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It is possible that he fell over, having slipped on some spilt porridge, hitting his head on the exercise bike.

Lets wait for the coroner's report before jumping to conclusions.

gg
 
Garpal Gumnut said:
It is possible that he fell over, having slipped on some spilt porridge, hitting his head on the exercise bike.

Lets wait for the coroner's report before jumping to conclusions.

gg
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Obviously ! As there is no video/security footage of aforementioned "tragedy" then I guess the cleaners will take the blame for not performing their duties and providing an unsafe workplace for these poor unfortunate souls to cohabitate in. The manufacturer of the exercise bike was unavailable for comment.
 
gooner said:
AWG

Accused is probably being tried for something else at the moment and thus that trial would be prejudiced if his name was released.
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that would be right, didnt stop one of the TV stations naming him,

didnt pay much attention, but they said he was a prisoner with a history of extreme violence and then named him, may have been charles thomas jonhson?

no-one I ever heard of

sounds like lots of people had reasons to want him dead
 
Garpal Gumnut said:
It is possible that he fell over, having slipped on some spilt porridge, hitting his head on the exercise bike.

Lets wait for the coroner's report before jumping to conclusions.

gg
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The bloke would probably still be alive if he had worn a helmet GG. He might have had a broken back or a busted pelvis etc...

I agree let's wait for the official report.
 
GumbyLearner said:
The bloke would probably still be alive if he had worn a helmet GG. He might have had a broken back or a busted pelvis etc...

I agree let's wait for the official report.
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An excellent point GL. Perhaps all the unused bicycle helmets littering garages and gullies about Australia could be donated to the exercise and weights' areas of our Correction Centres.

I would be interested to know if any porridge had been spilt prior to the incident. The floors in max are notoriously slippery. There is more to come out from the ICAC investigation.

But let us not pr-empt the official report. I am off to the barber this morning for a 2, as I may attend either the wake or the celebrations planned.

Let us hope nobody else slips over and bangs their noggin this week.

And its only Wednesday.

gg

gg
 
While not usually a fan of what Andrew Bolt writes, I thought his piece in today's Herald-Sun was outstanding. Anyone interested can find it online at breakfastpolitics.com.
 
Calliope said:
Here is the link. It should be compulsory reading for a bit of perspective.

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/...sun/comments/column_show_his_pretty_face_now/
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Thanks for the link Calliope. Great read that shows the current shift from truth to the idea of consumable fiction. From acceptable money spinning prime-time brutality to the humane management of image by officialdom.

I wish some great media intellectuals like Neil Postman were alive today to give a full critique of this nouveau criminal "battler" :rolleyes: genre.

Also, interesting that he includes a photo of Mad Dog Morgan at the beginning of his piece. Weirdly enough the coppers of that era also made a tobacco pouch out of his scrotum.

Sometimes it is hard to know who is telling porkies.

You can read it here on dinkumaussies.com

http://www.dinkumaussies.com/BUSHRANGERS/Daniel Morgan - Mad Dog Morgan.htm
 
Thanks brianwh and Calliope, and well said Andrew Bolt!

I empathize with the idealistic young police cadets who join the force and are prepared to put their lives on the line to try and make a difference for the rest of us, only to be spat on and sworn at by the trash who idolize scum like Williams and his kind. They get little or no appreciation from most of us yet they’re the first ones we turn to when we need help.

The government makes their jobs difficult in the extreme with all of the restrictions and red tape imposed on them and our disgusting tabloid media continually undermine them by crucifying them every time they make the slightest mistake. It’s a wonder we have a police force at all.

I’m glad Williams is dead and good riddance to the Moran family as well. The odour in Hell must be pretty bad at the moment with all of that scum being burnt.
 
Garpal Gumnut said:
I still reckon it was an accident and he slipped.

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Chris45 said:
Quite possibly so. Like porridge, scum is pretty slippery stuff and there must be a lot of it there in Barwon Prison. Bags of it in fact! :rolleyes:
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Unless the floor about the table is swabbed for porridge, I fear another grave miscarriage of justice in Victoria.

Where are the Human Rights darlings when they are needed?

gg
 
Miner said:
Any death is an unfortunate one.

A murder is always a murder - no matter who justifies it.

The murder by Carl Williams to his victims no matter even if they belonged to ganglord was crime and punishable.

Similarly the murder of Carl Williams is punishable under same context - no matter who did that and why.

If one sees any similarity between Godfather and Under Belly movies; recent Mafia murders within Moran Family, Police Connection it raises suspicion of having hush hush :

Has police deliberately planned him to be killed by another in mate because Carl knew too much ? Do not have to go too far :

Look at Jack Ruby's killing of Leigh Oswald after Kennedy murder.
Look at the killing of Indira Gandhy's assasinator (her own body guard) by other security men (Indian Ex PM)

Was Carl duped by police to get his confession and then ditch him considering no one will be sympathetic to a killer any way ? I would suspect his own lawyer to be under some sort of bribery arrangement. Everything happens in a corrupt society.

If there was a video why they waited until Carl got killed ?

If he was sensitive to get information why he was left with other people ?

Christine Dixon should be laughing as the focus of her problem from fire incidence will be moved to Carl Williams murder and in the event she would get a jail free card. Police (and admin) will now try to protect her from her lack of farsightness as a commissioner and hence no action for fire incidence.
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Nice post as always Miner worked in prisons (WA) as an apprentice nothing happens as an accident.
 
IFocus said:
Nice post as always Miner worked in prisons (WA) as an apprentice nothing happens as an accident.
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The fact remains that nobody on the Prison staff saw the incident.

CCTV evidence like DNA is increasingly under scrutiny.

The fellow who appeared in court had the following to say about the incident.

" Nuh "
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The third inmate was on the telephone.

I think people are jumping to too many conclusions too quickly.

There could be a very simple , innocent explanation for Mr.Williams' demise.

After tripping on the porridge and hitting his head on the exercise bike frame, he could have gone to his cell with a headache, taken a bex and just passed away.

gg
 
the latest doing the rounds in the local area (north west suburbs) - carl is alive and well, living under a new identity, having spent months undergoing all sorts of physical changes, but living in the local area. all cos of the info carl had on all levels of law & order.

conspiracy theorists are having a field day.
 
son of baglimit said:
the latest doing the rounds in the local area (north west suburbs) - carl is alive and well, living under a new identity, having spent months undergoing all sorts of physical changes, but living in the local area. all cos of the info carl had on all levels of law & order.

conspiracy theorists are having a field day.
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I must admit that is the considered opinion from some ex Melbourne insiders, at the Ross Island Hotel, here in Townsville.

Life is full of surprises.

gg
 
Garpal Gumnut said:
After tripping on the porridge and hitting his head on the exercise bike frame, he could have gone to his cell with a headache, taken a bex and just passed away.gg
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:D He didn't take his Bex with a nice cup of tea. It's deadly if you forget one of the vital three components. :rolleyes:
 
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