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drsmith said:
It would help if journalists such as the above reconciled that leaked Scale-the-Deployment-Program document with other information publically available to understand it in context.

Firstly, the leaked report doesn't cover the full FTTN rollout and secondly, the targets in that report do not match publically made rollout forecasts. They are more aggressive suggesting a contingency between the two for issues that may (and obviously do) arise.

As for how things are actually going with the brownfields fixed line rollout relative to the corporate plan from last year, the weekly rollout updates will be the figures to watch.

In that, 1,580k brownfields are forecast to be ready for service (RFS) by June 30 this year. That consists of 1080k FTTP and 500k FTTN. As at March 3, that sits at 1,263k and thus needs to progress at an average rate of ~19k per week over the remaining 17 weeks to June 30 to meet the target. The average over the past 5 weeks has been ~33k.

Note in the above that NBN now include FTTB as a subset of FTTN.
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The last two weeks brownfields RFS rollout figures may be starting to reflect some bite from the above Scale-the-Deployment-Program document.

The week to Mar 10 saw an additional 21,200 brownfields RFS and the week to Mar 17, 12,362.

http://www.nbnco.com.au/content/dam...ollout-metrics/nbn-rollout-metrics-170316.pdf

The next few weeks in particular will now be interesting to watch to see if the above establishes a trend. The brownfields FTTP/FTTN rollout needs to average 18,878 premises per week RFS over the remaining 15 weeks to June 30 to reach the above target.
 
The weekly rollout update to March 24 shows an uptick in brownfield premises passed and declared RFS.

A total of 27,878 additional lots/premises were passed/covered by the network during the week, of which 26,033 were in Brownfield and 1,561 were in Greenfield areas. Fixed wireless coverage increased by 284 premises During the week an additional 15,325 premises had services activated on the network, including 14,057 on fixed line services and 1,268 using satellite and fixed wireless technologies.
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http://www.nbnco.com.au/corporate-i...co/corporate-plan/weekly-progress-report.html

http://www.nbnco.com.au/content/dam...ollout-metrics/nbn-rollout-metrics-240316.pdf

This takes total brownfield to 1,322,861 compared to the 1,580,000 June 30 target.

257,139 brownfield now need to be passed over the remaining 14 weeks to June 30 at an average rate of 18,367 per week.
 
We're about to get the NBN rollout in my area. To those who've migrated to NBN, could I ask some dumb questions please?

-Does the chosen NBN plan include fixed line telephone rental?

-What happens with existing ADSL contracts, are they allowed as a $ credit on new NBN plans?

-Is the switch over to NBN instantaneous, i.e any internet connection down time?

-The cost of a base level 100GB NBN plan seems to be ~$75/mth..?

Grateful for any guidance on this.
 
https://delimiter.com.au/2016/04/04/new-leaked-docs-show-fttn-delays/

The second document is the NBN company’s regular ‘Ready for Service’ update, which the NBN company sends to retail ISPs so they know where their customers can buy NBN services, and when.
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The above is part of an article about another leak and FTTN rollout delays.

The Excel table in the above RFS service update from the end of Feb is interesting in that it allows more detailed information on internal targets relative to publically published rollout targets. It confirms two things.

Firstly, the buffer between internally published and publically published targets in last year's corporate as noted in this thread and missed in media commentary.

Secondly, the magnitude of that buffer to June 30 as at the end of Feb. Despite the FTTN delays relative to internal targets, an addition of the columns reveals approximately 480k brownfield FTTP/FTTN premises are scheduled to be RFS over the 4 months from March to June. This compares to a requirement of approximately 320k over the same period to satisfy the June 30 2016 1580k FTTP/FTTN brownfields target as outlined in last year's corporate plan.

That equates to a buffer of approximately 160k.
 
NBN was meant to give those of us in regional/remote areas an equal playing field with our city cousins.

What an absolute joke!

At an NBN road show back in 2007/08 (?) in Broken Hill, NSW it was divulged that the NBN wouldn't be rolled out here until 2016/17 but a Back Haul fibre optic cable needed to be layed ASAP. This cable connected B/Hill to Wentworth, NSW and Mildura, VIC approx. 300km away.

