Schapelle Corby - Innocent or Guilty?

[Garpal Gumnut]

The rubbish espoused by those not having a clue is very disappointing.

Having studied this case very close there is no doubt in my mind that the conviction and confinement of Schapelle Corby will go down one day as one of the very great travasties of justice

Could again direct you to some texts but feel sure some do not want to know the truth. No effort required to just go along with the fairy tales.

Do not even know why I popped in to check the latest views.

The other reason why I hesitate is that any words on here will be taken in by authorities of other jurisdictions to Corby's detriment.

Yep, the thread should be shut down, it is an absolute embarassement.

No chance.
The girl has been judged.
Who takes a boogie board to Bali anyway?
When they don't boogie???


BUT, 20 years incarceration for being a mule while Indonesian officials syphon gazillions from their own peasants and the world and get nada is not cool.

Here we go again, all your fault Nun, oh hooded one.

We will now have to suffer humourless bad-spelling bogans for another 3 months.

I hasten to add I include neither you nun, explod or kennas in that, but the snags are uncovered and the flies will collect.

gg

 

[nunthewiser]

Geezus GG why do you keep posting here m8?

look at all the arguments it causes everytime this thread gets bumped up

 

[trainspotter]

Hi,

I recently went to bali, i did not take any ganja with me , i had a great time and questioned a few of the locals in regards to corby........ they reckon she lives like a queen over there and is often spotted out and about outside the jail walls on a regular basis as she seems to be able to cover the "incidentals" that allow such excursions.

While i was there i saw trainspotter at a shopping centre, he looked like he was having a good time also.

Moral of the story........ dont take ganja to bali and you may have a good time too.

Yours sincerely

A pot stirring nun

It feels so long ago nun that I had almost forgotten seeing you there in the Discovery Mall in Kuta. I think I saw Schapelle there shopping also but I might have been under the influence of the broadleaf entertainment plant at the time and hallucinating. :kiffer:

OR I was just massively hungover from Arak and Bintang. Either way it is pretty damn obvious NOT to take that much into Bali in a boogie board bag. They carry very large machine guns over there.

Bali's police chief, Inspector General Hadiatmoko, has issued tough orders to officers.
"The police have to act firmly and, if necessary, shoot on sight if perpetrators try to escape arrest," he told the Jakarta Globe newspaper.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/tr...r-bali-robberies/story-e6frezi0-1225997572577

 

[nunthewiser]

i saw her on tuesday.

she did not have any dope on her.

probably a good thing given the current penaltys for that sort of stuff.

good on her

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

i saw her on tuesday.

she did not have any dope on her.

probably a good thing given the current penaltys for that sort of stuff.

good on her

nun, mate, where did you see her, St. Kilda Beach ??

I do not think you have seen her. This appears to be a strategy, bro, to cause her cause to rocket cos you think she is innocent.

If you have been to Bali, can you answer this question.

What is the Indonesian word for "flush" in the dunnies of all Garuda airplanes?

This and a number of other questions about your involvement in this affair need to be answered.





gg

 

[trainspotter]

If you have been to Bali, can you answer this question.

What is the Indonesian word for "flush" in the dunnies of all Garuda airplanes?


gg

"Dua puluh tahun penjara untuk boogie penuh obat"

Roughly translates to:-

"20 years jail for boogie board full of drugs"

I noticed on my last trip to the Island of the Gods that the machine gun toting Perjabat Immigrasi were not as noticeable at the airport either. No more lining up whilst they lick the one and only rubber stamp to rub on your passport for all 300 people on board the plane whilst a crazy eyed, brown shirt stares at you looking for a nervous twitch.

They now have TWO rubber stamps.

When caught just repeat this mantra:- "Korup resmi untuk membayar oleh sebab itu saya bisa pergi secara gratis silahkan"

Roughly translates to:-

"I need a corrupt official to bribe so I can go free please."

 

[explod]

The drugs found in Corby's bag at the time would have cost someone in Australia $32,000, in Indonesia about $4,500

GG and Nunn, have you read "Schapelle The facts, the evidence, the truth" by Tony Wilson 2008, New Holland Publishers.

Prepared to send either of you my copy if you pm.

Cheers on this cosy Saturdy.

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

The drugs found in Corby's bag at the time would have cost someone in Australia $32,000, in Indonesia about $4,500

GG and Nunn, have you read "Schapelle The facts, the evidence, the truth" by Tony Wilson 2008, New Holland Publishers.

Prepared to send either of you my copy if you pm.

Cheers on this cosy Saturdy.

