta give him that.

 

[qldfrog]

There's good and bad with unions as with anything.

I do not deny this you need counter power and I saw great cooperation for the better of both employees and company in Germany, but what i see here on TV, marches in Brisbane, etc is not that "intelligent" and is based on us vs them.
But absolutely right: you do not have TV headlines and new labour leaders born from cooperative discussions.Maybe time this labour/union link get severed for the better of all

 

[CanOz]

I do not deny this you need counter power and I saw great cooperation for the better of both employees and company in Germany, but what i see here on TV, marches in Brisbane, etc is not that "intelligent" and is based on us vs them.

That's astraya for ya! Honestly I've not seen a country with more us vs. them attitude than Australia. Must be the eureka rebellion in the blood