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There is an easy compromise. Means test it.

Report your alcohol consumption thru the year along side your tax return. And they can either rebate your wine tax or charge you extra depending onyour income.

Alternately, you must show proof of income at where you buy your drink. And a different tax applies so the lower income grop do not get taxed.

So many simple solutions that will also create tons of jobs for accountants.
 
Some comments online have really highlighted how inept this government is.

Alcopop tax - fail. Young drinkers just purchase bricks (700ml or 1L) of booze and mix themselves, probably getting even more drunk as stronger mixes are made.

Banning cask wine (5L & 4L), certain hours in NT to try to curb indigenous drinking. Fail. They just buy 2 x 2L instead. (Link)

Price of Bacardi Rum - 1L
Australia - Dan Murphy's - $49.99 (Link)
USA - Random Google search - ~$20 (Link)

A tax, is a tax, is a tax, no matter how they dress it up. I actually feel sorry for the pensioners doing it tough already, imagine them going to the RSL for a roast with a class of vino which will cost more 'if' this change comes into effect, and they are already struggling.
 
If they are serious, they would pull the plug on all the advertising first.
They have done none of that.
 
They are taxing the crap out of everything "fun" so it's no surprise wine is next on the list. The alcopop thing was never going to work, when I was a teenager we used to just buy a bottle of spirits and a few mixers - the cheap option.

I'm a beer drinker most of the time so the wine tax won't affect me all that much, though I do enjoy a good drop of red every now and then, especially after a hearty meal.

A bit off topic I know but I've taken the step away from the big brewers and buy my beer from a local "brew on premesis" place - it's a lot cheaper at around $25 a slab, better for you (no preservatives etc but it does need to be refrigerated at all times), no nasty hangover the next day and I'm supporting a local business.
The place I go has started looking at wine and spirits, and are ready to go at it, though they need to make sure their licence applies to wine and spirits. By all accounts they will be cheaper as well. From what I hear the spirits are "as good as the real thing" but wine is a different kettle of fish as far as I know.
 
stewiejp said:
A bit off topic I know but I've taken the step away from the big brewers and buy my beer from a local "brew on premesis" place - it's a lot cheaper at around $25 a slab, better for you (no preservatives etc but it does need to be refrigerated at all times), no nasty hangover the next day and I'm supporting a local business.
The place I go has started looking at wine and spirits, and are ready to go at it, though they need to make sure their licence applies to wine and spirits. By all accounts they will be cheaper as well. From what I hear the spirits are "as good as the real thing" but wine is a different kettle of fish as far as I know.
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Yeh i am a huge fan of micro-brews, have been for years. (Check out the beer thread in my travel forum in sig)

Interesting to note that although beer consumption is dropping, craft beer consumption is increasing. Currenty only around 2 -3% of beer consumed in Aus is 'Craft' while in the US it is closer to 9%, so a lot more room for growth for Australias 200+ microbreweries :)
 
well this may be an interesting technique in gaming the CPI..

this is completely disgusting, its anti business, anti consumer, anti free choice...

all hail our moral and benevolent overlords
 
prawn_86 said:
Currenty only around 2 -3% of beer consumed in Aus is 'Craft' while in the US it is closer to 9%, so a lot more room for growth for Australias 200+ microbreweries :)
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That's probably got something to do with the awful state of domestic mass-produced beer in the US. Michelob Ultra anyone? Ewwww...
 
McLovin said:
That's probably got something to do with the awful state of domestic mass-produced beer in the US. Michelob Ultra anyone? Ewwww...
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Cause VB, West End, Carlton Draught, XXXX etc etc are so much better...
 
prawn_86 said:
Cause VB, West End, Carlton Draught, XXXX etc etc are so much better...
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Yep, a lot better. They're at least drinkable.

And for God's sake why on Earth is Newkie Brown so popular in America. It's the worst beer out of the UK but they lap it up over there.
 
I was at the Beer and Beef club last Wednesday where they had two byrds label.
Craft beer is the fastest growing segment of the market. They expect they will have a 10% share one day.
 
McLovin said:
Yep, a lot better. They're at least drinkable.

And for God's sake why on Earth is Newkie Brown so popular in America. It's the worst beer out of the UK but they lap it up over there.
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Like Fosters in the UK or Corona in Mexico? (Actually, l haven't seen Fosters on sales in Australia in a while)
 
DB008 said:
Like Fosters in the UK or Corona in Mexico? (Actually, l haven't seen Fosters on sales in Australia in a while)
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From memory the Wato Bay still stocks it. And I'm sure if you prod gently in the Rocks you'll find it. Fosters in the UK is not actually a bad beer, it's not good but it's not bad.
 
Beer gives you colon cancer. Wine (particularly Red) is good for your blood. Drink more Red wine. Support the Australian Red Wine industry.
 
I'm not a big wine drinker (or drinker of any alcohol for that matter) but I too think this is completely unfair and won't work. We need less taxes not more :mad:
 
Last week's budget provided $255 Million to spirits distillers by lifting the excise relief cap to $350,000 from $100,000.
Ten years or so ago, Ken Henry's Tax Review recommended a volumetric alcohol tax that would have lowered the tax on a standard drink of the stuff ,but would have jacked it up for beer and wine. The Rudster's government promptly ignored it.
If you've got a taste for spirits, expect to pay $1.11 in taxes for a standard drink, compared with 50 cents for full-strength packaged beer and just 23 cents for wine.
Worldwide, only Iceland and then Norway levies higher alcohol taxes .
 
dyna said:
Last week's budget provided $255 Million to spirits distillers by lifting the excise relief cap to $350,000 from $100,000.
Ten years or so ago, Ken Henry's Tax Review recommended a volumetric alcohol tax that would have lowered the tax on a standard drink of the stuff ,but would have jacked it up for beer and wine. The Rudster's government promptly ignored it.
If you've got a taste for spirits, expect to pay $1.11 in taxes for a standard drink, compared with 50 cents for full-strength packaged beer and just 23 cents for wine.
Worldwide, only Iceland and then Norway levies higher alcohol taxes .
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I would have been upset to see the price of beer and wine rise to subsidise spirits which are mostly foreign owned.

Much prefer a great draft beer at a pub rather than a bourbon and coke.
 
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