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Listen to the interview between the ABC National Radio host and Greg Sheridan at the bottom of the page.

The host initially tried to paint David Patch as a witness to the alleged punching (the wall) incident.

Greg Sheridan: David Patch didn't..., and he said he witnessed nothing.
ABC host: No, no, that's not the case.
Greg Sheridan: No. It is the case, he witnessed nothing.
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The truth.

Ms Ramjan's former campaign manager David Patch, who is now a barrister, did not see the alleged incident but says he spoke to her soon after and has backed her version of events.

"I believed her then and I believe her now," Mr Patch, a former Labor candidate, told ABC News Online.
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-09-14/abbott-reax-shell/4262186

My bolds.
 
drsmith said:
What is Cantax ?

It can't be the carbon tax.

That's a TWBNCTUAGIL-tax.

It's like everything Labor does. A complicated mess.
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I think IFocus is having a swipe at Newman...:D:D:D

Probably trying to make him look worse than Gillard's carbon tax lie. Most thinking people probably realise that labor haven't done well in managing Qld and that superfluous positions need to be removed.

Maybe IFocus thinks that all unemployed people should be on public service wages while doodling or watching TV. That would help his unemployment figures...but hang on - isn't that what Bligh was doing? How come so many of her "friends have lost their jobs? Did she create jobs for her mates?
 
Interesting concept of a witness, especially from a barrister.

He writes in today's Age: ''I did not see the incident, but I was nearby. The count had just finished. Barbara found me. She is a small woman, and Tony Abbott was (and is) a strong man. She was very shaken, scared and angry. She told me that Tony Abbott had come up to her, put his face in her face, and punched the wall on either side of her head.

''So, I am a witness. Barbara's immediate complaint to me about what Abbott had just done had the absolute ring of truth about it. I believed Barbara at the time, and still do.''
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My bolds.

http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/po...im-of-abbott-intimidation-20120912-25svh.html
 
wayneL said:
Methinks the lady doth protest too much
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Both sides are being quite silly about this historical event.
Greg Sheridan, who is usually calm and sensible, was quite the opposite - almost hysterical - in his interview with ABC Radio (link above).

They should all move on. The only winner here is the odious David Marr who will be regarding the storm he has created with much pleasure.
 
If this Abbott issue back in his uni days is the best that the Labor 'dirt team' can come up with, they are getting payed too much money.:D
When you consider the Thomson and Gillard issues, labor must be wondering if their money was well spent, if all the can come up with is dubious allegations of a hissy fit.LOL
When he was still at school. LOL
They really need to get rid of that guy they brought in from the U.K, what a waste of money.LOL
 
sptrawler said:
If this Abbott issue back in his uni days is the best that the Labor 'dirt team' can come up with, they are getting payed too much money.:D
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Not sure about the Labor 'dirt team' on this, but after the Australia Day fiasco out of Gillard's office, it wouldn't suprise.

I do suspect though that for someone, it might be the last roll of the dice.

We now have this,

"I saw Abbott throw a punch at Barbara Ramjan, but didn't see it land ... when next I saw her, she was in an extremely shocked condition, leaning against the wall ... I thought he had actually struck her, but I can see that was simply my assumption and rationalisation.
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The witness wishes to remain anonymous but says he is willing to sign a statutory declaration about what he saw, if necessary.
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http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/polit...d-threw-me-against-a-wall-20120913-25ty2.html
 
How could you see a punch and not see it land? What fraction of a second would one have time to look away? And it would be strange not to follow a moving object to it's destination. These people must think Aussies are very stupid.

Agree that if this is the best labor can come up with, they are really clutching at straws. And labor can boast about their own Latham who broke a cab driver's arm and yet they still made him leader. Hypocritical?
 
I think that the Labor smears coupled with the sympathy vote on her father's death, will open up the gap between Abbott and Gillard in this week's polls as to which would be the worst PM.

We conservatives are stuck with Abbott. It would be stupidity to change horses this late in the piece, even if there was a likely contender...which there isn't.
 
Tannin said:
Nope. His word against hers and the word of two witnesses as well - three people in total.



I agree. The assault itself was a very long time ago and we have all done dumb stuff at that age. Abbott's problem isn't the assault in the 1970s, it's that he lied about it last week, and has lied again today. He's getting into some serious deep water here.
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Looks like the smears are lefty lies. Im surprised people think the left wont lie through their teeth to achieve their goal. Its red101, rabid right not much better.
 
Calliope said:
I think that the Labor smears coupled with the sympathy vote on her father's death, will open up the gap between Abbott and Gillard in this week's polls as to which would be the worst PM.

We conservatives are stuck with Abbott. It would be stupidity to change horses this late in the piece, even if there was a likely contender...which there isn't.
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It it hard to account for why Turnbull would be more popular than Abbott among coalition voters

Mr Turnbull enjoys extremely strong and growing support - outpolling Mr Abbott by more than two to one as preferred Liberal leader. His support has risen 2 points to 63 per cent since early June; Mr Abbott's fell 4 points to 30 per cent. Mr Turnbull is overwhelmingly ahead among Labor voters but also leads convincingly among Coalition supporters.
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Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/po...es-her-rise-20120916-260ms.html#ixzz26g5aNZCN
 
I hope the libs hold all their ammo till closer to the election. Abbott just has to hold his nerve. Gillard banging on about Qld and Nsw cuts after labor sent both states broke is a laugh. But it does go to show labors true face, keep spending till the nations wallet runs dry.
 
Latest poll shows Turnball is the preferred opposition leader (63 per cent to Abbott's 30 per cent).

Even worse for Abbott, among Coalition voters he is losing also (53 per cent to 45 per cent). Can he hold on?
 
Knobby22 said:
Latest poll shows Turnball is the preferred opposition leader (63 per cent to Abbott's 30 per cent).

Even worse for Abbott, among Coalition voters he is losing also (53 per cent to 45 per cent). Can he hold on?
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If Abbott can't hold on, I would hope they choose a leader who will not be pro carbon tax and who would be a better team player than Turnbull.

Julie Biship was articulate when answering questions of Grattan on Meet the Press over Grattan's recent relentless attacks on Abbott when he was a teenager. There is certainly more talent and politically experienced talent other than Turnbull IF a replacement is needed.

Here she takes questions on the punch that was likely never thrown:


 
You know you suck when you can't win a popularity contest against this government and PM. They're all so boring to listen to. Abbott hasn't had anything useful to say in months. He's offered no reason to vote for him aside from not being the incumbent.
 
McLovin said:
You know you suck when you can't win a popularity contest against this government and PM. They're all so boring to listen to. Abbott hasn't had anything useful to say in months. He's offered no reason to vote for him aside from not being the incumbent.
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Don't forget this government has the ABC and Fairfax to promote them and to throw dirt and doubt on the coalition.
 
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