Melbourne Cup 2012

[Tink]

Oh, and 10. Ethiopia with the Work Cup Sweep.
This is the only horse racing event I enjoy.

 

[Tink]

Wooooo

 

[white_goodman]

thanks for your donations Australian public, you just payed my xmas bonus

 

[Julia]

As to the "sport" of horse racing: I'll only call it a sport when the jockeys run round the course, each carrying a horse on their back. But in that context, the horsing-around of the four-legged variety is just a distraction.

I have mixed feelings about it. Hate seeing the horses being whipped.
I suppose they're bred to race and enjoy doing it. If they didn't, they'd just fail I suppose.
Would definitely like to see jumps racing banned.

The Melbourne Cup is the only race I ever watch. When it's over I'm just thankful if no horse or person is hurt.

 

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thanks for your donations Australian public, you just payed my xmas bonus

Are you Irish then?

PS: Julia, of course I watch it as well - if only to know what my friends are talking about.
Why my very dim view of the betting? Because I see the misery it causes in families that can't afford the daily bread, but feel compelled to have a flutter with money they don't have. The race may stop the nation and inject Millions into the State's coffers. But too much of that cash is coming from the disadvantaged without a penny going back to them.
That's the difference between gambling in casinos, pokies, Flemington - and Lotto.

 

[white_goodman]

Are you Irish then?

no, im epic

 

[Tink]

Yes agree Julia, I dont like jump racing. I think they should be banned as well.

!. Green Moon

2. Fiorente

3. Jakkelberry

Kellini just missed out, I nearly got 2.

 

[white_goodman]

Yes agree Julia, I dont like jump racing. I think they should be banned as well..

just ban whatever you dont like? I dont like cigarettes, dont see me calling for their ban

the cost to owners, jockeys insurance, prize money etc etc wil dictate its viability going forward, no need for the ban hammer

 

[Tink]

Well thats my opinion, I think its cruel on the animal having to jump those hurdles, I cant watch it and refuse to watch it.

 

[white_goodman]

Well thats my opinion, I think its cruel on the animal having to jump those hurdles, I cant watch it and refuse to watch it.

well dont then, simple, no need to call for bans on things you dont have much information or knowledge on..

how would you feel if AFL or something was banned because a bunch of inner city wineo's thought it was too rough and uncivilised?

 

[MrBurns]

Appreciate if someone could tip the 2012 Cup winner for me please.

Green Moon

 

[Logique]

Overall, the bookies won this year. The first 4 on NSW TAB paid $1.4Mill.

Roll on Oz Lotto tonight.

 

[white_goodman]

Overall, the bookies won this year. The first 4 on NSW TAB paid $1.4Mill.

Roll on Oz Lotto tonight.

if they run a proper book they should win every race

 

[bellenuit]

The first seven horses across the line were bred in Ireland.

http://www.news.com.au/news/green-moon-wins-melbourne-cup/story-fnehlez2-1226511560446

 

[Miss Hale]

Second again this year at long odds so I received a tidy payout

 

[So_Cynical]

In NSW the trifecta paid $51,171

An upset result for sure.

 

[Sean K]

My wife's favourite colour is green. so we're happy.

Not sure about the whipping issue. They must feel something from it, as we still hit them. It's assumed they will run faster if we cause them some pain. How much? Do they enjoy winning? The horses just look the same at the end, but a bit sweaty. Like a marathon runner. How much pain do they go through? I suppose they choose the pain though. Don't they?

A bit concerned with my bet through IAS though. On the iPhone app I got a 5:1 return for a place, but I think the TAB return was 7.5:1. HUH?

 

[MrBurns]

My wife's favourite colour is green. so we're happy.

Not sure about the whipping issue. They must feel something from it, as we still hit them. It's assumed they will run faster if we cause them some pain. How much? Do they enjoy winning? The horses just look the same at the end, but a bit sweaty. Like a marathon runner. How much pain do they go through? I suppose they choose the pain though. Don't they?

A bit concerned with my bet through IAS though. On the iPhone app I got a 5:1 return for a place, but I think the TAB return was 7.5:1. HUH?

Those horses are the most valuable in the world they arent hurt, the whip just stings a little and is a signal for them to move it, only used in the straight.

 

[Duckman#72]

I have mixed feelings about it. Hate seeing the horses being whipped.
I suppose they're bred to race and enjoy doing it. If they didn't, they'd just fail I suppose.
Would definitely like to see jumps racing banned.

The Melbourne Cup is the only race I ever watch. When it's over I'm just thankful if no horse or person is hurt.

I love horse racing, and it's been in the family, but I fully agree with you. Jumps racing should be banned. The VCR refuses to take the hard decisions. The Warrnambool Jumps carnival is considered a success if no horses are destroyed.

As for whipping, Australia has some of the most lenient whipping guidelines in the world. It was only 12 months ago restrictions were officially introduced. Up until then, the jockey had to pummel the horse before they would be charged with "excessive whip use". Yes horses love to run, they are bred to run........but they don't enjoy being hit.

I've seen plenty of swollen welt marks on the tender flanks of expensive horses. It is designed to inflict pain.
Duckman

 

[Julia]

just ban whatever you dont like? I dont like cigarettes, dont see me calling for their ban

That's just a silly analogy. If human beings, who have total autonomy over their choices of behaviour, choose to smoke cigarettes, that's their decision.
The horses have no similar choice when they are forced into jumps racing.
It's yet another example of the exploitation of animals for the amusement of pathetic human beings. Shameful.

the cost to owners, jockeys insurance, prize money etc etc wil dictate its viability going forward, no need for the ban hammer

That is entirely missing the point.

Not sure about the whipping issue. They must feel something from it, as we still hit them. It's assumed they will run faster if we cause them some pain. How much? Do they enjoy winning? The horses just look the same at the end, but a bit sweaty. Like a marathon runner. How much pain do they go through? I suppose they choose the pain though. Don't they?

How do they choose the pain? It's perhaps like a dog that's repeatedly beaten. It will do what is expected of it in order to avoid the pain.
(Not meaning to direct the above at you Kennas. You seem to feel the same doubts as do I and others.)

As for whipping, Australia has some of the most lenient whipping guidelines in the world. It was only 12 months ago restrictions were officially introduced. Up until then, the jockey had to pummel the horse before they would be charged with "excessive whip use". Yes horses love to run, they are bred to run........but they don't enjoy being hit.

I suppose only the most devoted masochist enjoys being hit. Impossible to thus classify horses.

I've seen plenty of swollen welt marks on the tender flanks of expensive horses. It is designed to inflict pain.
Duckman

Just horrible. All, once again, for the amusement of human beings who exploit animals just because they can and because people are in a position to dominate animals.