Women turning into Men?

[Happy]

I guess it's pretty difficult for most women - and men - to find the right balance.

I see good case for both male and female living separately; meeting briefly for sex and or other old fashioned rituals.

Surrogate pregnancy a must and probably 457 visa migrants could be used for that.

Aha, baby bonus can be split 3 ways.

 

[2020hindsight]

Well, I used to hide all my chocolates in the vegetable keeper; that kept one of them from finding them for ages.

Are we becoming more like men? No, but we are becoming more assertive which some men may interpret as being more aggressive.

1. wowo - just did a search of the cupboards used for cooking ingredients - and sure enough, the hidden chocolates that my wife and daughter seem to be sharing between them

2. thank goodness you're becoming assertive (as a sweeping generalisation) too prospector - imagine if you were heading the direction of Moslem women .. Why a women would voluntarily sign up there, I'll never understand (speaking of cans of worms)

 

[2020hindsight]

I see good case for both male and female living separately; meeting briefly for sex and or other old fashioned rituals.

Gotta feeling Alvin Toffler said things like that as well - Future Shock and all that ....
Man changes cities, changes jobs, changes wives, changes families
(changes nationalities? - as has already been discussed elsewhere)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvin_Toffler

The development Toffler believes may go down as this era's greatest turning point is the creation of wealth in outer space. Wealth today, he argues, is created everywhere (globalisation), nowhere (cyberspace), and out there (outer space). Global positioning satellites are key to synchronising precision time and data streams for everything from cellphone calls to ATM withdrawals. They allow Just In Time productivity because of precise tracking. GPS is also becoming central to air-traffic control. And satellites increase agricultural productivity through tracking weather, enabling more accurate forecasts.

Two major predictions of Toffler's - the paperless office and human cloning - have yet to be realized, not due to technological barriers but to sociological and politico-religious conditions.

:topic I heard talk today (on ABC) of a new currency called the QUID - Quasar Universal Intergallactic Dollar - for use in outer space (?)

 

[bunyip]

Interesting subject. To get out of the kitchen did women have to try to out swear and out drink the men, get road rage in traffic in trying to out do the female driver slur etc. That is the way a percentage appear to act to me. I was brought up to respect a lady. It is hard to respect a lot of female behaviour these days. I don't respect a lot of male behaviour either but why do women have to go to that extreme to prove a point.

Same here......I was brought up to respect females, but it's hard to respect the increasing numbers of women who are abandoning their femininity.
On the other hand, I find it equally difficult to respect the increasing numbers of men these days who are abandoning their masculinity.
Male cosmetics, male jewellery, male body waxing, pooncy clothes, male beauty treatment, male fragrances, men carrying handbags.....what a joke!

I admire male men and female women. Unfortunately, both are becoming harder to find due to increasing gender confusion among both sexes.

 

[Calliope]

Same here......I was brought up to respect females, but it's hard to respect the increasing numbers of women who are abandoning their femininity.
On the other hand, I find it equally difficult to respect the increasing numbers of men these days who are abandoning their masculinity.
Male cosmetics, male jewellery, male body waxing, pooncy clothes, male beauty treatment, male fragrances, men carrying handbags.....what a joke!

I admire male men and female women. Unfortunately, both are becoming harder to find due to increasing gender confusion among both sexes.

In recent years we have heard a lot about "metrosexuals". I didn't have a clue what they were. There is an avenue however we can turn to if we want the lowdown on frauds, hoaxers scam artists, charlatans, posers etc. I am referring of course to South Park. Metrosexuals are exposed in the episode "South Park is Gay"

 

[Wysiwyg]

Same here......I was brought up to respect females, but it's hard to respect the increasing numbers of women who are abandoning their femininity.

I noticed on an entertainment show which I viewed for 10 minutes that two women in an act were a diesel fitter and other a boilermaker.

I have a female relation whom completed an apprenticeship in a physically demanding role. She now has no interest in the trade and I am wondering if she and other women take on roles suited to males because they can and not because they want to. In my opinion she done some young lad with a career desire out of a hard to get apprenticeship.

I'm for women and men achieving their potential, life goals et cetera but please could employers think about the job requirements, physical needs and commitment to the work beyond the thought, "because we can".

 

[bunyip]

Oh dear. So do we need to get back into the kitchen, put on our aprons, and lovingly await the return of the lord and master?

Not just in the kitchen in your aprons, Julia - we expect you to spend some time in the bedroom in your sexy negligees as well!

 

[Wysiwyg]

I noticed on an entertainment show which I viewed for 10 minutes that two women in an act were a diesel fitter and other a boilermaker.

To add; they were their jobs in real life, not the act on t.v.

 

[Pivotonian]

... I think that the problem with SOME women is that they think they have to ACT like men just to get equality. Believe me they do not have to do that at all.

This comment is astounding in its ignorance and naivety.

