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NBNMyths said:
The difference is that I can back my claims with verifiable facts, and likewise show evidence of the Australian's (and the rest of News Ltd's) selective and misleading reporting on the NBN.

Can you do the same?
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Calliope said:
I suppose I could if I were an obsessive, but the NBN is not that important to me except for the waste of public moneys. My main interest here was pricking inflated egos. As an obsessive you will naturally want the last word. Go for it.
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I'll take that as a no then.
 
Calliope said:
I suppose I could if I were an obsessive, but the NBN is not that important to me except for the waste of public moneys. My main interest here was pricking inflated egos. As an obsessive you will naturally want the last word. Go for it.
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The amount of time your here i would be suprised if you payed any tax:D
 
Calliope said:
I suppose I could if I were an obsessive, but the NBN is not that important to me except for the waste of public moneys. My main interest here was pricking inflated egos. As an obsessive you will naturally want the last word. Go for it.
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Good work NBNMyths, you have pricked the biggest ego of them all.

By the way, I am intrigued as to what Calliope did in his working days. I am guessing a school teacher?
 
The NBN is a long way from finished.
No rush, I get quite a lot of enjoyment from reading this thread.
 
Conroy supporters? Some of us live in parts of the world where we see ourselves falling behind more and more. If Telstra isn't going to do anything then we know we won't get it. It isn't about Conroy. It's about infrastructure that will changes things, not some token crap that makes no difference.
 
We can't shut this thread down, it is the only one with credible posts, that supports the only government policy that hasn't imploded.
I see that Optus want a queens counsel to go through Telstras seperation proposal, to ensure they, the parasite, can use the doner untill the next doner(N.B.N) is born.IMO

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/bus...aration-proposal/story-fn91v9q3-1226243989622

The way it is going the parasites will still be blocking the proposal untill the next election. Yeh :D

And by the way Todster, you don't get lips like that by sucking lemons.LOL
 
Slightly off topic but i spent the weekend enjoying the Elvis festival at Parkes :) for those that don't know Parkes is a town of about 10000 people, that is approximately 360 KM west of Sydney...on the train trip from Sydney everybody's mobile service would drop out every time we were 3 or 4 minutes out of what ever town we had just passed, Bathurst, Orange etc.

And this is just out the back of Sydney, the bush has sub standard communication services....even a text sent from my mum standing next to me (in Parkes) took 14 minutes to arrive, the NBN will go along way toward levelling the (quality of life) playing field for all Australians wherever they live.
 
I just want to explain a couple of things. I had satellite, but now have ADSL.

If you have to have broadband, then satellite is a poor mans version.

With my satellite plan, its lopsided.e.g. (1G paid/6G free and this increases at same ratio.)... "TAKE WHAT YOU GET".

To improve my plan, I had to apply for (satellite/NBN), but on receiving approval would be given 7 satellite operators to choose from.
To get approval I had to apply to NBN, who then told me I had to ring two telco's to confirm why I could not get broadband, and record the information and pass it on them.
Well I rang telstra and explained my call, and explained, that both houses on either side of me had copper broadband. The answer was "you are too far from the exchange, and you have no wireless coverage"?
I have a phone with AAPT(now iiNet). So I also explained the above to them which they basically confirmed, BUT said, "why don't we apply for a connection."?

NBN sent me the paper work that confirmed my application for a new plan( which incidentally is to replace my 1200mm fibreglass dish, and ipstar modem with all costs going to taxpayer).AGAIN!!!

In the mean time, iiNet processed the application, kept me up to date, sent a BobLITE 4 socket, wireless modem, fired me up on broadband, all in 14 days.

I have not had time yet to cancel the application to NBN yet, as I am busy cleaning up the empty HAHN Super Dry 3.5 bottles near my patio from the celebrations.

I have joined the happy family of iiNET, who incidentally have just absorbed Internode.

So there is another happy chappy from the Daintree area.
p.s. this is not a joke, but the facts.
cheers joea
 
joea said:
I just want to explain a couple of things. I had satellite, but now have ADSL.

If you have to have broadband, then satellite is a poor mans version.

With my satellite plan, its lopsided.e.g. (1G paid/6G free and this increases at same ratio.)... "TAKE WHAT YOU GET".

To improve my plan, I had to apply for (satellite/NBN), but on receiving approval would be given 7 satellite operators to choose from.
To get approval I had to apply to NBN, who then told me I had to ring two telco's to confirm why I could not get broadband, and record the information and pass it on them.
Well I rang telstra and explained my call, and explained, that both houses on either side of me had copper broadband. The answer was "you are too far from the exchange, and you have no wireless coverage"?
I have a phone with AAPT(now iiNet). So I also explained the above to them which they basically confirmed, BUT said, "why don't we apply for a connection."?

