Importing Migrant Workers

[tigerboi]

Re: SO WE CANT FILL 1700 JOBS?

Couldn't agree more TB that it would be preferable that Australians get first chance at any of these jobs BUT I can't seriously believe that a truck driver could even go close to comparing their skill set and responsibility with that of a doctor.

Until we see 5 year university courses and another couple of years of supervised on the job training before they allow a truck driver to operate by himself then some of us might disagree with your overrated perception of a roadtrain drivers skillset.

As someone who just had spinal surgery my neurosurgeon dr darwish is from JORDAN
(we spoke about petra while i was still awake,so want to go see it.amazing place)

i understand the skill set required & by his reports he did a great job & i agree with him

despite the horrible post op pain,my gp nino sa-cordeiro is from GOA whe has been here

over 45 years & is an unsung hero in his field of expertise,the medical folk have my utmost respect.

as for being a professional driver such as a triple road train driver just pointing out it takes alot longer than most think to require the skills to drive such trucks nothing overated when you consider what sort of coin is on offer.

to go from a car licence to a roadtrain/b double licence means going thru the licence classes C,LR,MR,HR,HC,MC...plus all the modern requirements such as a fatigue
management 14 hour logbook,C.O.R. chain of responsibility etc

different skills of course but a tafe course wont get you a job even shuffling papers,dont forget also transport & logistics is a well sought after career these days,not so much the
driving side which is why alot of the eastern guys have gone west.cheers...tb

here is a video...

 

[numbercruncher]

No doubt Gina will have guys with international licences and English translation books in hand driving around your roadtrains very soon ....

 

[jank]

why the world is best ran on libertarian ideologies - so that everyone can best decide for themselves

That is not libertarian-ism, that is anarchy for rich people, pure and simple. You don't have a clue what libertarian-ism is really about. You are looking at it from a 2d perspective only. Again read up on objectism if you are really interested in what its about, other wise your just a troll!

Oh but your 22 and you have it all figured out more so than all the brilliant minds that have lived on this earth before. Tell me who are your idols, where do you get your theories from?

 

[tigerboi]

No doubt Gina will have guys with international licences and English translation books in hand driving around your roadtrains very soon ....

that would be her wish however you cant drive a heavy vehicle on an international licence

just like overseas doctors coming here to work,they have to be trained to our regulations

anyhow it will be interesting to see the final outcome.

the workers coming here will be doing the unskilled stuff,hammer this sweep that...tb

 

[DB008]

Re: SO WE CANT FILL 1700 JOBS?

to go from a car licence to a roadtrain/b double licence means going thru the licence classes C,LR,MR,HR,HC,MC...plus all the modern requirements such as a fatigue
management 14 hour logbook,C.O.R. chain of responsibility etc

tigerboi, l went from C to HR in 1 go a number years ago (in WA).

 

[numbercruncher]

the workers coming here will be doing the unskilled stuff,hammer this sweep that...tb

Oh reeeely - didnt know thats the idea of a 457 ......

 

[Calliope]

Three of the biggest ratbags on the extreme left and right oppose EMAs;

Doug Cameron
Bob Katter
Pauline Hanson.

That says it all. End of Story.

Miners warn of 'racist innuendo' as Pauline Hanson backs Doug Cameron on jobs for Aussies

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...jobs-for-aussies/story-fn9hm1gu-1226375682546

 

[Starcraftmazter]

That is not libertarian-ism, that is anarchy for rich people, pure and simple. You don't have a clue what libertarian-ism is really about. You are looking at it from a 2d perspective only. Again read up on objectism if you are really interested in what its about, other wise your just a troll!

No, you're a troll. Anarchy is the absence of government, libertarianism is a minimal central government. I am not advocating no government. Stop your nonsense at once.

 

[Calliope]

Dig a little deeper and they will come across The White Australia Policy.

 

[numbercruncher]

What a load of absolute trollip - we have something like 180 thousand immigrants a year and because people dont like Rineharts little 457 scam they start pulling out all the punches -

Can imagine how bad itll get if Rinehart gets to own even more of the media ....

 

[Starcraftmazter]

Dig a little deeper and they will come across The White Australia Policy.

White Australia policy implies it's ok to import white immigrants; I don't think anyone gives a crap about their race/ethnicity - rather the fact that they are coming here.

