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IFocus said:
Where is the talent?

Its sitting on the Coalition back bench not the front bench.
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I tend to agree. But I will give the front bench a go as they have constantly performed as an effective opposition.
Labor also has some really good members coming up through the ranks but I think they need the total wipeout of the next election to clean the current scum from the party.
 
A lot of the Coalition talent is in the Senate. But there's more than enough in the Reps.

Tony Windsor's comeuppance is at hand:
http://blogs.news.com.au/dailyteleg...ar_barb_sees_abbott_wooed_like_corleone_dons/
The government’s fate now depends on Dobell MP Craig Thomson, and his new neighbours on the cross bench, Tony Windsor and Rob Oakeshott, who are trying desperately to justify their support of him.

An implacable hatred for Tony Abbott drives Windsor, but the tide has turned and he’s on the wrong side of it.
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In the next Pol, I will be interested to see if Gillard and Labor have gained more traction.
If they have, then Abbott better change his tactics and fast.

Why, because her support to win the next election can come from...1.. running a deficit, 2....paying more handouts,... 3...detuning the carbon tax if they decide to do so. i.e. Rob Oakeshott.
So between now and then, will be a critical period. Unless of course the cost of the carbon tax is as bad as it is made out to be!!:2twocents

joea:
 
joea said:
In the next Pol, I will be interested to see if Gillard and Labor have gained more traction.
If they have, then Abbott better change his tactics and fast.

Why, because her support to win the next election can come from...1.. running a deficit, 2....paying more handouts,... 3...detuning the carbon tax if they decide to do so. i.e. Rob Oakeshott.
So between now and then, will be a critical period. Unless of course the cost of the carbon tax is as bad as it is made out to be!!:2twocents

joea:
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Joea, the Morgan poll results have been astonishingly ignored by the media at large. Their poll came out on the same day (or close to) as Newspoll and shows the worst result ever for labor. Labor was on a primary of 27.5% and Morgan have a pretty good track record with getting it pretty close.

Here is the chart from Morgan's website and it shows how Abbott began to pull the libs up in the polls not long after he took over from Turnbull:

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http://www.roymorgan.com/news/polls/2012/4782/
 
sails said:
Joea, the Morgan poll results have been astonishingly ignored by the media at large. Their poll came out on the same day (or close to) as Newspoll and shows the worst result ever for labor. Labor was on a primary of 27.5% and Morgan have a pretty good track record with getting it pretty close.
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Sails
Thanks.
I agree with you, however I do not trust Labor.

I was just reading this before I checked the forum.

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/polit...abuse-myself-says-speaker-20120601-1zlot.html

So it must be getting pretty toxic in the chamber. I actually feel sorry for the deputy speaker. I know Slipper can handle it, and it probably amuses him.
note the remark on an election.

thanks again!
joea
 
joea said:
Sails
Thanks.
I agree with you, however I do not trust Labor.

I was just reading this before I checked the forum.

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/polit...abuse-myself-says-speaker-20120601-1zlot.html

So it must be getting pretty toxic in the chamber. I actually feel sorry for the deputy speaker. I know Slipper can handle it, and it probably amuses him.
note the remark on an election.

thanks again!
joea
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Joea - and this hypocritical bit from the article you posted (bold is mine):
"A couple of times during the week I've thought I'd like to hurl some abuse myself," she said. "I can't do that any more."
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So Anna Burke would go back to hurling abuse if she wasn't in the speaker's chair? I though she was complaining that it was too abusive already...:D:D:D

Says it all really...
 
Love to see Peter Slipper back. Imagine what he would have done!
Anna Burke doesn't appear to cut it, also a bit biased.
 
sails said:
So Anna Burke would go back to hurling abuse if she wasn't in the speaker's chair? I though she was complaining that it was too abusive already...:D:D:D

Says it all really...
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She made some really bizarre remarks this morning in an interview with Fran Kelly, all to do with the quite long ago suicide of Greg Wilton who was apparently a friend of hers.
She's not up to the job at all. The irony of the Slipper situation is that he was probably the best speaker for some time.
 
sails said:
Joea, the Morgan poll results have been astonishingly ignored by the media at large. Their poll came out on the same day (or close to) as Newspoll and shows the worst result ever for labor. Labor was on a primary of 27.5% and Morgan have a pretty good track record with getting it pretty close.