Here's a simple test - think of all the very successful businesswomen you know of, and ask yourself honestly what characteristics most contributed to their success.

Its a man's world out there, created by men and set up to suit men. That makes it pretty tough if you're a woman.

 

[Sunder]

Talk about resurrecting the thread from the dead...

Has anything changed in the 2 years since the first post? If anything it's getting worse. Violent crime committed by females has risen 30% since then.

Commenting on the original article, even from reading her few paragraphs, I'm doubting the reason her partner left was that she earned more. She comes across as very smug and arrogant.

Not many men would put up with that, regardless of income levels.

 

[nioka]

There are some advantages for men with the women as tradesPERSONS. A bag of cement used to weigh 40kg. That meant it discriminated against women because they were only allowed to lift a maximum of 20kg. So now a bag of cement weighs 20kg. Not as efficient for the builder as the men now make twice the number of movements handling the same load and I've yet to see a female using bagged cement. The same applies to many other products.

All it proves is that women are different and not equal in the real sense.

 

[Prospector]

Actually I think it is OH&S requirements that no-one, even burly men should be required to lift more 20k's - not good for anyone. or dont you burly men get injured? Hmm, I think workcover might say something different.

 

[nioka]

Actually I think it is OH&S requirements that no-one, even burly men should be required to lift more 20k's - not good for anyone. or dont you burly men get injured? Hmm, I think workcover might say something different.

I'n my early days a bag of wheat weighed 180 lbs and was lumped by men. It was reduced to 140lbs for health and safety reasons. But then I cant recall any of the men I had working for me then taking quiche for their lunch either.

 

[gooner]

There are some advantages for men with the women as tradesPERSONS. A bag of cement used to weigh 40kg. That meant it discriminated against women because they were only allowed to lift a maximum of 20kg. So now a bag of cement weighs 20kg. Not as efficient for the builder as the men now make twice the number of movements handling the same load and I've yet to see a female using bagged cement. The same applies to many other products.

All it proves is that women are different and not equal in the real sense.

LOL. And men are'nt smart enough to carry two bags to make 40kg.........

 

[bunyip]

I'n my early days a bag of wheat weighed 180 lbs and was lumped by men. It was reduced to 140lbs for health and safety reasons. But then I cant recall any of the men I had working for me then taking quiche for their lunch either.

Ah yes, the old wheat bags that weighed 180 pounds - how well I remember lumping them when I was just 16 years old.
And if you put the grain through a hammer mill, it added about another 20 pounds to the weight of a bag of wheat.

That was back in the days when men were men instead of pansies.

 

[tech/a]

I employ some women in the field.
I do have to watch what crews they are in so as to be certain the work (Civil Construction) is within their capacity on a physical level.
They are excellent workers and admit they have a point to prove with the guys.
They are great plant operators.
They are paid the same as the guys.
They are pretty easy on the eye and have no problems with any of the guys---in fact they look after them. Big Brother style.(No not the house).

Onething they do better than the guys is
Taking care of detail!

 

[Wysiwyg]

I have a female relation whom completed an apprenticeship in a physically demanding role. She now has no interest in the trade and I am wondering if she and other women take on roles suited to males because they can and not because they want to. In my opinion she done some young lad with a career desire out of a hard to get apprenticeship.

Another present time example of women stepping into jobs that were always for men.
My dad had to go through internal company stages to get to his career position and this process took more than 10 years to complete including our family having to move to outback Queensland for 3 of those years. Nowadays they advertise publicly for interested persons (no gender bias) to take on the same positions with the same pay after a course for less than a year.

Nearing retirement, he is astonished at how many women over the last few years have stepped into male roles in his line of work and the ease of which it is allowed.

Is this another Government initiative? Where is the idea getting support and momentum from?

 

[Prospector]

Another present time example of women stepping into jobs that were always for men.
Nearing retirement, he is astonished at how many women over the last few years have stepped into male roles in his line of work and the ease of which it is allowed.

Is this another Government initiative? Where is the idea getting support and momentum from?

Oh my gosh, that is shocking! heaven help it that a WOMAN should do a job that was predestined for a man! What is this world coming to.

Do you guys know how fuddy duddy you all sound? Thank God for enlightened souls like Tech/A!

 

[Wysiwyg]

Oh my gosh, that is shocking! heaven help it that a WOMAN should do a job that was predestined for a man! What is this world coming to.

Do you guys know how fuddy duddy you all sound? Thank God for enlightened souls like Tech/A!

Well let's hope it doesn't get to the stage where the women want to step out the back to sort out any disagreements.

 

[bunyip]

Oh my gosh, that is shocking! heaven help it that a WOMAN should do a job that was predestined for a man! What is this world coming to.

Do you guys know how fuddy duddy you all sound? Thank God for enlightened souls like Tech/A!

LOL.....Thanks Prospector - that's just the kind of bite we were looking for!