Sorry explod, I've made up my mind on her case on the probabilities vs reasonable doubt, etc. and it would be a waste of time, but I respect your right to have a view to the contrary. I feel comfortable with my decision.

gg

 

[explod]

Sorry explod, I've made up my mind on her case on the probabilities vs reasonable doubt, etc. and it would be a waste of time, but I respect your right to have a view to the contrary. I feel comfortable with my decision.

gg

You did not answer the question gg.

Have you read it?

Tony did the beat here in Melbourne as a crime reported years ago when I was a young Sgt. He and the book is spot on and accurate. He in no way knew of Corby till some time after she was arrested and only intereviewed her once which was during the court case.

Reasonable doubt is a conclusion based on available facts. What was widely averrred in the popular press was amazingly way off course.

I would pay the postage.

 

[nulla nulla]

I'm not surprised this thread resurfaced. Latest comment in the media is that Schapelle set her own hair on fire. The article didn't seem to generate much interest and the mainstream network media dogs didn't run with it.

As stated previously, she was apprehended, tried, convicted and sentenced through the legal system of an independent sovereign country.

Australia is supposed to be putting a "prisoner exchange" procedure in place with Indonesia but it doesn't appear to be making any headway. Maybe both countries are suspicious that the other country will simply release any exchanged prisoners.

Notwithstanding, I think she has served more than enough time, particularly when you consider the leniency given to other criminals over there.

 

[explod]

I'm not surprised this thread resurfaced. Latest comment in the media is that Schapelle set her own hair on fire. The article didn't seem to generate much interest and the mainstream network media dogs didn't run with it.

As stated previously, she was apprehended, tried, convicted and sentenced through the legal system of an independent sovereign country.

Australia is supposed to be putting a "prisoner exchange" procedure in place with Indonesia but it doesn't appear to be making any headway. Maybe both countries are suspicious that the other country will simply release any exchanged prisoners.

Notwithstanding, I think she has served more than enough time, particularly when you consider the leniency given to other criminals over there.

Do not disagree with any of that.

It is the could not really care armchair critics of those that do not. I was aunaware of the contents of your first para., it was only that I noted the discusion here on ASF.

The justice system in Indo is grossly corrupt and wrong and we have a duty to lobby our Government to encourage them to bring about change.

Strewth there a over 200 million of them just stepping stones away.

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

I'm not surprised this thread resurfaced. Latest comment in the media is that Schapelle set her own hair on fire. The article didn't seem to generate much interest and the mainstream network media dogs didn't run with it.

As stated previously, she was apprehended, tried, convicted and sentenced through the legal system of an independent sovereign country.

Australia is supposed to be putting a "prisoner exchange" procedure in place with Indonesia but it doesn't appear to be making any headway. Maybe both countries are suspicious that the other country will simply release any exchanged prisoners.

Notwithstanding, I think she has served more than enough time, particularly when you consider the leniency given to other criminals over there.

Do not disagree with any of that.

It is the could not really care armchair critics of those that do not. I was aunaware of the contents of your first para., it was only that I noted the discusion here on ASF.

The justice system in Indo is grossly corrupt and wrong and we have a duty to lobby our Government to encourage them to bring about change.

Strewth there a over 200 million of them just stepping stones away.

In a way she is a victim, in that the masses of her convicted ilk in Australia, get away scot free and enslave generations in a cycle of drug abuse and dysfunctional families.

So, many, in Australia, see her as the epitome of a class of criminal who are getting their just deserts.

She is guilty, and is paying the price.

gg

 

[nunthewiser]

I do not think you have seen her. This appears to be a strategy, bro, to cause her cause to rocket cos you think she is innocent.

This and a number of other questions about your involvement in this affair need to be answered.


gg

lol

sorry for wasted post but that did deserve a giggle

 

[explod]

A witness has come forward to say the drugs were "put into Schapells bag by baggage handlers at Sydney Airport as they were concerned they wers under surveillance and would get caught with the drugs". Tonights 7 News.

It is hoped that court procedures in Indonesia are improved as a result of this dreadfull injustice.

And we need to hang our heads in shame that we did not fight harder for a fair go in this case.

 

[sails]

If it is true, I wonder why it took this witness so long to come forward. Why wait for this girl to rot in an Indonesian jail for seven years before giving evidence seems strange.

It's one thing to say she didn't get a fair go, but without this new evidence, it was a difficult thing to fight as she was found with the drugs in Indonesia.

Here's a link to an article from the Brisbane Times: Fresh Corby innocence claims

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

A witness has come forward to say the drugs were "put into Schapells bag by baggage handlers at Sydney Airport as they were concerned they wers under surveillance and would get caught with the drugs". Tonights 7 News.

It is hoped that court procedures in Indonesia are improved as a result of this dreadfull injustice.

And we need to hang our heads in shame that we did not fight harder for a fair go in this case.

so let's get this straight.

