Extremism - Australia next if we allow it!

[Bintang]

This guy has been deported from the Philippines for his extreme Islamic preaching and we allow him back in Australia to do the very same thing.

I say lock him up now and throw away the key.,,,we do not need this guy here.


http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...ves-in-melbourne/story-fnihslxi-1226998255175

Does anyone know how he became an Australian in the first place? Did he by any chance arrive on a boat - you know the type of boats I mean.

 

[noco]

Does anyone know how he became an Australian in the first place? Did he by any chance arrive on a boat - you know the type of boats I mean.

He is an Australian....born in Australia.


http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...ves-in-melbourne/story-fnihslxi-1226998255175

 

[Bintang]

Well that's weird and unfortunate cause he certainly doesn't deserve to have been born here.

 

[DB008]

Religion of Peace???

Shocking highlights in bold.


AFP issues warrants for Australian ISIL fighters Khaled Sharrouf and Mohamed Elomar

Federal police have issued arrest warrants for two Sydney men accused of fighting with terrorist groups in Iraq and Syria.

Khaled Sharrouf and Mohamed Elomar recently posted images from Iraq on Twitter, showing them posing with the heads of executed fighters, holding guns and standing over bloodied bodies.

In other online posts, they threatened to kill Australian soldiers and all non-Muslims.

http://www.smh.com.au/national/afp-issues-warrants-for-australian-isil-fighters-khaled-sharrouf-and-mohamed-elomar-20140729-zy8lg.html#ixzz39DfTpS25

*Edit*

Jihadi Khaled Sharrouf says he would have launched attack in Australia

Sydney jihadi wanted on terrorism offences has issued an extraordinary statement, threatening a terrorist attack on Australian soil and claiming he would have carried out one, had he not left for the battlefields in Syria and Iraq last year.

Khaled Sharrouf sent Fairfax Media his first lengthy and revealing diatribe from the frontline in Iraq only days after police issued a warrant for his arrest for suspected terrorist activity.

http://www.smh.com.au/world/jihadi-khaled-sharrouf-says-he-would-have-launched-attack-in-australia-20140731-zz5k1.html

 

[noco]

Religion of Peace???

Shocking highlights in bold.


AFP issues warrants for Australian ISIL fighters Khaled Sharrouf and Mohamed Elomar



http://www.smh.com.au/national/afp-issues-warrants-for-australian-isil-fighters-khaled-sharrouf-and-mohamed-elomar-20140729-zy8lg.html#ixzz39DfTpS25

*Edit*

And Gillard threw aside all warnings from the about home grown Jihadists.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...ays-former-judge/story-fn59niix-1227010727269

 

[noco]

Perhaps Australia could take some lessons from the Japanese.




These practices set a high standard for young people
* Japanese children clean their schools every day for a quarter of an hour with teachers.
This led to the emergence of a Japanese generation who is modest and keen on cleanliness.

* Any Japanese citizen who has a dog must carry special bags to pick up dog droppings.
Hygiene and their eagerness to address cleanliness is part of Japanese ethics.

* A hygiene worker in Japan is called "health engineer" and can command salary of USD 5000 to 8000 per month,
and a cleaner is subjected to written and oral tests!

* Japan does not have any natural resources, and they are exposed to hundreds of earthquakes a year,
but this has not prevented its becoming the second largest economy in the world.

* In just ten years Hiroshima returned to what it was economically vibrant before the fall of the atomic bomb.

* Japan prevents the use of mobile phones in trains, restaurants and indoors.

* For first to sixth primary year Japanese students must learn ethics in dealing with people.

* Even though one of the richest people in the world, the Japanese do not have servants.
The parents are responsible for the house and children.

* There is no examination from the first to the third primary level,
because the goal of education is to instill concepts and character building.

* If you go to a buffet restaurant in Japan you will notice people only eat as much as they need without any waste because food must not be wasted.

* The rate of delayed trains in Japan is about 7 seconds per year!!
The Japanese appreciate the value of time and are very punctual to minutes and seconds.

* Children in schools brush their teeth (sterile) and clean their teeth after a meal at school,
teaching them to maintain their health from an early age.

* Japanese students take half an hour to finish their meals to ensure proper digestion,
because these students are the future of Japan.

The Japanese focus on maintaining their own culture.

Therefore.

* No political leader or a prime minister from an Islamic nation has visited Japan not the Ayatollah of Iran,
the King of Saudi Arabia or even a Saudi Prince!

* Japan is a country keeping Islam at bay by putting strict restrictions on Islam and ALL Muslims.

