Pauline Hanson: Her Resurrection

[qldfrog]

We don't really import unskilled labour. Most of Australia's migration is highly skilled. The Brexiters, who could hardly be considered a pro-immigration crowd, want "an Australian style points based migration system". Even in the US the more moderate tea partiers want the system Australia has (I was actually surprised they'd heard of it). I'm not all that in favour of unskilled migration. The employment outcomes are pretty terrible. It's not like in the 1960s and 1970s when unskilled labour could land at Mascot on a Sunday and have a factory job on Monday morning.

This argument only applies to migration as such, with people applying , checked, filtered and selected ( I came that way) with no access to centerlink benefits for a while etc...I doubt most people link this type of migration to islam, the ones who cause or will cause problem are "refugees"/humanitarian inflows and the clerics who come with/for them.No job hope ever, welfare drain and nothing to do but get marginalised and turn into bombers or crims....
not that the cycle was new, we have had our own as well, and we know the results from the start..so indeed why?

 

[luutzu]

The race to the bottom has been going on for years.

Cheap labour, cheap materials, lower standards, the least possible training, the mess that is now called the Vocational Education and Training sector, run by shonky businesses offering diplomas to whoever can pay for others to sit their exams etc etc.

People have to realise that cheap isn't better, there is more to customer satisfaction than price.

Guess who's promoting and causing that race?

As American historian Howard Zinn observes, the political leadership has never ever shared the same interests or serve the people as they're made out to be.

We tend to think that they are "stupid" and can't see how wrong their policies are. Not really.

 

[explod]

I had ignored this thread till I noticed this morning what an airing it is getting. Well done on that noco.

But alas the content a waste as I had presumed.

Since 9/11 two people have died on australian soil due to islamic terrorism.

In that time 25,000 have committedsuicide;

1,000 killed due to domestic violence;

3,000 murdered by fellow australians;

10,000 in car accidents, and

200 by falling off chairs.

Anyhow, enjoy fairyland.

 

[noco]

If an uneducated, non-English speaking refugee could qualify for a job but a home-grown, English speaking Australian could not... I think the economic argument has long been lost.

We serious about a refugee stepping off the boat and heading into some cushy job any Australian would love to get but couldn't because businesses love refugees.

Refugees are most likely to be digging ditches, demolishing asbestos fibro houses...

Let's aim higher than a race to the bottom.

"DIGGING DITCHES" ??????

Only those living before the 1950's would know what a pick and shovel was.

This the 21st century in case you have forgotten where we use back hoes and excavators.

 

[noco]

I had ignored this thread till I noticed this morning what an airing it is getting. Well done on that noco.

But alas the content a waste as I had presumed.

Since 9/11 two people have died on australian soil due to islamic terrorism.

In that time 25,000 have committedsuicide;

1,000 killed due to domestic violence;

3,000 murdered by fellow australians;

10,000 in car accidents, and

200 by falling off chairs.

Anyhow, enjoy fairyland.

Was that last night's wet dream.....Go to bed with a problem and wake up with the solution in hand.

 

[luutzu]

"DIGGING DITCHES" ??????

Only those living before the 1950's would know what a pick and shovel was.

This the 21st century in case you have forgotten where we use back hoes and excavators.

Not all jobs make economic sense to hire excavators noco. A Kanga costs about $350/day to hire... an excavator with its operator costs around $600 half a day. So that, or $100 a day cash in hand.

 

[explod]

Was that last night's wet dream.....Go to bed with a problem and wake up with the solution in hand.

Only looked at the thread today. Not a very nice comment ole Pal, considering I had my prostate removed 9 years back and one upshot, my missus deserting me a few years back

After 9/11 the seppos, instead of going after the percieved problem, instead went for Saddam who was backdooring oil to the north away from the west. I was personally involved in the protests against that way in fact.

Anyhow this war primarily destabilised the status quo and eventually it led to displaced people trying to get out and already radical people becoming even more radical.

So our dear Pauline (and perhaps yourself noco) needs to get into the real causes:

our capitalist society and its continued squeezing of the less well off.

 

[noco]

Not all jobs make economic sense to hire excavators noco. A Kanga costs about $350/day to hire... an excavator with its operator costs around $600 half a day. So that, or $100 a day cash in hand.

You have no idea of costs...you are only guessing....A pick and shovel just $10 each.

 

[noco]

Only looked at the thread today. Not a very nice comment ole Pal, considering I had my prostate removed 9 years back and one upshot, my missus deserting me a few years back

After 9/11 the seppos, instead of going after the percieved problem, instead went for Saddam who was backdooring oil to the north away from the west. I was personally involved in the protests against that way in fact.

Anyhow this war primarily destabilised the status quo and eventually it led to displaced people trying to get out and already radical people becoming even more radical.

So our dear Pauline (and perhaps yourself noco) needs to get into the real causes:

our capitalist society and its continued squeezing of the less well off.

Sorry to learn of your of your personal problems over the past 9 years.

So what are you suggesting??.....we would all be better off under a Labor socialist regime.....Central control.....Socialism (communism ) has been a proven failure my friend...Do some research into the Fabian Society failures...Start with the late Gough Whitlam, then Julia Gillard , Jenny Macklin and Chris Bowen.

So where did you get those stats on deaths?

We may have had only 2 deaths due to terrorism and it could have been a lot more if it were not for the vigilance of our AFP who have kept a close eye on these nuisance Muslim radicals.

What about the 80 + Aussies murdered in the Bali bombing?...Lest we forget.

 

[explod]

Sorry to learn of your of your personal problems over the past 9 years.