Sue, a clinical counsellor with a remote area health service, told Nine she had been in a relationship with a baggage handler in October, 2004 - the month Corby went to Bali.

She said her boyfriend told her about the day a fellow employee came to work with a "big bag" of cannabis.

Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/que...ence-claims-20110630-1gsre.html#ixzz1QkaZ6R3G

So,
Sue who is a remote area counsellor,
Was in a relationship with a baggage handler
Who told her
That he saw another baggage handler
Get the shakes and hide dope in a boogie board

She said her boyfriend told her about the day a fellow employee came to work with a "big bag" of cannabis.

"When the supervisor came down, he got the shakes," she said.

"The first thing he did was look for somewhere to hide it and he grabbed one of the bags that was behind him and hid it in there."

Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/que...ence-claims-20110630-1gsre.html#ixzz1QkbCQYHN

Many degrees of separation:

7yrs
Relationship
Boyfriend
Told her
He saw another

It must be true.

gg

 

[explod]

It has been well documented that there have been a number of drug-related arrests involving baggage handlers at Brisbane and Sydney airports.

In May 2005, as Schapelle and her bags were passing through Sydney Airport on October 8,2004, it was reported in a national newspaper that Qantas baggage handlers were smuggling 9.9kg (22lbs) of cocaine, worth $15 million, off an international flight from South America. It was alleged in a Sydney court that the baggage handlers were paid $300,000 to see that the cocain was removed before it reached Customs.

This so-called conincidence was described by Mercedes as "spooky" but despite some major publicity in Australia, it was given no credence in the Denpasar District Court, and failed to be of any help to Schapelle in her trial and ensuing appeals.

An equalling damning piece of evidence emerged in April 2006, when Sydney Federal Labor MP John Murphy revealed that two airport security cameras had been sabotaged on three occasions between early October 2004 and May 2005----again during the time when Schapelle and her bags were passing through Sydney Airport.

Mr Murphy said the cameras were located in the baggage area where Schapelle's bogie-board bag would have been. The cameras were the only security measure in that area at the time. He said he asked the Australian Government as early as May 2005 if the cameras had been tampered with, and it took 10 months to get an answer, with the then Federal Justice Minister Chris Ellison finally admitting it was true in April 2006.

'If the Government had given me an answer when I first raised this matter and had then been prepared to send a representative and give evidence at Schapelle's trial, then I believe this poor woman could well have been freed because of the serious doubt this would have raised,' Murphy said.

and it goes on, then in summary;

So in October 8, 2004, crucial security cameras were out of action and drugs were alledgedly being moved around Sydney Airport, while Schapelle and the others waited quietly to board their international flight.

from pp. 30 and 31 "Schapelle, the facts, the evidence, the truth" Tony Wilson, 2008

And I also go back to the fact that the cost of this amount of weed here would at the time have cost $34,000 and in Bali no more than $4,000

Having worked for a number of years as a Prosecutor I can tell you all that this case makes me absolutely steam. And gg I wonder sometimes at your motives.

Anyone who cannot be constructive in this matter towards this dreadful injustice ought, in my view, at least remain silent.

 

[nulla nulla]

so let's get this straight.



So,
Sue who is a remote area counsellor,
Was in a relationship with a baggage handler
Who told her
That he saw another baggage handler
Get the shakes and hide dope in a boogie board



Many degrees of separation:

7yrs
Relationship
Boyfriend
Told her
He saw another

It must be true.

gg

Yeah he just happened to come to work with 4 Kilo's of gunja and everyone else was cool with it because, like that is his religion man and everyone is entitled to practice their religious beliefs, right?
Anyrate after his umpteenth bong, he was starting to have a psychotic episode (the shakes) and some **** stirrer said "Hey man, the supervisor is comming".

Naturally he got a bit spazzed out and looked for somewhere to stash his daily needs. So he quickly vacuum sealed the back with his portable vacuum sealer and shoved the gunja in the first sizeable pack he could see (in his state of religious enhancement he didn't realize he was loading luggage on a plane bound for Bali).

And the rest is history.

Yeah right. When this thread kick started again I thought it was to announce that she was pregnant and was applying for paid maternity leave.

 

[explod]

Yeah he just happened to come to work with 4 Kilo's of gunja and everyone else was cool with it because, like that is his religion man and luggage on a plane bound for Bali).

.

9.9 kilos, not 4 and worth $34,000 ausie dollars in Australia and worth nearly ziltch in Bali.

Cummmoorn, pull the left one.

 

[nulla nulla]

9.9 kilos, not 4 and worth $34,000 ausie dollars in Australia and worth nearly ziltch in Bali.

Cummmoorn, pull the left one.

Probably only 4 kilo's sprooked up to 9.9kgs, unless of course he started with 10kgs and had only worked through 100grams at his morning....smoko...