1) Japan is the only nation that does not give citizenship to Muslims.
2) In Japan permanent residency is not given to Muslims.
3) There is a strong ban on the propagation of Islam in Japan ..
4) In the University of Japan, Arabic or any Islamic language is not taught.
5) One cannot import a 'Koran' published in the Arabic language.
6) According to data published by the Japanese government, it has given temporary residency to only 2 lakhs, Muslims, who must follow the Japanese Law of the Land. These Muslims should speak Japanese and carry their religious rituals in their homes.
7) Japan is the only country in the world that has a negligible number of embassies in Islamic countries.
8) Muslims residing in Japan are the employees of foreign companies.
9) Even today, visas are not granted to Muslim doctors, engineers or managers sent by foreign companies.
10) In the majority of companies it is stated in their regulations that no Muslims should apply for a job.
11) The Japanese government is of the opinion that Muslims are fundamentalist, and even in the era of globalization they are not willing to change their Muslim laws.
12) Muslims cannot even rent a house in Japan ...
13) If anyone comes to know that his neighbor is a Muslim then the whole neighborhood stays alert.
14) No one can start an Islamic cell or Arabic 'Madrasa' in Japan ..
15) There is no Sharia law in Japan ...
16) If a Japanese woman marries a Muslim, she is considered an outcast forever.
17) According to Mr. Kumiko Yagi, Professor of Arab/Islamic Studies at Tokyo University of Foreign Studies,
" There is a mind frame in Japan that Islam is a very narrow minded religion and one should stay away from it."

The Japanese might have lost the war, but they are in charge of their own country.
There are no bombs going off in crowded business centres,
"Honour Killings", nor killing of innocent children or anyone else.

Something to think about.

 

[SirRumpole]

Professor of Arab/Islamic Studies at Tokyo University of Foreign Studies,

Now that is what I call a plum posting.

Not much work to do there. How many classes does he give ?

 

[Bintang]

Perhaps Australia could take some lessons from the Japanese.
Something to think about.

Noco, very interesting. Can you provide a source for this information? I'm not being critical or doubting I just find it so interesting that I would like to read it at source.

How is it the Japanese are not targeted for this anti-muslim stance?

How is it that they can conduct business successfully in muslim countries such as Indonesia without being criticised for their anti-muslim national policies?

Why is it that a country like Australia. which (in my opinion) is far too liberal and tolerant of muslims, at times be branded as anti-muslim and racist?

 

[SirRumpole]

How is it the Japanese are not targeted for this anti-muslim stance?

Japan is not big on immigration from anywhere. They don't need more people , they are very densely packed as it is.

 

[bellenuit]

Why is it that a country like Australia. which (in my opinion) is far too liberal and tolerant of muslims, at times be branded as anti-muslim and racist?

The branding mainly comes from within rather than from our muslim neighbours who would be throwing stones from glass houses.

 

[Bintang]

The branding mainly comes from within rather than from our muslim neighbours who would be throwing stones from glass houses.

Fair point. At the height of the Pauline Hanson era while visiting Singapore I was personally confronted by someone who told me that Australia is a racist country. At the time I blamed the Australian media for giving PH more attention than she deserved.

 

[DB008]

Japan is not big on immigration from anywhere. They don't need more people , they are very densely packed as it is.

Japan also don't give out citizenship. Full stop.

 

[Bintang]

Japan also don't give out citizenship. Full stop.

I agree with Noco. We should learn from them.

 

[DB008]

I agree with Noco. We should learn from them.

I get those chain e-mails too. How much of it is correct and truthful?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Japan

Islam was thought to have first come to Japan in the early 1900s when Muslim Tatars were escaping Russian expansionism.[9] The Muslim community in Japan has a history of over 100 years, although some sources contest more than this amount.[9][10][11] In 1909 it was documented by historian Caeser E. Farah that Abdul-Rashid Ibrahim was the first Muslim who successfully converted the first ethnic Japanese, and in 1935 Kobe Mosque - Japan's first Islamic building - was constructed.[9][12] Some sources have stated that in 1982 the Muslims numbered 30,000 (half were natives).

[9] Some ethnic Japanese women during the economic boom of the 1980s converted when large swathes of immigrants from Asia came and integrated with local population.[13] The majority of estimates of the Muslim population have been put at around 100,000 in estimates.[9][14][15] Islam remains a minority religion in Japan, and there is no evidence as to whether Islam is growing or not. Conversion is more prominent among young ethnic Japanese married women, as documented by the Japan Times as early as the 1990s.[13] Furthermore in 2000 Keiko Sakurai had estimated the number of ethnic Japanese Muslims in Japan at 63,552, and around 70,000 - 100,000 foreign Muslims residing in the country.[10] However according to essayist Michael Penn states that 90% of Muslims are foreign and about 10% are ethnic, but the true figure is unknown and this is just another speculative estimate.

