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wayneL said:
Looney Right? ....give me Abbott over Turnbull every day, all day.
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We all as humans have the chance ' to stand on the shoulders of giants ' . The choice that you have between Turnbull and Abbott is; of one that will use the vantage point to see what's there in all directions and the other who'll poke abboutt in the ear wax.

And Mr Burns, He took on Thatcher ... And won, when he was in his twenty's ... gave the finger to Kerry Packer in his Thirty's.... I don't like the way he made his money , And Bill Hensons work is art, but there you go.

And for the one chance only gang.... Robert Gordon Menzies . you might want to google him and have a bit of a read.


Sorry for the earlier one Wayne... It was just that when those ducks lined up, I couldn't help myself. And Vanstone in the link delineates liberals and conservative's with a filleting knife. And guess who ends up in the trash can
 
wayneL said:
Seriously though, I keep testing slightly left of center on those politics tests and I wouldn't p1ss on Turnbull if he was on fire. There are aspects of Abbott I dislike, but give me Abbott over Turnbull every day, all day.
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Yeh, he's got the missus doin the knitting and she'd be in the CWA and tellin us we are all doomed for thinking a bit on the gay side.

God no longer rules the world ole Pal, money does and it is about to implode because too few are getting value anymore.

Just put him back on the alter reciting latin for his Grace (the peddler) and bring in the Turn bull for the slaughter of the Thatcher way.

In the next term the Libs are more than welcome to bear witness to the real crash. IMHO of course
 
MrBurns said:
I think Abbott will suprise everyone as PM, despite his awkwardness I believe he's a decent man who will act reponsibly.
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He is a far more decent person than the ravening ratbags sitting opposite on the Labor front bench. That's why they seek to destroy him... he exposes their hypocrisy.
 
Calliope said:
He is a far more decent person than the ravening ratbags sitting opposite on the Labor front bench. That's why they seek to destroy him... he exposes their hypocrisy.
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At last, someone hits the nail on the head.
That is why they, hate him, they can't play him.
Actually from memory I think Abbott and Gillard got on quite well while they were junior politicians.
Gillard knows that he has the guts to see it through and obviously knows heis no idiot. That is probably why she is becoming frantic.
 
Knobby22 said:
Also, he is twice as popular among Liberal voters as Abbott.
Everyone but the loony right would prefer him.
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Miss Hale said:
I prefer Abbott to Turnball, would you call me loony right?
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Charming of you, Knobby. Several of us here prefer Mr Abbott to Mr Turnbull, perhaps for the succinct reason of Mr Burns below.
You would classify us as 'loony'?

MrBurns said:
I think Abbott will suprise everyone as PM, despite his awkwardness I believe he's a decent man who will act reponsibly.
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Julia said:
Charming of you, Knobby. Several of us here prefer Mr Abbott to Mr Turnbull, perhaps for the succinct reason of Mr Burns below.
You would classify us as 'loony'?
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OK, maybe the term should be "true believers".
 
Knobby22 said:
OK, maybe the term should be "true believers".
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"True believers" in what?
I hold no rigidly established brief for either side of politics. I'm not a particular believer that Mr Abbott represents Australia's salvation. I am just so utterly disgusted with the government, and in particular their blatant hypocrisy, that I want them gone and would be prepared to give the coalition the chance of repairing some of the damage done by Labor.

I don't think that makes me, or any of the hundreds of thousands of others who feel similarly, "loony'.

There is more than enough insulting language being tossed about the parliament and the media. I'd have hoped we might be able to avoid unnecessary insults on this forum.
 
Julia said:
"True believers" in what?
I hold no rigidly established brief for either side of politics. I'm not a particular believer that Mr Abbott represents Australia's salvation. I am just so utterly disgusted with the government, and in particular their blatant hypocrisy, that I want them gone and would be prepared to give the coalition the chance of repairing some of the damage done by Labor.

I don't think that makes me, or any of the hundreds of thousands of others who feel similarly, "loony'.

