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Dear Tony and elected Coalition representatives,

Knives down.

This is the main game,

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...ate-policy-today/story-e6frg6n6-1226011223441

Ms Gillard predicted would be a tough fight ahead with Opposition Leader Tony Abbott, saying he would immediately start a fear campaign and label the measure a "great big new tax''.
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Well Ms Gillard, it is a great big new tax and you and your party are liars of the highest order based given commitments your government was not going to introduce it in this term during last year's election campaign.

The following article from the ABC sums it up well.

http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/44426.html#comments

Using taxpayers' money to persuade the same taxpayers that they should acquiesce in releasing additional swathes of their incomes the government epitomises a nanny state. The Government is saying that its own wisdom is superior to that of its voters, in understanding the public's real interests.
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drsmith said:
It's a poor opposition that can't get a glove on a government that has effectively tripped over its own feet.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...illard-and-labor/story-fn59nqgy-1226025811272
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Unfortunately how true. I'm a liberal voter (usually) and will help on their booths in NSW on Saturday. I think there is something about Tony Abbott or his media presence that just doesn't sit well with so many Australians. We currently have a terrible federal government proposing a carbon tax on our industries that will further hampen our international competitiveness and cost jobs, yet the Lib's seemed to have let the debate slide towards Labor spin about compensation for households. I'm sure Tony Abbott is a good bloke etc etc but I seriously doubt if he will ever lead the coalition to victory. What a travesty of non leadership by John Howard that he couldn't see his days were numbered and 'annoint' Peter Costello, if that had been done I think our nation and the coalition would be in a better place now:2twocents
 
pointr said:
I think there is something about Tony Abbott or his media presence that just doesn't sit well with so many Australians. We currently have a terrible federal government proposing a carbon tax on our industries that will further hampen our international competitiveness and cost jobs, yet the Lib's seemed to have let the debate slide towards Labor spin about compensation for households. I'm sure Tony Abbott is a good bloke etc etc but I seriously doubt if he will ever lead the coalition to victory. What a travesty of non leadership by John Howard that he couldn't see his days were numbered and 'annoint' Peter Costello, if that had been done I think our nation and the coalition would be in a better place now:2twocents
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Gees mate ... you read my mind exactly. :)
 
pointr said:
Unfortunately how true. I'm a liberal voter (usually) and will help on their booths in NSW on Saturday. I think there is something about Tony Abbott or his media presence that just doesn't sit well with so many Australians. We currently have a terrible federal government proposing a carbon tax on our industries that will further hampen our international competitiveness and cost jobs, yet the Lib's seemed to have let the debate slide towards Labor spin about compensation for households. I'm sure Tony Abbott is a good bloke etc etc but I seriously doubt if he will ever lead the coalition to victory. What a travesty of non leadership by John Howard that he couldn't see his days were numbered and 'annoint' Peter Costello, if that had been done I think our nation and the coalition would be in a better place now:2twocents
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Great summary, pointr. You're so right. John Howard did the nation a great disservice in not honouring his agreement with Costello.
 
Julia said:
Great summary, pointr. You're so right. John Howard did the nation a great disservice in not honouring his agreement with Costello.
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You may be right but Costello was never popular with the general public.

The best option for the coalition is Turnball. The fact is the Liberals are too far to the right for most Australians and MT at least represents a more small L Liberal who would be more palatable to the majority of Australians.
 
Intrinsic Value said:
...The best option for the coalition is Turnball. The fact is the Liberals are too far to the right for most Australians and MT at least represents a more small L Liberal who would be more palatable to the majority of Australians.
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Trouble is that Turnbull appears more closely aligned to labor than the libs so there really is no point. Perhaps Turnbull should become alp leader as he would probably fit in there better with his beliefs especially on the climate change ripoff.
 
sails said:
Trouble is that Turnbull appears more closely aligned to labor than the libs so there really is no point. Perhaps Turnbull should become alp leader as he would probably fit in there better with his beliefs especially on the climate change ripoff.
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Turnbull is so deep throat.

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It's laughable to believe that Turnbull is the silver bullet for Coalition success. Now if you want to talk Turnbull as leader of the ALP, yes we can have that conversation.

As the nation drifts further to the far Left with every passing day, even the Labor caucus is worried. Communism is a failed economic system. Abbott is on their tail, and they're not liking it.

