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This 'Building the Revolution' scheme under the stimulus package will take the cake for this bureacrat-led rabble.

In this story, a builder is charging the government $1m to build a shed that local builders believe could be built for $130k odd.

www.theaustralian.com.au/in-depth/s...ion-being-rorted/story-fn56ulhe-1225842573296

So we have had:
- $91b sent to mums and dads to spend on household consumables generally made in China;
- the complete mismanagement of the insulation scheme, costing hundreds of millions and countless lives; and
- now these stories emerging of the building industry rorting this BER (love the meaningless jargon) for millions.

This is how our tax dollars are being frittered away? Is it too late to get into the building industry for my free hand-out?
 
This stimulus package has seen the building of things as silly as feature walls along the front verge of private schools.
 
Thanks to Maxine McKew, our school was able to demolish and rebuild male/female toilets for our youngest that John Howards minister thought it was acceptable for kindies to stand on the toilet seat to pull a chain and had an open sewer line on the hand basins.

They were over 50 years old.

This all done with the money that was to only build our school hall.

Now if we could negotiate additional works at no extra cost then any school how did not was lazy.
 
From what I've heard, the silly bit is building assembly halls etc at schools that already have adequate facilities, whilst not being able to build classrooms where more are needed.

Maybe it's just me, but my memories of school are that most learning happened in a classroom, not at an assembly.

How times have changed though, when I was at primary school and the school decided to build a pool it was done through donations from parents and other fundraising activities, not a government handout. Apparently there's now an extension of the gym / assembly hall (which are the same room) where that pool once was.:2twocents
 
Smurf1976 said:
How times have changed though, when I was at primary school and the school decided to build a pool it was done through donations from parents and other fundraising activities, not a government handout.
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I understand where you are coming from Smurf. My Nan baked pastries for the school I attended in the 1950's to build a school gym and classrooms. The same school that my Mum and her sisters attended. It was closed-down by the Kennett administration for property ("retirement") development. Great school too. The school won the Australian MTV National Rock Eistefodd Awards twice. Produced many footballers who played AFL at a National level. Even educated plebs to become doctors, scientists, engineers, accountants and notable academics...But hey that's life.... :( Don't dwell on the past, now ESL teachers are in high demand! :D
 
it's a bad joke... and with all the up-coming baby boom kids born since the baby bonus was initiated, all schools are going to need extra classrooms, updated facilities (toilets, like was mentioned above) and equipment... but no, they get a great lumping ugly hall, that takes up half of what was once outdoor play area. Now there's nowhere to learn, and nowhere to run around outside. fatter, dumber kids, that's the aim, as far as i see it... parents won't notice, too busy working three jobs to pay the tax required to repay the govt the cost of the darn thing.

Why halls? who cares? Our assembly when i was a kid was usually outside anyway, none of us suffered for it. (Less echo, for starters).

I can only assume that Kevin07 was hoping that hundreds of schools would 'name' their halls after him, like they do in America. Krudd Assembly, Krudd Hall, just another Ruddy Great Waste.

this govt makes me :mad: :banghead:
 
Bolle said:
it's a bad joke... and with all the up-coming baby boom kids born since the baby bonus was initiated, all schools are going to need extra classrooms, updated facilities (toilets, like was mentioned above) and equipment... but no, they get a great lumping ugly hall, that takes up half of what was once outdoor play area. Now there's nowhere to learn, and nowhere to run around outside. fatter, dumber kids, that's the aim, as far as i see it... parents won't notice, too busy working three jobs to pay the tax required to repay the govt the cost of the darn thing.

Why halls? who cares? Our assembly when i was a kid was usually outside anyway, none of us suffered for it. (Less echo, for starters).

I can only assume that Kevin07 was hoping that hundreds of schools would 'name' their halls after him, like they do in America. Krudd Assembly, Krudd Hall, just another Ruddy Great Waste.

this govt makes me :mad: :banghead:
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Just keep thoses glasses on Bolle. I'm hearing you. Team Krudd is quite unsettling but hey they don't realize nor care. Another term for the pretend aussie battler.

The problem with the ALP is that it used to be ruled by the cream of the working class, but for the last 5 decades it has been ruled by the scum of the middle-class. That's, essentially the problem! And people buy it and vote for them. That's even worse!
 
Smurf1976 said:
How times have changed though, when I was at primary school and the school decided to build a pool it was done through donations from parents and other fundraising activities, not a government handout. Apparently there's now an extension of the gym / assembly hall (which are the same room) where that pool once was.:2twocents
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Whilst I appreciate the sentiment about donations from parents etc., given the weather in Tassie, a gym would seem a more reasonable option for a school than a swimming pool. I still have miserable memories of the unheated outdoor school pool I endured as a kid in NZ. The water temperature would have been about 15 in summer.
 
precisely the reason schools should be allowed to decide what the money got spent on - that is, assuming they HAD to spend something... which, let's face it, you can always find something to buy, if someone is handing you free money.
 
I've heard (I think Ray Hadlee) that the person (can't remember name) who is responsible for the schools construction work in NSW was previously in charge of the NSW railways and was found to be corrupt.

Are the exorbitant prices paid for construction, ie double and treble competitive cost, peculiar to NSW?
 
Whiskers said:
... that the person (can't remember name) who is responsible for the schools construction work in NSW was previously in charge of the NSW railways and was found to be corrupt.

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What is almost funny if it wasn't sad, that even Jury in court cannot be told about previous convictions should this be considered legible for corruption case.
 
Julia said:
Whilst I appreciate the sentiment about donations from parents etc., given the weather in Tassie, a gym would seem a more reasonable option for a school than a swimming pool. I still have miserable memories of the unheated outdoor school pool I endured as a kid in NZ. The water temperature would have been about 15 in summer.
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True, and the pool was outside in the open. But it was heated water so not too bad overall. And there already was a gym, it's just that it's now twice the size it used to be (but the rest of the school isn't much different apart from a couple of portable buildings added).

I suspect it was actually the OH&S implications of having a pool at a primary school, plus the running costs (power etc) that killed it more than anything else. Shame - the water slide was a bit of fun...
 
I just corrected it a bit for you..

Bushman said:
So we have had:
- $91b sent to mums and dads to spend on household consumables generally made in China AND to waste in pokie machines;
- the complete mismanagement of the insulation scheme, costing hundreds of millions and countless lives; and
- now these stories emerging of the building industry rorting this BER (love the meaningless jargon) for millions.

This is how our tax dollars are being frittered away? Is it too late to get into the building industry for my free hand-out?
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Seems pressure being born on the wastefulness of the BER is starting to make a difference.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/in-...of-proposed-cola/story-fn56ulhe-1225845233461

Gillard was out in the press today saying the BER 'saved' Australia form recession! But, the thing is Julia, big Keynesian stimulus packages are fine but we still need a government with some fiscal responsibility. Otherwise bling Freddy could have frittered away the 'dumb luck' Australian budget too.

At least they can say that they are listening. Lol.

Now lets see how these guys go with rorting, I mean running, the healthcare system. At least there will be no Catholic agenda in doing so.
 
Julia said:
And been decidedly cheaper.
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Costs will always blow out to meet the funds available.

Neither Rudd or Gillard is even slightly concerned about the criminal rorting that is going on. After all it is not their money. Gillard even has the quaint idea that this huge wanton splurge of our money saved us from the recession.

And do you know something? In the latest Newspoll a majority think that Labor can best handle the economy.:dunno:
 

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