Will Craig Thomson finally give us some relief?

[noco]

The following is a pretty rational comment following the above Courier Mail article:



Noco, simple question to you: do you honestly believe that if the positions of of Ms Gillard and Mr Abbott were reversed, and the Libs held the minority government, and a Liberal member replicated Craig Thomson's situation, that Mr Abbott would behave any differently from the way Ms Gillard is behaving at present?

If you do think he would handle things differently, could you outline what you believe would be happening?


(And no, I am not in the slightest defending the government, just vainly trying for a bit of objectivity.)

Julia, you would have to ask Tony Abbott that question. I'm sorry, I don't know what he would do in a simliar situation.

I could pass an opinion and it may be completly different as to how Abbott would handle it.

The chances of the same senario happening would be, in my opinion, very remote.

 

[todster]

Julia, you would have to ask Tony Abbott that question. I'm sorry, I don't know what he would do in a simliar situation.

I could pass an opinion and it may be completly different as to how Abbott would handle it.

The chances of the same senario happening would be, in my opinion, very remote.

Noco will have no answers until Andrew Bolt releases his latest blog,but then again there could be an old Alan Jones podcast there somewhere he could reference.
I can read the paper and know what noco has typed before i log on.
Bless his blue heart

 

[noco]

Noco will have no answers until Andrew Bolt releases his latest blog,but then again there could be an old Alan Jones podcast there somewhere he could reference.
I can read the paper and know what noco has typed before i log on.
Bless his blue heart

Thanks for that sermon todster, perhaps you should tell me what JU-LIAR should do..........just keep telling the voters lies, lies and more lies just to hold on to power.

OMG, you are brainwashed arn't you?

 

[Calliope]

(And no, I am not in the slightest defending the government, just vainly trying for a bit of objectivity.)

That's what Gillard says too, but everyone knows she is a liar. It's hard to be objective about a bottom feeder like Thomson. Even his own union has asked the police to investigate his alleged criminal activities.

 

[Julia]

Even his own union has asked the police to investigate his alleged criminal activities.

Only, it seems, when they were forced to via the outrage of their members.
From a couple of articles in today's The Australian, there is also considerable intra-union enmity and factions playing out.

 

[noco]

Isn't this typical of these union heavy weight thugs intimidating Kathy Jackson.

I say "good on her for standing up to these t*^d>"........They as low as a rattle snakes belly.

BTW todster, this did not come from Bolta.



http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...g-thomson-affair/story-e6freooo-1226123180706

 

[joea]

Isn't this typical of these union heavy weight thugs intimidating Kathy Jackson.

I say "good on her for standing up to these t*^d>"........They as low as a rattle snakes belly.

BTW todster, this did not come from Bolta.


http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...g-thomson-affair/story-e6freooo-1226123180706

good one noco
joea

 

[Miss Hale]

Julia, you would have to ask Tony Abbott that question. I'm sorry, I don't know what he would do in a simliar situation.

I could pass an opinion and it may be completly different as to how Abbott would handle it.

The chances of the same senario happening would be, in my opinion, very remote.

It couldn't happen at all because Liberal polititions are not former union bosses like so many of the Labor ones are so the same scenario would not occur.

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

I really cannot see what all the fuss is about.

Union leaders have been rooting on the public purse in this country for at least a century, if not more.

Leave him alone. Let parliament sort it out.

gg

 

[Julia]

It couldn't happen at all because Liberal polititions are not former union bosses like so many of the Labor ones are so the same scenario would not occur.

The principle of the issue does not relate solely to the involvement of the union.
Plenty of other ways to steal or otherwise be dishonest.
Are you actually saying it's impossible that any Coalition member would ever be (a) dishonest, and/or (b) as unbelievably stupid as Mr Thomson has demonstrated himself to be?

I could possibly agree with the latter, but hardly the former.

 

[sptrawler]

The unions are very similar to sporting groups and other member based institutions, they rely on trust and common belief.
This in itself lends itself to abuse, there are very few that do not at some stage fall victim to misplaced trust and loyalty. Predatory people have a field day taking advantage of loose checking and blind faith of the membership.
Fortunatelly it is examples like these that make people more vigilant and unfortunatelly less trusting.
Also has lead to a huge loss of union membership, like the workers of today say "when Liberal is in, at least you know who the enemy is".