Pretty stawman to be honest - just what you'd expect from miningtards.

 

[numbercruncher]

Its easy to convince many when your rich enough huh .....

 

[Calliope]

White Australia policy implies it's ok to import white immigrants; I don't think anyone gives a crap about their race/ethnicity - rather the fact that they are coming here.

Pretty stawman to be honest - just what you'd expect from miningtards.

You talk in riddles.

What's a "stawman"?
What's a "miningtard"? Google thinks you mean "miningnerd".

 

[jank]

Oh reeeely - didnt know thats the idea of a 457 ......

If you are on a 457 visa you must have qualifications and/or experience in a field as dictated by DIAC.

http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/skilled-workers/sbs/how-the-visa-works.htm

Oh but dont let the facts get in the way of a good ol whinge feast!

 

[jank]

No, you're a troll. Anarchy is the absence of government, libertarianism is a minimal central government. I am not advocating no government. Stop your nonsense at once.

But you are advocating no taxes at all! How can one pay for essential services like an army, police, courts, government etc if there are no taxes. You clearly have not thought it out.

Round and round we go!

 

[jank]

What a load of absolute trollip - we have something like 180 thousand immigrants a year and because people dont like Rineharts little 457 scam they start pulling out all the punches -

Can imagine how bad itll get if Rinehart gets to own even more of the media ....

180,000 a year yet we have 14 pages about 1,750 SKILLED workers for a max period of 3 years stay in Australia........ Em ok!

 

[jank]

White Australia policy implies it's ok to import white immigrants; I don't think anyone gives a crap about their race/ethnicity - rather the fact that they are coming here.

Pretty stawman to be honest - just what you'd expect from miningtards.

Do you know what Xenapohobia is, probably not as you dont know what Fascism, Communism, Libertarianism, etc... means.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenophobia

 

[Starcraftmazter]

You talk in riddles.

What's a "stawman"?
What's a "miningtard"? Google thinks you mean "miningnerd".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strawman_Argument

Miningtard is.....let us say, someone who who advocates the interests of the mining industry - which are also contrary to our national interests.

But you are advocating no taxes at all! How can one pay for essential services like an army, police, courts, government etc if there are no taxes. You clearly have not thought it out.

Round and round we go!

Because those services are offered by local and state governments. Jesus man, do you not know history at all? How do you think federal governments functioned before income tax?

Army is the only exception, but it is completely unnecessary to have a standing army - especially if your country is an island.

Do you know what Xenapohobia is, probably not as you dont know what Fascism, Communism, Libertarianism, etc... means.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenophobia

Xenophobia is a term coined by liberal blowhards, so that they could label anyone who disagrees with them a xenophobe - and not have to actually mount any reasonable, coherent argument. Kind of like "privilege".

 

[Calliope]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strawman_Argument

Oh, I thought you said "stawman"

Miningtard is.....let us say, someone who who advocates the interests of the mining industry - which are also contrary to our national interests.

So you're an antiminingtard...also against the national interests.

Xenophobia is a term coined by liberal blowhards, so that they could label anyone who disagrees with them a xenophobe - and not have to actually mount any reasonable, coherent argument. Kind of like "privilege".

Just like "miningtard" is a word coined by a certain ill-liberal blowhard so that he could label anyone who disagrees with him a "miningtard" - and not have to actually mount any reasonable, coherent argument.

 

[jank]

Because those services are offered by local and state governments. Jesus man, do you not know history at all? How do you think federal governments functioned before income tax?

Army is the only exception, but it is completely unnecessary to have a standing army - especially if your country is an island

Yet local and state governments would go bankrupt if ther werent recieving grants from Federal Government.
Last time Australia didnt have a standing army they were left completely exposed to Japan. I suppose its OK not to have a big army once the US have your back eh?
Sorry you hate them too.

SCN would like if everyone lived in a box and minded their own business. Very easy to be against something, much more difficult to be for something. We are seeing the proof of that here.

Xenophobia is a term coined by liberal blowhards, so that they could label anyone who disagrees with them a xenophobe - and not have to actually mount any reasonable, coherent argument. Kind of like "privilege".

If you read the article you would have learned that Xenophobia is actually a Greek word, you know those guys that lived 3,000 years ago that provided the basic foundation of western civilization. Anyway whine away..