Bill Shorten's definition of misogyny

[drsmith]

Misogyny, to me, is a - in the language which I understand it to have been used most recently is a view that there are some people who have a prejudice about women in certain occupations and they have an unexamined view in their own head about the status of women and the equality of women to do a whole range of things…

It's like everything Labor does.

A bloody mess.

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/...s_for_one_good_man_to_consult_his_dictionary/

 

[dutchie]

What ever it takes.

Changing the dictionary - easy.

 

[Julia]

Pathetic attempt at evasion by Mr Shorten.

 

[sptrawler]

Well they are loading up with both barrels and ready to blow their feet off with the imigration issue.
I am sure Indonesia would like nothing better than to rub, grubby labor's nose in the dirt, after the live cattle issue.
This is the problem with labor, they think everyone just forgives and forgets, as they get on their way creating mayhem.LOL,LOL,LOL
Their legacy will be rolled out and I'm sure Bambang will put in his $0.02c worth.

http://www.skynews.com.au/politics/article.aspx?id=806309

As for Bill, well he is desperate to be the next chosen one for the $450k jackpot. So if you say nothing, you can say nothing wrong, great tactic if you are surrounded by winners.
Not so good when you are surrounded by losers, they look like losers with attitude, you look like loser without conviction.
It seems they are taking the bash Tony to a whole new level, which is good because they are just showing how little of their own achievements are worthy of news.

 

[MrBurns]

Bill Shorten is just another example of people with little or no ability worming themselves into highly paid positions.
No doubt his connection with the GG had everything to do with it but WE foot the bill and have to put up with ineffective people on our payroll.

 

[Tink]

Change the meaning to suit yourself?
Yes or no

This whole thing is ridiculous, especially that he has daughters.
No wonder his wife came forward.

 

[tinhat]

What ever it takes.

Changing the dictionary - easy.

Interestingly, I heard on the radio this morning that the Macquarie Dictionary, as a result of the current social discourse, is going to update its definition of misogyny. A spokeswoman for the dictionary said that its meaning in usage for the past twenty years or so has diverged from the traditional definition of hating women. Heard it on Radio National.

 

[awg]

Completly pathetic hypocrisy again. Guardians of the English language and others may feel embarrassed.

Bill Shorten is a prime example of fake political correctness imo, he is full of bs, ex-union guy, swears his head off

Stupid for Gillard to call Abbott a misogynist, doesnt ring true to me.

 

[dutchie]

Stupid for Gillard to call Abbott a misogynist, doesnt ring true to me.

Gillards' proof in her rant is very feeble.

The real proof for Gillard is - "Tony Abbott is a misogynist because I screamed it out at him and because we (the Labor Party) all said it on numerous occasions"

Come on Julia get a life or start acting like a PM.

 

[Julia]

Interestingly, I heard on the radio this morning that the Macquarie Dictionary, as a result of the current social discourse, is going to update its definition of misogyny. A spokeswoman for the dictionary said that its meaning in usage for the past twenty years or so has diverged from the traditional definition of hating women. Heard it on Radio National.

Shame on the Maquarie.

 

[drsmith]

Shame on the Maquarie.

Indeed. They should keep out of partisan politics.

The Macquarie Dictionary has announced it is broadening the definition of the word "misogyny".

As it stands, the reference book says misogyny is a hatred of women, the kind that's pathological.

But editor Sue Butler says it's time that changed to reflect what Ms Gillard really meant last week when she accused Opposition Leader Tony Abbott of sexism and misogyny during a speech to parliament.

http://www.smh.com.au/national/miso...ange-after-gillard-speech-20121017-27q22.html

The only saving grace is that they would have to redefine liar to save this government.

 

[white_goodman]

How can anyone take Shorten seriously

 

[IFocus]

Worth a read


Word Of The Day
By Mike Seccombe

It was the same tired, trite question as Emma Alberici asked Tanya Plibersek the previous night. That Leigh Sales asked Penny Wong.

Yes, over the past couple of days ”” ever since Julia Gillard flayed Abbott for his undeniable sexism ”” even the sober types at the ABC were singing from the same song sheet as the right wing claquers like Piers Akerman, Andrew Bolt and Paul Sheehan. Or, more correctly reciting from the same page of an abridged dictionary.

And all of them equally inane. For the English language is a far more nimble and subtle thing than much of Australia’s political commentary this week.

Don’t take my word for it; take the Oxford English dictionary, and New York Times writer on language, the late William Safire.