NBN sent me the paper work that confirmed my application for a new plan( which incidentally is to replace my 1200mm fibreglass dish, and ipstar modem with all costs going to taxpayer).AGAIN!!!

In the mean time, iiNet processed the application, kept me up to date, sent a BobLITE 4 socket, wireless modem, fired me up on broadband, all in 14 days.

I have not had time yet to cancel the application to NBN yet, as I am busy cleaning up the empty HAHN Super Dry 3.5 bottles near my patio from the celebrations.

I have joined the happy family of iiNET, who incidentally have just absorbed Internode.

So there is another happy chappy from the Daintree area.
p.s. this is not a joke, but the facts.
cheers joea
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I coudn't put my finger on it but now it comes clear you drink mid strength:D
 
joea said:
I just want to explain a couple of things. I had satellite, but now have ADSL.

If you have to have broadband, then satellite is a poor mans version.

With my satellite plan, its lopsided.e.g. (1G paid/6G free and this increases at same ratio.)... "TAKE WHAT YOU GET".

To improve my plan, I had to apply for (satellite/NBN), but on receiving approval would be given 7 satellite operators to choose from.
To get approval I had to apply to NBN, who then told me I had to ring two telco's to confirm why I could not get broadband, and record the information and pass it on them.
Well I rang telstra and explained my call, and explained, that both houses on either side of me had copper broadband. The answer was "you are too far from the exchange, and you have no wireless coverage"?
I have a phone with AAPT(now iiNet). So I also explained the above to them which they basically confirmed, BUT said, "why don't we apply for a connection."?

NBN sent me the paper work that confirmed my application for a new plan( which incidentally is to replace my 1200mm fibreglass dish, and ipstar modem with all costs going to taxpayer).AGAIN!!!

In the mean time, iiNet processed the application, kept me up to date, sent a BobLITE 4 socket, wireless modem, fired me up on broadband, all in 14 days.

I have not had time yet to cancel the application to NBN yet, as I am busy cleaning up the empty HAHN Super Dry 3.5 bottles near my patio from the celebrations.

I have joined the happy family of iiNET, who incidentally have just absorbed Internode.

So there is another happy chappy from the Daintree area.
p.s. this is not a joke, but the facts.
cheers joea
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I don't doubt the above, and I'll give you some explanations on some of the points:

Yes, satellite is a "last resort" broadband technology. The major issues are latency and reliability. That's why the NBN is only 3% satellite.

Yes, iiNet are great. I'm currently with them for my phone and ADSL (with a BoB2), and they have always been helpful.

The current NBN satellite service is only interim, and has a limited capacity. It's really just a replacement for the old Aust Broadband Guarantee. That's why they make you jump through hoops to get it. They only want to offer it to people who really don't have any other option until the new high capacity satellites are launched.

Once the proper NBN satellite service comes online in ~2015, the process of being connected will be essentially the same as connecting any other form of NBN service, which is essentially the same as what you went through getting ADSL through iiNet. It will also have the same pricing as a 12/1 NBN service provided over either wireless or fibre. No need to go through multiple people, you'll just contact your ISP and request a connection.

Distance is the enemy of ADSL. The Telstra operator would just have a guide in front of them that would say "in your location, ADSL doesn't work". There is (as you discovered) a way for them to test/override that guideline if you're close to the cutoff limit. I'd be pretty sure that while your ADSL may be better than satellite in some ways, at the distance you must be from the exchange you will be getting a very slow ADSL service, and the upcoming NBN wireless or sat will almost certainly be faster (although in the case of sat have a longer lag time).

For curiosity sake, go to http://www.speedtest.net and post your result.
 
NBNMyths said:
For curiosity sake, go to http://www.speedtest.net and post your result.
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I would try a few different servers at Speedtest to see which gives the best results. About 8 months ago I used Speedtest to check my Telstra cable speed and was completely p***** off when I never got more than 2 or 3 Mbps, when tested many times over several weeks at different times during the day. I think the rated speed is 30 Mbps, although that isn't fixed for cable. I was using a Perth server, assuming that would be the best since I am in Perth. I almost switched to iinet adsl when someone suggested using a different server. Using Sydney and sometimes Melbourne, I was able to get up to 22 Mbps, which put me in the top 2 or 3% Australia wide.

Incidentally, Perth has given me 27.28Mbps just now, so there must have been some upgrades to local servers.

I must say I am happy getting that speed on 100Gb download limit all for $15pm (negotiated)
 

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