 

[noco]

And the plot thickens on the embattled Thomson.

What else don't we know at this stage.

Maybe it is just the tip of the iceberg.



http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...om-laborrand-hsu/story-e6freon6-1226124870701

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

Not allowing union leaders to live high off their union members contributions is un-Australian.

And not allowing union leaders to have a root at a brothel in between $300 meals and $500 bottles of wine is a capitalist plot to deny workers the right to have spent their union dues as they see fit.

This thread is degenerating in to an anti-union rant.

Leave the unions out of this.

Leave Craig Thomson to the parliament.

gg

 

[sptrawler]

Not allowing union leaders to live high off their union members contributions is un-Australian.

And not allowing union leaders to have a root at a brothel in between $300 meals and $500 bottles of wine is a capitalist plot to deny workers the right to have spent their union dues as they see fit.

This thread is degenerating in to an anti-union rant.

Leave the unions out of this.

Leave Craig Thomson to the parliament.

gg

Right on gg, if members are stupid enough to pay their dues without questioning where it is going, they deserve everything they get.
That also supports the theory that voters get the government they deserve.
Let the parliament sort out Craig Thomson and all you HSU members keep paying his bills, at least that will help the rest of us.LOL

 

[dutchie]

Not allowing union leaders to live high off their union members contributions is un-Australian.

And not allowing union leaders to have a root at a brothel in between $300 meals and $500 bottles of wine is a capitalist plot to deny workers the right to have spent their union dues as they see fit.

This thread is degenerating in to an anti-union rant.

Leave the unions out of this.

Leave Craig Thomson to the parliament.

gg

When you put it like that I almost feel sorry for them.

 

[Knobby22]

The unions are very similar to sporting groups and other member based institutions, they rely on trust and common belief.
This in itself lends itself to abuse, there are very few that do not at some stage fall victim to misplaced trust and loyalty. Predatory people have a field day taking advantage of loose checking and blind faith of the membership.
Fortunatelly it is examples like these that make people more vigilant and unfortunatelly less trusting.
".

That is an incisive comment sptrawler.
Labor has had many more cases than the Libs due to this type of thinking. Someone is caught doing something wrong and the people involved say he is part of my tribe and it would be traitorous to expose him/her. This lets the (often) psychopath continue.

The Libs on the other hand, if they sense weakness or faults will attack them, usually well before they get a chance to enter parliament. This is one of their great strengths.

 

[Miss Hale]

The principle of the issue does not relate solely to the involvement of the union.
Plenty of other ways to steal or otherwise be dishonest.
Are you actually saying it's impossible that any Coalition member would ever be (a) dishonest, and/or (b) as unbelievably stupid as Mr Thomson has demonstrated himself to be?

I could possibly agree with the latter, but hardly the former.

No I'm not saying that, I think it's quite possible for a coalition member to be dishonest and/or stupid, but the basis of this case involves the rorting of a union, an organisation intrinsicly linked with Labor and Labor only so it couldn't happen to a Coalition polititian.

 

[Calliope]

No I'm not saying that, I think it's quite possible for a coalition member to be dishonest and/or stupid, but the basis of this case involves the rorting of a union, an organisation intrinsicly linked with Labor and Labor only so it couldn't happen to a Coalition polititian.

That's right. I can understand Mr Thomson thinking he has been badly done by. He has only been following the time honored practice for union leaders to use their members' funds for their own nefarious activities.

It is not surprising that all the ex-union officials who now run the Labor government want to protect him. By their standards he has done nothing wrong.

 

[noco]

No I'm not saying that, I think it's quite possible for a coalition member to be dishonest and/or stupid, but the basis of this case involves the rorting of a union, an organisation intrinsicly linked with Labor and Labor only so it couldn't happen to a Coalition polititian.

Yes Miss Hale, I agree completly. It is not relevant to the coalition in any way and should have not be related.

 

[noco]

How will the unions or the Labor Party bail Thomson out of the tax debt which is looming over the blokes head?

The plot thickens.


http://blogs.news.com.au/couriermai...rmail/comments/thomson_taxes_labor_even_more/