Safire, incidentally, was no leftie. He was, as well as being a peerless authority on the language, a right-wing columnist and former staffer for both Richard Nixon and Spiro Agnew.

But just over four years ago, Safire flew to the defence of Presidential candidate Hillary Clinton, when she complained of misogyny during her primary campaign against Barack Obama.

Here’s what Safire wrote:

“Senator Hillary Clinton used a word recently that has been changing its meaning. In charging that she has been treated more harshly in the media because of her gender than Senator Barack Obama has been treated because of his race, she said, ‘It does seem as though the press at least is not as bothered by the incredible vitriol that has been engendered by comments and reactions of people who are nothing but misogynists.’

http://www.theglobalmail.org/blog/word-of-the-day/421/

 

[wayneL]

Worth a read


Word Of The Day
By Mike Seccombe

http://www.theglobalmail.org/blog/word-of-the-day/421/

OK

So we render the word "sexist" redundant by making sexism "misogyny".

Fine.

So what then do we use for wha used to be referred to as misogyny?

Pffffft ridiculous.

 

[bellenuit]

OK

So we render the word "sexist" redundant by making sexism "misogyny".

Fine.

So what then do we use for wha used to be referred to as misogyny?

Pffffft ridiculous.

"abbottony" for the noun and "abbottinist" for the adjective.

Actually this redefining of the word has screwed things up. Since few Labor male MPs were willing to state on the record that they believed Abbott was a woman hater, I was hoping the opposition would raise a motion to censure Gillard for calling Abbott a misogynist, based on its up to now meaning of "woman hater". Then any Labor MP who voted against the censure motion, would be implicitly saying that they actually believed Abbott to be a woman hater and would have to defend why they believe that to be the case. However, the redefining of the word now gives everyone a way out.

Gillard needs to be asked in what context she used the word.

 

[gav]

How can anyone take Shorten seriously

ROFL that's gold!

 

[Miss Hale]

This is beyond ridiculous - the Macquarie dictionary is changing the definition of a word because Gillard misused it? Pathetic.

Slightly off topic but does anyone remember a few years ago when Sophie Mirrabella was pregnant and someone said they hoped her baby would die? I can't remember who it was but I have a feeling Tanya Plibersek had something to do with it. Can anyone help me out? I have done a Google search but nothing came up (and yet I'm sure the incident happened).

 

[Julia]

This will be what you're thinking of, Miss Hale. It was Belinda Neale, not Tanya Plibersek.
from Wikipaedia:

On a number of occasions her comments both inside and outside of parliament have attracted controversy. In 2008, Sophie Mirabella stated in parliament to Julia Gillard, who is childless, "You won't need his (ex-PM Kevin Rudd) taxpayer-funded nanny, will you?"[25] The following day a comment to Mirabella from Belinda Neal, former Labor MP for Robertson, ignited controversy when she made attacks on Sophie Mirabella's unborn child. Neal stated that "Your child will turn into a demon if you have such evil thoughts. You'll make your child a demon, you'll make your child a demon. Evil thoughts will make your child a demon."[

Sophie Mirabella has imo brought much upon herself. She has handed out her share of insults and silly comments.
The Libs would be the better for replacing her on the shadow front bench with e.g. Kelly O'Dwyer.

 

[Miss Hale]

This will be what you're thinking of, Miss Hale. It was Belinda Neale, not Tanya Plibersek.
from Wikipaedia:


Sophie Mirabella has imo brought much upon herself. She has handed out her share of insults and silly comments.
The Libs would be the better for replacing her on the shadow front bench with e.g. Kelly O'Dwyer.

Yes that's it, thanks Julia. I had a feeling Plibersek tried to defend Neale's comments in an interview later (I think this was when my opinion of Plibersek took a dive). Yes, I am no great fan of Mirrabella - I tend to agree with her policy position on most things but she has a poor way of expressing herself and, as you say, has handed out her fair share of insults as well. She has zero tact!

I suppose the reason I was trying to remember this is that I was thinking that really all this insulting stuff has been going on in parliament since the year dot and certainly by the Labor party so their cries now that Tony Abbott and the Coalition are dragging the parliament to new lows is just so much rubbish. To hear Gillard say in her now infamous misogyny speech that she had to endure misogyny and sexism every day from Tony Abbott was just sick making because it's simply not true. Every day? What utter rubbish.

 

[Julia]

To hear Gillard say in her now infamous misogyny speech that she had to endure misogyny and sexism every day from Tony Abbott was just sick making because it's simply not true. Every day? What utter rubbish.

Of course it is.