On my many working trips to W/worth I saw that blue cable being laid, it was layed quite quickly IMHO and thought that maybe, just maybe we would see high speed access a lot sooner. Throw in a change of govt. and lots of lobbying all leading to, how wrong can one be?

From the NBN Co site, rollout in B/Hill will start in H2 2017 and my guess it will be mid Dec next year. Am so over the hype, the b/s, the revamp, the rethinks, and the kicker, being delegated to second class citizen status that govts from both sides put us in. Then there will be the cost of having the service.

No doubt that said cable is also linked to the twin satellite dishes the NBN has a few kms out of town and that any current "NBN service" is for govt. or/and Big End of town use only.

Yeah so obviously, equal playing fields are different for the Retail Consumer and the location of where one lives that's for sure plus, to think we'd all get up to 100Mbps speeds both ways... :mad:

Turnbull's "Ideas Boom" must of had a brain fart on this one!
 
Telstra's recent 'free data day' provided some opportunity to see the result of increased traffic on mobile networks, indicating how they'd cope if everyone shifted to mobile as some people suggest will occur. And it was a nice piece of evidence to support the techies claims that mobile can't cope with a decent percentage of fixed-line data volumes.


The day resulted in Telstra users downloading 2848TB of data, which is about 3 times the usual volume.

It also resulted in numerous complaints from customers about unusably slow data due to congestion. Many customers couldn't even perform basic tasks like sending an iMessage or browsing Facebook because the network was too slow in populated areas.


Meanwhile, the fixed line network carries (on average) around 23000TB of data each day, which is increasing at the rate of 50% each year. By this time next year, average daily volume will be around 34000TB.

So the fastest 4G mobile network in Australia struggled with 1/7th of the current average daily fixed line usage.
 
NBNMyths said:
Telstra's recent 'free data day' provided some opportunity to see the result of increased traffic on mobile networks, indicating how they'd cope if everyone shifted to mobile as some people suggest will occur. And it was a nice piece of evidence to support the techies claims that mobile can't cope with a decent percentage of fixed-line data volumes.


The day resulted in Telstra users downloading 2848TB of data, which is about 3 times the usual volume.

It also resulted in numerous complaints from customers about unusably slow data due to congestion. Many customers couldn't even perform basic tasks like sending an iMessage or browsing Facebook because the network was too slow in populated areas.


Meanwhile, the fixed line network carries (on average) around 23000TB of data each day, which is increasing at the rate of 50% each year. By this time next year, average daily volume will be around 34000TB.

So the fastest 4G mobile network in Australia struggled with 1/7th of the current average daily fixed line usage.
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Amazing, thanks for the update. I'm quite happy i didn't go with a 4G option as some had mentioned to me...:rolleyes:
 
Logique said:
We're about to get the NBN rollout in my area. To those who've migrated to NBN, could I ask some dumb questions please?
-Does the chosen NBN plan include fixed line telephone rental?
-What happens with existing ADSL contracts, are they allowed as a $ credit on new NBN plans?
-Is the switch over to NBN instantaneous, i.e any internet connection down time?
-The cost of a base level 100GB NBN plan seems to be ~$75/mth..?
Grateful for any guidance on this.
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All subsequently answered by NBN Co, thanks all.

Feedback to me from 4G users, is that it's neither the fastest, most reliable nor most inexpensive alternative to fibre/copper broadband.
 
Logique said:
We're about to get the NBN rollout in my area. To those who've migrated to NBN, could I ask some dumb questions please?

-Does the chosen NBN plan include fixed line telephone rental?

-What happens with existing ADSL contracts, are they allowed as a $ credit on new NBN plans?

-Is the switch over to NBN instantaneous, i.e any internet connection down time?

-The cost of a base level 100GB NBN plan seems to be ~$75/mth..?

Grateful for any guidance on this.
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Fibre NBN or other NBN?

