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Plus his ideological position makes him little contrast to Labor or the Greens.

Joe Hockey is a clown.

Not sure Julie Bishop is strong enough.

The outsider I quite like is Scott Morrison, but he doesn't have the runs on the board at this stage.
They're pretty much stuck with Tony Abbott who - if he keeps up his present performance - could well allow Labor another term.
 
drsmith said:
Tony Abbott's going to have to hold his nerve and hope his party does the same.

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Rather than holding his nerve, imo he needs to show some signs of being up to leading the country.
I'm not surprised to see these results:
Tony Abbott’s approval rating has dropped over the last month. 33% (down 4%) approve of the job Tony Abbott is doing as Opposition Leader and 58% (up 4%) disapprove – a change in net rating from -17 to -25 over the last 4 weeks. This is Tony Abbott’s lowest rating since he became Opposition Leader.

65% (down 9%) of Coalition voters approve and 29% (up 7%) disapprove.

By gender – men 36% approve/56% disapprove, women 29% approve/59% disapprove. In net terms this represents a decline with men from -16 to -20 and with women from -19 to -30.
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Julia said:
Rather than holding his nerve, imo he needs to show some signs of being up to leading the country.
I'm not surprised to see these results:
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Yes and on top of that he's a milsugi, misogin, minisol, well one of them also. LOL:

I mean, give me a break, what has Julia done to prove she can run the country. Other than knife the prime minister to take his job, put in place the greens policies for them and carry out a nasty rant to grandstand herself.
Yet given how bad labor has been, we are still asking is Tony upto it, christ anyone is upto it compared to the goon show.
I mean Wayne Swan, Julia Gillard, yep they're doing a stirling job, come on youre taking the pizz.:D
 
sptrawler said:
Yet given how bad labor has been, we are still asking is Tony upto it, christ anyone is upto it compared to the goon show.
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Anyone? Would Milne and the Greens be up to it then? Would Joe Hockey in charge of the Libs be up to it?

It's ludicrous to think that because Labor have been poor, anyone will be better.

Abbott does have to prove he is up to it - and he's not doing it at the moment.
 
I think it's about time the Libs started listening to the electorate instead of just relying on Gillard to lose
I don't mind Abbott but plenty seem to so they should plan for a change now
Not sure who
Not Hockey
Turnbull is the only choice
Pyne would be good but wouldn't widely appeal
Are you listening Peter ?
 
Ferret said:
Anyone? Would Milne and the Greens be up to it then? Would Joe Hockey in charge of the Libs be up to it?

It's ludicrous to think that because Labor have been poor, anyone will be better.

Abbott does have to prove he is up to it - and he's not doing it at the moment.
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O.K so you change Abbott. Then whoever you make as leader of the opposition, is attacked by Labor and the press. What do you do then change again and again?
It boils down to the fact they really haven't managed to dig up any real muck on Abbott, yet have carried out a very successful character assasination.
Who is to say that whoever you put in will do any better?
All it shows is the ploy was successful in distracting the focus from the main issue, the economy.
To me, as a swinging voter, the performance of the incumbent government is what matters. No one knows how good or bad the opposition will be untill such time as they take office.
As for Milne and the Greens, they basically have been in power since the last election, by having Labor over a barrel.
Everyone thought Howard wasn't up to it, before he took office and Labor under Keating carried out a character assasination on him prior to the election.
It is the Labor Party that has got us into the current financial mess, not Abbott.
Can I see the coalition fixing it, who knows. But I do know this government isn't going to, they are still spending more than they earn. That's despite new taxes and an increase in marginal tax rates.:eek:
 
sptrawler said:
O.K so you change Abbott. Then whoever you make as leader of the opposition, is attacked by Labor and the press. What do you do then change again and again?
It boils down to the fact they really haven't managed to dig up any real muck on Abbott, yet have carried out a very successful character assasination.
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Oh, come on, its not the press doing it to him. It's himself. He has to start looking Prime Ministerial.
His continuing attacks which have been nasty and therefore shown him in a bad light. Turnbull looks well mannered and thoughtful in comparison. Abbott just looks like an attack dog. You can do that for a while but its been 2 years and people are sick of it. That is why Gillard was able to attack him so hard. People, especially women, thought he deserved it.
 
Knobby22 said:
Oh, come on, its not the press doing it to him. It's himself. He has to start looking Prime Ministerial.
His continuing attacks which have been nasty and therefore shown him in a bad light. Turnbull looks well mannered and thoughtful in comparison. Abbott just looks like an attack dog. You can do that for a while but its been 2 years and people are sick of it. That is why Gillard was able to attack him so hard. People, especially women, thought he deserved it.
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I agree. I would have thought a self described "swinging voter" would be a little less one-eyed.;)
 
Knobby22 said:
Oh, come on, its not the press doing it to him. It's himself. He has to start looking Prime Ministerial.
His continuing attacks which have been nasty and therefore shown him in a bad light. Turnbull looks well mannered and thoughtful in comparison. Abbott just looks like an attack dog. You can do that for a while but its been 2 years and people are sick of it. That is why Gillard was able to attack him so hard. People, especially women, thought he deserved it.
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Turnbull was the leader before Abbott, have you forgoten, he kept tripping ver his own feet.
That's why the Libs replaced him. He comes over well when under no pressure, but Labor had him backflipping like a circus clown.
 
McLovin said:
I agree. I would have thought a self described "swinging voter" would be a little less one-eyed.;)
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I just call it as I see it, I have voted Labor as many, if not more times than Liberal.
But as far as this government goes, as I have said over and over, it is the worst government I have seen.
If that makes me one eyed, so be it.:xyxthumbs
 
white_goodman said:
bring back Costello, biggest election win in Australian history... even a one eyed Labor supporter would have to agree
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Bring back Turnbull.
Abbot is quite likely to lose the unloseable election; his approval rating has today hit to a new Low: 27%.
 
sptrawler said:
Turnbull was the leader before Abbott, have you forgoten, he kept tripping ver his own feet.
That's why the Libs replaced him. He comes over well when under no pressure, but Labor had him backflipping like a circus clown.
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Turnbull had a higher approval rating when he was ditched than Abbott does now. Turnbull was fighting a seriously up hill battle against an extremely popular PM, Abbott is not.

Abbott will lose.
 
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