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IRAQ - Four Years On

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Calliope said:
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I would have thought that's an easy one to fix...just cancell their passports. If they are allowed back, that makes Border Protection a farce.
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You can't stop an Australian citizen from entering Australia. A passport only identifies them as Australian, it's not a requirement for entry. And even if you deny them entry, where do you send them? It's unlikely any other country would accept these deluded scumbags.
 
McLovin said:
You can't stop an Australian citizen from entering Australia. A passport only identifies them as Australian, it's not a requirement for entry. And even if you deny them entry, where do you send them? It's unlikely any other country would accept these deluded scumbags.
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There seems only one solution. Indefinite detention, preferably somewhere in the Simpson desert.
 
I find it interesting that the US in the last few days have gone quiet since Putin indicated support for the current Irag Government.

ISIS appear to have taken a border town which has linked their forces. The same forces involved in the Syrian conflict which I understand the US were assisting against Assad.

Could the current situation be a better one in which the Zeionist can better control the oil interests, or if let go for awhile, allow a more justified frontal attack (in the eyes of MSM) and even the UN.

All looking increasingly complex and sticky IMHO.
 
McLovin said:
You can't stop an Australian citizen from entering Australia. A passport only identifies them as Australian, it's not a requirement for entry. And even if you deny them entry, where do you send them? It's unlikely any other country would accept these deluded scumbags.
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Is there no basis for refusing them re-entry into Australia?
If not, then:
Attorney General George Brandis said the growing number of Australians fighting overseas represented a serious threat to national security and anyone who tried to re-enter Australia could be jailed for up to 25 years.

“This is a very serious domestic threat to Australia,’’ Senator Brandis said. “Any Australian who thinks about heading to Syria or Iraq is committing a serious crime against Australian law.
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Julia said:
Is there no basis for refusing them re-entry into Australia?
If not, then:
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No, there's no basis at all. Think of it in reverse, a bunch of Iraqis up to no good in Australia, Australia tries to deport them and the Iraqis refuse to take them. Similarly it's almost unheard of and virtually impossible to strip someone of their citizenship. I think this is a very dangerous development. Even if these guys are jailed they will become martyrs to their fellow idiots.
 
McLovin said:
No, there's no basis at all. Think of it in reverse, a bunch of Iraqis up to no good in Australia, Australia tries to deport them and the Iraqis refuse to take them. Similarly it's almost unheard of and virtually impossible to strip someone of their citizenship. I think this is a very dangerous development. Even if these guys are jailed they will become martyrs to their fellow idiots.
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These are the rules according to the Department of Immigration and border protection.

http://www.citizenship.gov.au/current/losing_citizenship/


Revoking citizenship

If you became a citizen by application you can have your citizenship taken away if you are found to have committed a serious criminal offence prior to gaining citizenship. Australian citizenship can be revoked if:

you have been convicted of making a false statement or representation in relation to your application to become an Australian citizen
you are convicted of a serious criminal offence at any time prior to becoming a citizen involving a sentence of 12 months or more
your approval to become an Australian citizen was gained as a result of migration-related fraud
your approval to become an Australian citizen was gained as a result of third party fraud; for example, fraudulent conduct by a migration agent in the citizenship application
it would be contrary to the public interest for you to remain an Australian citizen.

An Australian citizen by birth cannot have their Australian citizenship revoked. Similarly, a person conferred citizenship, after fully disclosing all relevant factors, cannot have their Australian citizenship revoked.

People who have their citizenship revoked can be removed from Australia.




"it would be contrary to the public interest" seems a catch all phrase, but I don't know if it's ever been tested. No doubt such a decision could be challenged in court.
 
SirRumpole said:
"it would be contrary to the public interest" seems a catch all phrase, but I don't know if it's ever been tested. No doubt such a decision could be challenged in court.
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"Contrary to public interest" only applies if there was some fraud committed in the granting of citizenship. It is not a valid reason to cancel citizenship once granted. That is, if you were granted citizenship by making a false declaration on your application and it would be contrary to the public interest for you to remain in Australia, your citizenship can be canceled.

Apparently there have been a grand total of 15 cancelations of citizenship in the last 64 years.
 
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