So what are you suggesting??.....we would all be better off under a Labor socialist regime.....Central control.....Socialism (communism ) has been a proven failure my friend...Do some research into the Fabian Society failures...Start with the late Gough Whitlam, then Julia Gillard , Jenny Macklin and Chris Bowen.

So where did you get those stats on deaths?

Not suggesting who should run the show. Politicians only follow the money or who keeps them in seats.

I am suggesting that we should think of the actual value of real issues. Content ole Pal.

Like we're going to spend 50 billion on subs but state schools in poorer areas are falling apart and kids being taught in corridors. Cost to fix less than .01% of the subs, which we probably wont need when they do eventually sail anyway.

Some common sense please.

Have never been to Bali and would not if you paid me. Bali is very remote to our culture but if the dividers like Hansen prevail then I fear we will start heading down that track. Its like the war celebrating, Anzac etc., takes the minds away from real issues. Why not more on how to stop war, but no, that's how the seppos make thier money. Guns and oil.

 

[SirRumpole]

Socialism (communism ) has been a proven failure my friend...Do some research into the Fabian Society failures...Start with the late Gough Whitlam, then Julia Gillard , Jenny Macklin and Chris Bowen.

AND THE LIBERALS WILL PRIVATISE MEDICARE !!!

 

[luutzu]

You have no idea of costs...you are only guessing....A pick and shovel just $10 each.

When I built my little tin shed, I did look into hiring a Kanga noco. Couldn't afford it. So hired a guy and we both got to work digging ditches for plumbing and then footing for the slab.

When my dad was building his and later when an 18m ditch was needed for stormwater, he was telling us to dig it because it's cheaper than hiring an excavator guy. Luckily I saw a plumber with an excavator working a few blocks away - I negotiated and for $300 he'd stopped by early in the morning to dig one straight line. I mean, it's all clay and you'd need a pick stick to carve it so money well spent... but yea, when you got no money, it's hand to shovel.

 

[dutchie]

AND THE LIBERALS WILL PRIVATISE MEDICARE !!!

Good idea since it's such a profit making machine!!

 

[noco]

Not suggesting who should run the show. Politicians only follow the money or who keeps them in seats.

I am suggesting that we should think of the actual value of real issues. Content ole Pal.

Like we're going to spend 50 billion on subs but state schools in poorer areas are falling apart and kids being taught in corridors. Cost to fix less than .01% of the subs, which we probably wont need when they do eventually sail anyway.

Some common sense please.

Have never been to Bali and would not if you paid me. Bali is very remote to our culture but if the dividers like Hansen prevail then I fear we will start heading down that track. Its like the war celebrating, Anzac etc., takes the minds away from real issues. Why not more on how to stop war, but no, that's how the seppos make thier money. Guns and oil.

Which state do you live in?

 

[noco]

AND THE LIBERALS WILL PRIVATISE MEDICARE !!!

I am sure you will eat those words come 2019 unfortunately I may not be around long enough to enjoy watching you.

Now honestly Rumpy who would buy a business that forks out $24 billion and rakes in $10 billion..

Have you ever been in business.?

 

[SirRumpole]

I am sure you will eat those words come 2019 unfortunately I may not be around long enough to enjoy watching you.

Now honestly Rumpy who would buy a business that forks out $24 billion and rakes in $10 billion..

Have you ever been in business.?

You don't think that a monopolistic essential service is not an attractive business ?

Once it's sold the cost of health care will shoot through the roof and people either have to pay up or die.

That's what I call a captive market.

 

[noco]

You don't think that a monopolistic essential service is not an attractive business ?

Once it's sold the cost of health care will shoot through the roof and people either have to pay up or die.

That's what I call a captive market.

Settle down Rumpy...The election is over and Shortens lie has stopped.

You also seem to be overlooking the fact that even if Turnbull tried, it would never get through the senate.

It is time to cleanse your brain washed head.

 

[qldfrog]

AND THE LIBERALS WILL PRIVATISE MEDICARE !!!

I really hope you did that as a jest I mean, seriously? And Shorten would be a great PM next?
For the people counting the number of deaths in Oz caused by terrorism vs DV, suicide and others, have a trip in France and see how many are dead every year if you let the gate open, I am not EVEN talking about the terrorist, just everyday crime bashing, rapes linked to that religion interpretation, the fact that the life of a non muslim/women/any non male muslim is worth zip and the resulting killing be they cops, security guards or other gang members/public .let's talk about women's condition when living in area where nihab rules..And have a nice DV TV campaign after seriously...
And how many attacks have been prevented here; we will never know, so it is the long term society problem of the western world;
The economic corruption, tax avoidance of corporations , even wars in ME are "short term" issues in the scale of history but the collapse of the west and the return to dark ages with muslim obscurantism is something of a much higher importance IMHO.
It is high time we see some reactions in the West as you can not win a war without fighting (war here does not mean M16 and bombers BTW but do i need to say it?)

 

[SirRumpole]

I really hope you did that as a jest I mean, seriously? An Shorten would be a great PM next?

Some people continually cr@p on about Fabianism and communism without so much of a rebuke by most here, can't I have a bit of fun by sticking it up them ?

Fair go mon ami, life is for living !

 

[noco]

Some people continually cr@p on about Fabianism and communism without so much of a rebuke by most here, can't I have a bit of fun by sticking it up them ?

Fair go mon ami, life is for living !

No rebuke by most because they are starting to realize that Communism is NOT DEAD AND BURIED.

We are fighting two wars here ....Islam and Communism and I am beginning to think they are working hand in hand to bring down the Western World.