Here is the chart from Morgan's website and it shows how Abbott began to pull the libs up in the polls not long after he took over from Turnbull:

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http://www.roymorgan.com/news/polls/2012/4782/
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And here is a link on the accuracy of Morgan's polls - so I can't see that the main media have any excuse for not reporting this along with Newspoll:

http://www.roymorgan.com/news/polls/2012/4784/
 
Well having considered the last few posts, I am off to get the best odds for a 2012 Federal Election.
What is happening in OUR country, just cannot continue.
joea
 
joea said:
Well having considered the last few posts, I am off to get the best odds for a 2012 Federal Election.
What is happening in OUR country, just cannot continue.
joea
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No matter how bad it gets, Gillard is extremely tenacious. While she remains leader, I don't think we will be lucky enough to get to the polls early. If 2pp went to 80:20, I reckon she would still hang on.

However, if Rudd does make a comeback, he may see the necessity of giving the people a say over carbon tax with an early election and might spare labor a complete wipeout.

Also, if Gillard is pushed for Rudd, I think it is highly likely she would resign to force an election and deny him leadership for the second time. My thoughts only...:eek:
 
sails said:
No matter how bad it gets, Gillard is extremely tenacious. While she remains leader, I don't think we will be lucky enough to get to the polls early. If 2pp went to 80:20, I reckon she would still hang on.

However, if Rudd does make a comeback, he may see the necessity of giving the people a say over carbon tax with an early election and might spare labor a complete wipeout.

Also, if Gillard is pushed for Rudd, I think it is highly likely she would resign to force an election and deny him leadership for the second time. My thoughts only...:eek:
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I think your thoughts are very, very spot on.
I think the leader that is put in to replace Gillard, will be to save a Labor base.

I also think if the GG goes missing, we will find her in a back shed at Gillards residence.:D
joea
 
Julia said:
She made some really bizarre remarks this morning in an interview with Fran Kelly, all to do with the quite long ago suicide of Greg Wilton who was apparently a friend of hers.
She's not up to the job at all. The irony of the Slipper situation is that he was probably the best speaker for some time.
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+1
Slipper seems to be the only one who can tell her to sit down and shut up. The rest of Australia has tried, but she doesn't listen.
 
Julia is clearly beating 1 vote Tony in the preferred PM polls...and is according to many, the worst Labor PM in a 100 years...and yet she's beating that idiot Abbott.

WTF?
 
It doesn't matter how unpopular Tony Abbott is. The electorate just wants to slam a boot firmly up federal Labor's bum and kick it into orbit.

It will do so at the next election.
 
So_Cynical said:
Julia is clearly beating 1 vote Tony in the preferred PM polls...and is according to many, the worst Labor PM in a 100 years...and yet she's beating that idiot Abbott.

WTF?
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If you go back to the first post on this thread, when I went down to Canberra to twist a few nervous nellies necks in the Liberal Party to vote for Tony Abbott as Leader, you will find that the mood is not dissimilar to now.

His perception in the electorate is driven by a left wing media and constant union and other movers in the public trough of entitlement.

Tony is a decent man, with a family, who has visited over 70% of all workplaces in Australia. He is widely respected by Australians and when it comes to the only poll that matters, like the Liberal Party, Australians will elect him.

They will do so, because he offers hope for the future, will fight for all Australians, and be constant and assertive in Australia's interests.

It's a no-brainer.

gg
 
Garpal Gumnut said:
His perception in the electorate is driven by a left wing media and constant union and other movers in the public trough of entitlement.
gg
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Thats right, all this rubbish about him being negative never fails to amaze me, the majority of Australians are negative about the Labor party and with good reason.

He conducts himself properly in Parliament while Gillard is a national embarrassment, I'm beginning to think she is trying to be like Keating with wit and style. she has neither.
 
MrBurns said:
Thats right, all this rubbish about him being negative never fails to amaze me, the majority of Australians are negative about the Labor party and with good reason.

He conducts himself properly in Parliament while Gillard is a national embarrassment, I'm beginning to think she is trying to be like Keating with wit and style. she has neither.
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That union stooge Greg Combet assumes a comedy role in his sledging of Abbott.

For a bloke touted as a possible future leader, the former ACTU boss had made little impact. But there he was on Thursday, striding to the Dispatch Box and flicking the switch to vaudeville.

Describing Abbott's campaign as "complete and utter rubbish, nonsense, false, a fraud and a fabrication", Combet told the House: "He has predicted the death of Gladstone, the death of the Latrobe Valley, the death of Portland, the death of the Hunter region, Illawarra, Kwinana, Whyalla, and the story goes on.

"It reminds you a bit of the old Lucky Starr song from the 1960s, I've Been Everywhere."

At which point Combet burst into song: "Cabramatta, Parramatta, Wangaratta, Coolangatta - but the punchline is: 'Everywhere is doomed, man'."
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http://www.couriermail.com.au/ipad/...-and-his-roonism/story-fn6ck620-1226380967097
 
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