There is more than enough insulting language being tossed about the parliament and the media. I'd have hoped we might be able to avoid unnecessary insults on this forum.
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Julia said:
"True believers" in what?
I hold no rigidly established brief for either side of politics. I'm not a particular believer that Mr Abbott represents Australia's salvation. I am just so utterly disgusted with the government, and in particular their blatant hypocrisy, that I want them gone and would be prepared to give the coalition the chance of repairing some of the damage done by Labor.

I don't think that makes me, or any of the hundreds of thousands of others who feel similarly, "loony'.

There is more than enough insulting language being tossed about the parliament and the media. I'd have hoped we might be able to avoid unnecessary insults on this forum.
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OOOh get real there pages and pages of insults to anyone here who even dares suggest a reasonable argument against Abbott's lying, deceitful, fraudulent campaign again the current government...............god how precious.
 
Knobby22 said:
Also, he is twice as popular among Liberal voters as Abbott.
Everyone but the loony right would prefer him.
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Yep some one who is worth north of $100 mil ex merchant banker and drives a rolls is described continually on these forums as a left wing labor-ite says a lot.

Fact is the Coalition are stacked with the far right currently I think Turnbull is in for the long game as opposed to Abbott's attack dog efforts.
 
MrBurns said:
I think Abbott will suprise everyone as PM, despite his awkwardness I believe he's a decent man who will act reponsibly.
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Well he hasn't surprised anyone as opposition leader.

Happy to accept Slippers vote oh dear..............
 
Is the Coalition trying to out do Labor's stupidity on Peter Slipper ?

Exhibit 1: An ill considered question from Tony Abbott on the carbon tax.

He followed up with a supplementary question: "With an $800 increase in just one bill of which 70 per cent is due to the carbon tax, how can the Prime Minister possibly claim that Hetty Verolme's compensation is in any way adequate?"
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What a stupid question.

Who's advising Tony Abbott, a Malcolm Turnbull supporter ?

It also includes a note saying that electricity prices had increased on July 1 by 2.255 cents per unit because of the carbon tax, which "represents an estimated increase of 9.13 per cent for an average daily usage of 15.89 units".
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A few seconds of math and the adequacy of Hetty Verolme's compensation could have still been questionable. At 112 units per day, the carbon tax is costing her $2.52 per day or $922 per year.

That though still leaves the question as to what she is doing to use 112 units per day.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-10-10/abbott-caught-out-on-use-of-pensioner27s-power-bill/4305908

Exhibit 2:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-10-11/liberal-senator-apologises-for-thomson-gaffe/4306736

The best that can be said about this is that by leaking it to the media, it demonstrates that Craig Thompson is not a true independent, but we all knew that anyway.

Are their any adults left in Parliament that can run a school yard game, let alone the country ? :cry:
 
IFocus said:
Yep some one who is worth north of $100 mil ex merchant banker and drives a rolls is described continually on these forums as a left wing labor-ite says a lot.

Fact is the Coalition are stacked with the far right currently I think Turnbull is in for the long game as opposed to Abbott's attack dog efforts.
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Abbotts stuff up again pushing the same old carbon tax. Who is advising him??

I think he is close to being turfed out. One more mistake and people will just turn off him.
People want to kick Labor out but can't stomach Tony, less and less. If it gets close...he will be replaced.
 
IFocus said:
OOOh get real there pages and pages of insults to anyone here who even dares suggest a reasonable argument against Abbott's lying, deceitful, fraudulent campaign again the current government...............god how precious.
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True. We have lost posters because of it.
 
drsmith said:
Is the Coalition trying to out do Labor's stupidity on Peter Slipper ?

Exhibit 1: An ill considered question from Tony Abbott on the carbon tax.
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The bill also showed a doubling of consumption during the period in question, presumably due to additional heating during winter.
Just unbelievable that Tony Abbott can be so stupid!
The misogyny claim is imo quite unfounded, but to suggest Mr Abbott is 'loose with the truth' is an understatement.

Perhaps we need to throw the whole lot out and start over.:banghead:
 
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