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jancha said:
So if your daughter got raped or bashed you would be saying that the general public would get away with it? Get real. The only difference would the media attention & why is that? Because they're highly paid high profile sportsmen. Just like a business these players have contracts & if they stuff up a lot of the time they get penalized not by the courts but by the club or by both. I think gg just likes to stir the pot in starting this thread.
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Well i don't have a daughter, what difference would that make if it was mine, yours or anyone elses'?
Unfortunately on a large number of occasions they do. Try reading your newspaper in greater depth most days there will be an article about someone getting off the hook. One punch killings a classic example.
 
The Clubs have hushed all this for years - but not anymore :D

If those clubs want us to spend our money watching their games, clean up your business, cause the public is sick of their bull****..

and thats it in a nutshell ;)
 
springhill said:
Well i don't have a daughter, what difference would that make if it was mine, yours or anyone elses'?
Unfortunately on a large number of occasions they do. Try reading your newspaper in greater depth most days there will be an article about someone getting off the hook. One punch killings a classic example.
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What difference? From what i can gather in the tread is about giving poor footballers a break from being penalized when they committ an offence and because they're put in a position where everything is layed in front of them (drugs, booze girls) so they have an excuse. Just wondering if an incidence occurred where by a relative of yours was abused by a football player. Would you say... hey thats ok he's a footballer.. he cant help himself Blah blah. They get a fair go just like us. The media just have a field day with it & their pay packets justify that.
 
Tink said:
The Clubs have hushed all this for years - but not anymore :D

If those clubs want us to spend our money watching their games, clean up your business, cause the public is sick of their bull****..

and thats it in a nutshell ;)
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You don't thing the public would pay to watch football if it wasn't cleaned up? Dream on! Cousins is more popular now than ever! And this poor bugga never tested positive to anything, not once. He put his hand up and said he had a problem and needed help, yet he was punished by the media and the AFL far more significantly than anyone who has actually been caught...

And to those who believe footy players should act better because they are "role models" - they play football, that is what they are paid for. As a parent YOU should be the most influential role model in your childs life! Lead by example!

I once met a friend of a friend who was showing off their kid and saying how cute they looked in their new shirt. The shirt said "The next Judd". I said "Luckily it says Judd and not Cousins!". She was not amused.
 
nunthewiser said:
well perhaps the footy clubs should keep them out of the media spotlight and supply them these things required instead of letting them wander the general population acting like a bunch of mixed up primadonnas

or they could always point out that they have reached an elitest status at there level and if they play up theey can pissorf and be replaced by a more disciplind athlete

stuffem
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But nun, these young men are at the top of their fitness and earning power, attractive to women good and bad and very bad, and feted by the media , TV and print, and then when they something just the eenie teenshiest bit wrong, they are turned into monsters, by the same media.

It is not fair to accept them for their aggression and prowess on a Friday and Saturday and then pillory them for being found wandering drunk outside some jezzabelles unit naked, the following morning, Sunday, stoned and disorientated.

It is unfair and un Australian.

gg
 
gav said:
You don't thing the public would pay to watch football if it wasn't cleaned up? Dream on!
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Gav, the footy codes lost alot of memberships and attendances through the years, specially the rugby with all the bad publicity..

Finally the footy clubs have had to take responsibility with these people rather than always just letting it go..

Thats all progress for me ;)
 
its all a reflection on broader society really...

I think drinking coke and roids (specifically the last 2) are becoming more and more 'mainstream'.

If you bring your children up to idolise fobs and halfwits thats your problem, and only setting themselves up for dissapointment
 
Tink said:
Gav, the footy codes lost alot of memberships and attendances through the years, specially the rugby with all the bad publicity..

Finally the footy clubs have had to take responsibility with these people rather than always just letting it go..

Thats all progress for me ;)
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I assume you are talking about Rugby League there? AFL certainly hasn't suffered.
 
johnnyg said:
So GG, I guess you think that this ---> http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,26114021-23214,00.html sort of behavior is OK then? Watch the Video. They're doing this **** in a grand final, in broad day light, in front of 100's of spectators, imagine when they turn 18, go out and get a gut full, and some poor bloke 'looks' at them the wrong way.
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The behaviour is not OK, but its not something new in sporting history.

Those kids didn't need drugs, grog and roids. Humans have always displayed this sort of behaviour, its just more visible now because the media are a pack of hungry hyenas.

One thing to remember with these athletes is that they ARE being singled out by the media. Do you think actors, artists and musicians are any better behaved??

Where are those reports on the artistic types in the media? Sure, you get the odd one now and then, but the media does not HUNT for it.

Except if its a TV personality on a rival network that is......
 
Krusty the Klown said:
One thing to remember with these athletes is that they ARE being singled out by the media. Do you think actors, artists and musicians are any better behaved??
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There are many more high profile sports people in Australia than there are actors, artists and muscians. There will be more cases from this group, without even considering social factors (such as the fact that some players are just thugs).
 
Rugby league crowds are up 5.00% on last year, weekly TV ratings are up 15% and club memberships have grown 27%. Rugby league has only prospered through all the adversity. The sport suffering the most is rugby union which has had the least amount of player trouble out of all the football codes....

I agree that we should focus more on their on-field exploits and less on their off-field indiscretions. How can you ask a kid at only 19 years of age from the back streets of Western Sydney who has been brought up by a single parent to be a perfect citizen and role model. You are kidding me! These kids need to make mistakes in life so they can learn. Just like the way we all learn in life.
Let warriors be warriors and just enjoy their superior athleticism.

Another classic off-field indiscretion by AFL player Brendan Fevola on Monday night at the Brownlow medal. I personally think it was hilarious. What a great player he is though. I would take my son to watch Fev any day of the week. If my son grows up to act like he did any time he is drinking then I would see that as a reflection of my parenting skills and not because Fev was a bad role model.
 
johnnyg said:
But according to GG we should turn a blind eye and it should be acceptable because of the Athleticism the # 17 showed when he was kicking that kid in the head, right?
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No, this is different from what GG is saying, because there is no drugs, grog and roids involved.

This is natural aggresssion and is no different to any other all in brawl in any other kids sport. It was the same when I played sport as a youth.

And if parents are worried about their kids getting hurt by being kicked in the head then they shouldn't be playing the sport in the first place.
 
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