I live in a fibre area, some plans include line rental some don't, your DSL service will be turned off after your fibre install, 2 completely different systems, if you are changing provider there will be a service overlap with billing double bill for 1 month, yep base plan around $75 per month from the good providers and about $50 for the bad.

I originally stupidly decided to go with a bad provider and paid the price, 1 week after my install that i waited 3 weeks for, an installer for next door (unit block) killed my install by unplugging my cable at the street node, my bad provider (Exetel) told me it would take 17 days to fix as that was the first date available (that's why they're bad) i cancelled my contract and they took 6 weeks and 4 phone calls to refund my money.

iinet took just 2 days to install and then when i lost connection after 3 weeks with them they took 2 days to fix...that's why they're good and worth the extra money.
 
NBN WEBSITE ...

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IINET WEBSITE

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drsmith said:
https://delimiter.com.au/2016/04/04/new-leaked-docs-show-fttn-delays/



The above is part of an article about another leak and FTTN rollout delays.

The Excel table in the above RFS service update from the end of Feb is interesting in that it allows more detailed information on internal targets relative to publically published rollout targets. It confirms two things.

Firstly, the buffer between internally published and publically published targets in last year's corporate as noted in this thread and missed in media commentary.

Secondly, the magnitude of that buffer to June 30 as at the end of Feb. Despite the FTTN delays relative to internal targets, an addition of the columns reveals approximately 480k brownfield FTTP/FTTN premises are scheduled to be RFS over the 4 months from March to June. This compares to a requirement of approximately 320k over the same period to satisfy the June 30 2016 1580k FTTP/FTTN brownfields target as outlined in last year's corporate plan.

That equates to a buffer of approximately 160k.
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A total of 78,148 brownfields premises were passed and RFS over the 4 weeks from March 4 to March 31. 82,000 were scheduled to be passed over the month of March from the Excel spread sheet accessible from the link in the above post.

Brownfields RFS slowed significantly in the week to Apr 7 to 5,723. No street node FTTN was scheduled to be RFS over that week. A total of 83,300 is scheduled for April, 151,200 for May and 162,800 for June for a total 397,300 over the 3 months from April to June. The increase in May and June is due to the speed up in expected completions of street node FTTN rollouts.

A total of 1,347,173 brownfields premises were RFS as at Apr 7. To reach the target of 1,580,000 brownfields RFS by June 30, an additional 232,827 need to be RFS over 12 weeks at an average rate of 19,402 per week.

For the 3 months from April 1, the requirement is 238,500 resulting in a buffer of 158,800.
 
In the 5 weeks from the beginning of April to May 5, the brownfields rollout has passed RFS 83,300 against a schedule of 90,600 for that 5-week period. More importantly, the main FTTN rollout is ramping up as expected in the earlier leaked March RFS rollout plan.

The Skymuster satellite service is also now active taking that to over 400,000 available and the total rollout to 2,467,061, 164,939 short of the 2,632,000m June 30 target. Brownfields is now at 1,427,748, 152,252 short of the June 30 target.

http://www.nbnco.com.au/content/dam...ollout-metrics/nbn-rollout-metrics-050516.pdf

Both targets should be reached easily.

On costs, the March 31 quarterly offers the following comparison on average per premise for the various technologies (2016 Corporate Plan)-(March Q update).

FTTP greenfields: $2100-$2713.
FTTP brownfields: $4400-$4403.
FTTN: $2300-$2275.
Fixed wireless: $4900-$3479.

http://www.nbnco.com.au/content/dam/nbnco2/documents/nbn third quarter financial results 2016.pdf

http://www.nbnco.com.au/content/dam/nbnco2/documents/nbn-corporate-plan-2016.pdf
 
noco said:
No doubt the Labor Party will go all out to point the finger at who authorized the raids particularly during election time.
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Of course they will.

Looking for information that the public have a right to know.

This looks bad for the LNP.

What are they covering up ?
 
How come the NBN has to answer to the Comms Minister, but when it reports breach of "commercial in confidence" it an independent entity?

Royal Commission required?
 

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