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I don't mean pronounciation, but the difference between writing with technical proficiency, and writing in an interesting way. You do bring up a good point though in that many of us probably write in a similar way to how we talk.
 
Mr J said:
I don't mean pronounciation, but the difference between writing with technical proficiency, and writing in an interesting way. You do bring up a good point though in that many of us probably write in a similar way to how we talk.
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Have to drop the `o` in pronounce to pronunciation. Well we don`t have to but that`s the way it is spelled by most.
 
I often make spelling errors despite knowing how to spell the words, although in this case I wouldn't have noticed without being asked to look at it. This is one reason why I do not like people correcting other people's errors. By doing so, they presume to know how the other person spells. I can understand someone suggesting another person to type properly rather than in text speak, but picking on the occasional error is just pedantic. All it does is disrupt the flow of conversation.
 
Wysiwyg said:
How common is the pronunciation of words exactly as they are written? Slang, strine and accent heavily influence the languages spoken in this country. Words are shortened, slurred, altered, toned and misused, creating a language that is generally understood but nothing like the written word.

Most of us do know the spelling and meaning of words, even though we do pronounce them from slight to very differently. Words dribbling from mouths is tolerable for most but lookout if the written word gets butchered.
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But we are judged by our accent, vocabulary and diction as well. Not so much in the new world, but very much so elsewhere.

But even in Oz you are judged by your spoken language initially.

e.g. Try getting a job as a presenter if you speak strine.
 
To be fair, English is a living changing language. It will change, its pronounciation, syntax and spelling.

However to describe the muppets at Ninemsn to Scribe B of Beowulf fame would be taking the advantages of hair product and dental hydraulics to a new level.

Ninemsn is ninemsn, was and will be, for ever, a banal bunch of misspelling muppets.

gg
 
stocksontheblock said:
I think your post explains why there is so little respect from other generations for your generation. A sentence should start with a capital "Y", you assume that we all understand what OC means, as I have no idea. "email" is in fact "E-mail", and a sentence should always end. So the use of "..." should in fact be a: "." "!" "?"
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OC = Obsessive Compulsive :p:
 
Mr J said:
I often make spelling errors despite knowing how to spell the words
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Why? Are you saying that you make typo's, rather than 'spelling errors'?
If you know how to spell a word, why on earth wouldn't you spell it correctly?

By doing so, they presume to know how the other person spells.
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Spelling is either correct or it's not. It's not a case of 'how someone spells'.
If it's a case of typo's, then a few seconds of proof reading before posting shouldn't be all that much trouble, should it?
 
wayneL said:
But we are judged by our accent, vocabulary and diction as well. Not so much in the new world, but very much so elsewhere.

But even in Oz you are judged by your spoken language initially.

e.g. Try getting a job as a presenter if you speak strine.
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Paul Hogan is one who took "ocker" to the world. A mix of larrikin, "she`ll be right mate" and blatant stupidity was an exaggeration of the sub-culture during this time. I don`t see it much these days. Maybe people have become more sophisticated due to being embarrassed by the impression it gave the world. Maybe we moved toward a more collective maturity.
 
Julia said:
Why? Are you saying that you make typo's, rather than 'spelling errors'?
If you know how to spell a word, why on earth wouldn't you spell it correctly?
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A typo as you know is a typing error. My brain relates instructions to my fingers, and occasionally the message contains an error, or my hands make a mistake. Quite understandable given the speed at which they operate. I've made several errors as I type this, and while I catch errors in most of my posts, I am destined to miss some.

Spelling is either correct or it's not. It's not a case of 'how someone spells'.
If it's a case of typo's, then a few seconds of proof reading before posting shouldn't be all that much trouble, should it?
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I didn't say anything about "how someone spells'. I said that correcting another's errors means on presumes to know whether the person can spell it correctly. It is an arrogant attitude. As for proofreading, the brain occasionally makes mistakes. I make mine, as you make yours.

This post and my previous post are not intended to be personal.
 
Mr J said:
A typo as you know is a typing error. My brain relates instructions to my fingers, and occasionally the message contains an error, or my hands make a mistake. Quite understandable given the speed at which they operate. I've made several errors as I type this, and while I catch errors in most of my posts, I am destined to miss some.
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OK, so you're making a typo, not actually a spelling error.

I didn't say anything about "how someone spells'.
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No?
Here is what you said
This is one reason why I do not like people correcting other people's errors. By doing so, they presume to know how the other person spells.
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I said that correcting another's errors means on presumes to know whether the person can spell it correctly.
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No, you didn't, as shown by copy of your post above.

It is an arrogant attitude. As for proofreading, the brain occasionally makes mistakes. I make mine, as you make yours.
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Another point of view might be that it's arrogant not to use spellcheck if you can't spell.

There's no shame in finding difficulty in spelling. All depends on the type of education someone has had, how much reading they have done etc etc.
And English is a difficult language. I've spent many years tutoring adults who are illiterate, and when you actually have to try to explain step by step why some spellings are as they are, you really appreciate just how peculiar and difficult it is.
 
Julia said:
OK, so you're making a typo, not actually a spelling error.
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A typo is a spelling error. In any case, I did refer to it as a typo.

No, you didn't, as shown by copy of your post above.
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Sorry, it was an unclear statement that lead to you making a strange conclusion. Rather than "how someone spells", let's amend it to "how well someone spells".

Another point of view might be that it's arrogant not to use spellcheck if you can't spell.
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This isn't a reasonable response. Maybe one doesn't realise they're spelling a word incorrectly. They may not have a spellchecker, they may not care, or they may not think people will be so trivial as to point out spelling errors.

There's no shame in finding difficulty in spelling.
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You're assuming there is even a difficulty. Are we talking about my occasional typos, or someone with the literacy skills of a 7 year old?
 
Mr J said:
Maybe one doesn't realise they're spelling a word incorrectly. They may not have a spellchecker, they may not care, or they may not think people will be so trivial as to point out spelling errors.
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I might be misunderstanding something here, but as I type this reply the built-in ASF spellchecker underlines my mistakes with a dotted red line. A simple right-click gives the correct spelling. Doesn't that work for you? :)
 
I suppose someone has already mentioned what text speak will do to the English language.
My eldest step-daughter is a school teacher 34 yo. Her younger brother
32 yo is illiterate.
chrisalex
 
Mr J said:
It is funny because it's ridiculous.
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I can see that observing a conversation between language pedants and non-pedants might be amusing, bet never ridiculous. Self-contradiction, attempting to run with the hares and hunt with the hounds IS ridiculous however.
:2twocents
 
wayneL said:
I can see that observing a conversation between language pedants and non-pedants might be amusing, bet never ridiculous. Self-contradiction, attempting to run with the hares and hunt with the hounds IS ridiculous however.
:2twocents
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It is ridiculous from my perspective. Others will feel differently.

I assume your second sentence refers to me being involved in the discussion, despite stating that I don't really care? It's not really a contradiction - here's me no longer caring.
 
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