So_Cynical
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You mean this post? from 15 months ago.
There doesn't seem to be an appropriate (egg on face) smiley in the default collection.
NBN Rollout Scrapped
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You mean this post? from 15 months ago.
There doesn't seem to be an appropriate (egg on face) smiley in the default collection.
Glen48
Money can't buy Poverty
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Once it is up and running the feds will be broke and need to sell it off at any cost.
So the tax payer will be left with the debt plus interest and no control over the service pricing.
Once it is up and running you need to ask yourself what does the taxpayer get in return does someone in Quiple who can down load Lady Gaga create an income other than sell burn copies Cd's to their mates.
At least you will be able to see how an economic hit men works the system online.
So the tax payer will be left with the debt plus interest and no control over the service pricing.
Once it is up and running you need to ask yourself what does the taxpayer get in return does someone in Quiple who can down load Lady Gaga create an income other than sell burn copies Cd's to their mates.
At least you will be able to see how an economic hit men works the system online.
So_Cynical
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Seriously Glen...i know Tanduay is cheap at less than 70 cents a bottle but please try and limit yourself to 1 bottle per day.
Glen48
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Ok I had one last night so please explain the benefits to the taxpayer and how they will get a return on their loot plus interest.
They do want to sell it, but I hope they don't.
If they do, then it would likely be through a float rather than a sale per se.
There will always be control over the service pricing, because it is required to be regulated by the ACCC through the Special Access Undertaking. The SAU (currently waiting for approval) covers a 30 year period and specifies that prices are not permitted to be increased at all for 5 years, and then for the next 25 years they cannot be increased by more than 0.5% of the cpi in any one year (and the permission cannot be held over). It also specifies that NBN Co cannot make a profit greater than bond-rate+3.5%. If they do, then they must lower their pricing to comply.
What does the country get in return? You can't think of any economic benefit for the business community in being able to access a decent broadband network? Well, you're probably right. This internet thing is probably just a passing fad anyway.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/1995/02/26/the-internet-bah.html
NBN charge users for access to the service. They charge enough to repay the Govt investment, plus the interest. Simple.
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Firstly I am on cable, not ADSL, so my speed is not untypical. I have measured it several times at different times and that would be about the average I got. My $15 rate is based on the fact that I have several Telstra services bundled, but I also have an additional discount that was offered to me as a special to retain my custom.
Right, so what makes you think that you won't get the same bundling discounts over the NBN? Currently, Telstra offer exactly the same bundle packages over ADSL, Cable and the NBN.
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Ha ha ha - a Labor government making a profit on one of their enterprises - good one NBNMyths!
You know what they say about people who live in glass houses.....
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Yes I do - their Labor party followers...
Keep up the good work NBNMyths - we need at least one believer.
One would have thought that everybody in Australia would know a NBN is being built.
But going to Cairns today, (68klms) I heard it 3 times, that one is being built.
A government commercial.
Its a bit like having a big sign on a FISH SHOP, then to have more signs to say "we sell fish and chips here".:headshake
joea
But going to Cairns today, (68klms) I heard it 3 times, that one is being built.
A government commercial.
Its a bit like having a big sign on a FISH SHOP, then to have more signs to say "we sell fish and chips here".:headshake
joea
In senate estimates a couple of weeks ago, the takeup rate of Kiama was given as 34%, and Willunga as 30%. These sites went live in October 2011, so that's a ~6 month period, although Telstra (with 50% market share) only started offering services in March 2012.
Putting that into perspective:
The takeup rate of ADSL in Australia was 3% after 18 months
The takeup rate of ADSL/ADSL2+ in Tasmania now is ~44% after 11 years.
The takeup rate of Optus cable internet in the footprint is ~20% after 10 years
The takeup rate of Verizon FiOS fibre optic internet (in the USA) is about 30% after 5 years.
The faster people take up the NBN, the sooner the Govt investment will be repaid from user revenue. That being the case, I would have though you'd be all for advertising to increase the speed of takeup?
Using your argument, I suppose Telstra shareholders should be berating them for advertising all of their services? After all, everybody in Australia knows that Telstra is a phone company. Therefore, any money they spend on advertising must surely be a waste.....
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It is a shameful waste of money on a technology that will be redundant in five years time.
Designed on the back of an envelope, on a tax payer paid flight, in business class seats, by two Labor ministers who have never had a proper job in their lives.
It is welfare for nerds.
And nobody in N.Queensland has heard of it, witnessed it's benefits nor used it, except on tax payer funded advertisements.
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How will it be redundant in 5 years? If it were to be redundant in such a short period of time I doubt Telstra would have installed fibre around South Brisbane.
So_Cynical
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Bollocks, utter bollocks... seriously what's the point in posting politically motivated, well worded rubbish with a content value of nothing. :disgust: why not comment on today's GDP numbers? perhaps you can somehow spin it to make the Coalition look good.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/bus...n-on-bullish-gdp/story-e6frg916-1226386561291
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