The drovers dog would win the next election.

Watch Question Time today. You'll be gobsmacked by the flat refusal by the PM and Greg Combet to answer a single question on the carbon tax. Just smear and union-style thuggery.

They are ramming this through before the Greens come to Senate power in July.
 
Logique said:
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Watch Question Time today. You'll be gobsmacked by the flat refusal by the PM and Greg Combet to answer a single question on the carbon tax. Just smear and union-style thuggery.

They are ramming this through before the Greens come to Senate power in July.
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Incredibly, this being a major new tax, they are determined to ram it through before the much vaunted Tax Summit which has now been delayed until October! They become more illogical every day. The mutterings of discontent from business are becoming louder.
 
Logique said:
It's laughable to believe that Turnbull is the silver bullet for Coalition success. Now if you want to talk Turnbull as leader of the ALP, yes we can have that conversation.

As the nation drifts further to the far Left with every passing day, even the Labor caucus is worried. Communism is a failed economic system. Abbott is on their tail, and they're not liking it.

The drovers dog would win the next election.

Watch Question Time today. You'll be gobsmacked by the flat refusal by the PM and Greg Combet to answer a single question on the carbon tax. Just smear and union-style thuggery.

They are ramming this through before the Greens come to Senate power in July.
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You sound like you are from the looney far right with these sort of comments.

Only a supporter of the far right would liken the ALP to communists or exteme left wingers.

Get a grip the present government is a pretty conservative Labor government by any measure.
 
Let's see,
a former employee of ex-communists, with an avowed socialist background, flanked by a former trade union official, in a government where the Greens call the shots.

All very conservative. IV you need to get a grip, on the facts.
 
Logique said:
Let's see,
a former employee of ex-communists, with an avowed socialist background, flanked by a former trade union official, in a government where the Greens call the shots.

All very conservative. IV you need to get a grip, on the facts.
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And you forgot the Fabian connections...:D

Found this with a google search:
In the run-up to the 2007 Australian elections, then ALP deputy leader Gillard was the centre of controversy, after then Federal Treasurer, Peter Costello exposed her past ties to to a Communist Party of Australia linked organisation, Socialist Forum.

Initially Gillard admitted her association, but played it down.
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More here: http://centurean2.wordpress.com/2010/11/17/julia-gillardfabian-prime-minister-of-australia/
 
Intrinsic Value said:
Only a supporter of the far right would liken the ALP to communists or exteme left wingers.

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Yep most of the policy is quite RW for Labor, certainly don't see to many socialist policy positions everyone keep harping on about.

Gillard wont even support gay marriage, but some how she is a leading member of the Fabian..........
 
Logique said:
It's laughable to believe that Turnbull is the silver bullet for Coalition success. Now if you want to talk Turnbull as leader of the ALP, yes we can have that conversation.

As the nation drifts further to the far Left with every passing day, even the Labor caucus is worried. Communism is a failed economic system. Abbott is on their tail, and they're not liking it.
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I suppose the far left can appear to look like the centre when your viewing it from the far right.

Its not the far left...its the centre left and centre, Turnbull appeals to the centre that's why 1 vote Tony got the extra vote...Tony and his supporters only appeal to the far right.
 
IFocus said:
Gillard wont even support gay marriage, but some how she is a leading member of the Fabian..........
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Um, what is the connection?
And Ms gillard doesn't even appear to support any kind of marriage if her own status is any guide.
 
She'll marry Penny Wong with Bob Brown as MC if this government goes full term.

Sorry,

Couldn't resist,

Nearly 1-too many Coopers. :D:D
 
I've consistently supported Abbott over Turnbull,
but was less than impressed by the limp-wristed defense of the everyday working Australians who took a peaceful protest to Canberra.

Strips should have been torn off anyone who dared to call these people 'extremists', or worse 'deniers', a filthy smear with it's holocaust overtones. And why so sheepish over the media beat up about placards?

Tony do you have any staff at all? Any researchers? John Howard was called Satan, and burnt in effigy. What about the G8 and G20 protestors, and violence and disorder they brought? Where was the pious breast-beating of Brown and Gillard then?

Golden opportunity on the 7:30 Report - wasted. Gillard would not have sat back so passively.
 
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