[14] In Japan the government does not take religion into account as part of the demographic concern under religious freedom. As Penn states, "The Japanese government does not keep any statistics on the number of Muslims in Japan. Neither foreign residents nor ethnic Japanese are never asked about their religion by official government agencies".[14]

BTW - It is too late here in Australia

 

[noco]

Noco, very interesting. Can you provide a source for this information? I'm not being critical or doubting I just find it so interesting that I would like to read it at source.

How is it the Japanese are not targeted for this anti-muslim stance?

How is it that they can conduct business successfully in muslim countries such as Indonesia without being criticised for their anti-muslim national policies?

Why is it that a country like Australia. which (in my opinion) is far too liberal and tolerant of muslims, at times be branded as anti-muslim and racist?

Mate, I tried to track it down without success...it was emailed to me from a friend who got from another friend and so on.

I did a google search and came up with this link which may be sufficient to quench your thirst for information.....there is plenty of info there......If I find any more, I will post it to you.


http://www.jewishpress.com/indepth/opinions/the-land-without-muslims/2013/05/19/0/

http://www.muslimpopulation.com/asia/Japan/Islam in Japan_aq.php

 

[Julia]

* Any Japanese citizen who has a dog must carry special bags to pick up dog droppings.

Um, the same applies here, noco.

Hygiene and their eagerness to address cleanliness is part of Japanese ethics.

The same will apply in any sensible country.

* Japan does not have any natural resources, and they are exposed to hundreds of earthquakes a year,
but this has not prevented its becoming the second largest economy in the world.

Hasn't stopped them experiencing massive deflation in recent years.

* Japan prevents the use of mobile phones in trains, restaurants and indoors.

Fantastic idea. One we should adopt here.

* Even though one of the richest people in the world, the Japanese do not have servants.
The parents are responsible for the house and children.

Hmm. I'd like to see the evidence for that statement.
Separately, what about the very considerable use of geishas for the entertainment of men, married men, that is.

* If you go to a buffet restaurant in Japan you will notice people only eat as much as they need without any waste because food must not be wasted.

Might explain the rare vision of an obese Japanese person.

This has all the hallmarks of a chain email, but for all that, there is much in it which is very believable.
The Japanese are very disciplined people, and if only half of what noco has put up is true, then good for them.
My tongue in cheek qualifiers are no real objection.

 

[noco]

Um, the same applies here, noco.

The same will apply in any sensible country.


Hasn't stopped them experiencing massive deflation in recent years.


Fantastic idea. One we should adopt here.


Hmm. I'd like to see the evidence for that statement.
Separately, what about the very considerable use of geishas for the entertainment of men, married men, that is.


Might explain the rare vision of an obese Japanese person.

This has all the hallmarks of a chain email, but for all that, there is much in it which is very believable.
The Japanese are very disciplined people, and if only half of what noco has put up is true, then good for them.
My tongue in cheek qualifiers are no real objection.

Julia , I agree with your comments on Japanese customs but the emphasis of my post was relevant to the acceptance or I should say non acceptance of Muslims.

 

[DB008]

Religion on Peace strikes - yet again - with an Australian twist.

A new low...

The photo that will shock the world: jihadist Khaled Sharrouf’s son, 7, holds severed head

THIS is a photo that will shock the world.



Sydney jihadist Khaled Sharrouf’s son ”” a child, 7, raised in the suburbs of Sydney ”” struggles with both arms to hold up the decapitated head of a slain Syrian soldier.

According to a report in The Australian newspaper, the horrifying image was posted on Twitter by a proud father with the words “That’s my boy” and is set to reverberate around the world as a savage example of the brutality of the Islamic State.


http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/the-photo-that-will-shock-the-world-jihadist-khaled-sharroufs-son-7-holds-severed-head/story-fni0cx12-1227019897582

 

[SirRumpole]

Religion on Peace strikes - yet again - with an Australian twist.

A new low...

The sad thing is, if that little boy had his own head cut off his father would probably be proud of him for being a martyr for Islam.

 

[drsmith]

A few days ago, Catholic Online posted images of what it claimed was "ISIS begins killing Christians in Mosul".

They are even more graphic than the above.