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Is Garrett a Hypocrite?

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He sure bloody is ... and a crap dancer!!!

So_Cynical said:
Garrett has taken the hard road into a political career, he could of easily won a seat for the greens and spent years achieving nothing...
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Actually, what has he achieved anyway? Apart from being a hypocrite, two faced, a turncoat, a liar. MMM ... the perfect polly really!!!
 
trainspotter said:
Environment Minister Peter Garrett expects to make a decision on whether he will give environmental approvals to the $50 billion Gorgon LNG project within the next week.

"I expect to make a decision in the next week but again I will take the time to go through all of the material in front of me very carefully," he told reporters.

"We are a country built on foreign investment and we continue to welcome investments that develop our resources for the benefit of all Australians," Mr Ferguson said in Beijing. Sounds like the decision has been made to me. LMAOOOOOOOO
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Yeah, like he is one that makes individual decisions in the Labor Party!!!!

I recently read that when you join the Labor Party, you have to take an oath to vote with or side with the party at all times.

NO individual thoughts allowed....

Or else.......
 
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Tow the Party line Peter. Make sure your Union Ticket is paid up while you are at it as well.

Kevin Rudd and his senior ministers have praised the giant Gorgon liquefied natural gas plant on Barrow Island, west of the port of Dampier in Western Australia's booming Pilbara region, all week.

"Gorgon would be the largest resources project ever undertaken in Australia," the Prime Minister told parliament yesterday. "It would boost WA gross state product by 4 per cent and provide tens of billions of dollars in revenue for all Australians."

In an unusual move, Mr Rudd congratulated ExxonMobil and the Gorgon partners, Chevron and Shell, on the progress Gorgon has made to date. "I look forward to seeing the project being brought to a conclusion subject to the completion of environmental processes."

Wouldn't it be fantastic if he comes out and REJECTS the proposal. OOOeeeeerrrrr ... would not be a hypocrite then now would he ! I also believe in dragons, fairies, Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy. The irony of it all is sparkling with it's sagacity. 29 years bleating a "save the world" message at all costs and now he has to sign off on the destruction of native flora and fauna for the sake of the almighty dollar. Loving it Peter ... just loving it. :D
 
simply put yes - he is.

Lets be serious, there isnt a hope in hell that the gorgan deal is not going to happen, it will be approved by Garrett, he is a just a government puppet out way out of his league.
 
Krusty the Klown said:
I recently read that when you join the Labor Party, you have to take an oath to vote with or side with the party at all times.

NO individual thoughts allowed....

Or else.......
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LOL and this don't happen with the Liberals/Nationals/Greens???? Are u really that politically naive?
 
B4 Garrets 28 addittional cause's it had been agreed that the joint venture would allocate 95 million dollars in saftey measures to protect the flatback turtle (Screening of lights and monitoring etc )...Varanus which is 5 km away has nothing like that and yet turtles (green?) lay their eggs there quite happily.

95 million!!!!! and yet the greens still aren't happy:banghead:
And why hasn't this amount been discussed on the news???...We are meant to get an unbiased full story???
Is it because you could probably save a million starving children with that same amount of money???

I don't know if that's hypocrisy but it does stink:2twocents
 
So_Cynical said:
LOL and this don't happen with the Liberals/Nationals/Greens???? Are u really that politically naive?
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I don't know about the Greens, but I strongly doubt there is a formalized oath of obedience in the Lib/Nat parties.

There are always the party whips, but an oath? I would be surprised.
 
So_Cynical said:
LOL and this don't happen with the Liberals/Nationals/Greens???? Are u really that politically naive?
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The Labor party is the only one with a formal oath.

It is a major point brought up by Liberals quite often, that they have the option to vote however they like - a "conscience vote". It has been that way since Menzies created the modern Liberals.

In reality, if you go against the Liberal party line, you just won't get pre-selected for your seat again. It happens from time to time.

The Democrats were the same.

Like Wayne, am unsure about the Greens, but when you run for the Greens, you are practically on the same level as an independant anyway, so if you go against Green party policy, it really does not make much difference to your chances.
 
Whether he is a hypocrite is a bit immaterial to me. But he is a troglodytic luddite (Ha Ha, I like that phrase), or at best, a bit of a dill.

Last night on lateline, when questioned about nuclear (fission) generation he made a statement (that they all seem to be peddling these days) that Australia has plenty of energy so therefore there is no need to go nuclear. Well sorry my friend (NOT), you are not correct, by your own standards. Whilst we may have piles an piles of coal and gas (but not a hell of a lot of liquids - we are now a net importer of petroleum), it still produces CO2. I guess you havn't heard about that bit Peter. So..................:-

1) Our power generators (80-90% coal based) still produce CO2. It will take some time before CO2 capture is sufficiently developed to soak up all that nasty CO2 (ha ha ha). And by the way, current technology uses up to 25% of the power generated just to capture the CO2. Now that seems like an incredibly high value use of energy to me (NOT). WTF are you going to do with all that captured CO2? Ah huh, I know, put it in the ground! Really smart Peter! Have you ever thought of trying to use it for something useful? How about using it for putting bubbles in champagne (I joke :D). You twit!

2) Based on current technology, sending fossil fuel up the smokestack to generate electricity is an incredibly dumb thing to do. Unless future science developments find other means to generate feedstock for petrochemicals, we are going to be in a bit of a fix when fossil fuel runs out. Much of modern life is based upon the chemicals that are generated from petroleum, etc.

3) Where is the electricity going to come from Peter? Wind? Solar? Geothermal? Biomass? Tidal? Wave? Out of your ar@e? It is just fiction to think that these technologies can produce Australia's electricity requirements. Mate, the infrastructure, apart from the technology, just aint there! It will take 50-100 years to get all that going (have you seen how long it takes to get a stupid gummint permit these days?). And even then, you will only have electricity for part of the day - as none of these energy sources have yet been shown to be able to produce baseload. Although maybe geothermal can, but at the scale required????? Not proven!

4) And speaking of gummint permits....... Peter you dill, where are you going to put all the wind generators? Havn't you even noticed the protests from your own dim-witted greenie mates about wind farms?

Yeah sure Peter, you can have some token so called renewable green technologies. And dont get me wrong, I am enthusiastic about developing new technology (I am developing and installing some myself - and with technology that you havn't even heard of). But my small minded mate, you are dreaming! In the time frame you and your mates have set out, and with the targets being set, you will fail! Biggest problem for you gummint twits is.....................

YOU DONT HAVE A PLAN! THE LIGHTS ARE GOING TO GO OUT!

Unless you (you idealogically driven, sanctimonious, arrogant, impractical gummint twits - sorry can't think of any more abusive terms without getting "moderated") consider nuclear power then we are stuffed.

Until the holy grail (fusion) is found/developed, you (gummint) have to consider nuclear fission electricity generation. But not 1st or 2nd generation. At least 3rd generation or 4th/5th. Australia must go down this path NOW! We need to be part of the technology development team (for our engineers, technicans, contractors, etc) so that we are not left behind. If you dont join the club you will not be able to reap the benefits.

So maybe you are a hypcrite. You are OK with selling uranium to the rest of the world, including countries with nuclear weapons. But you are not prepared to process uranium into a product for electricity generation. And you are not prepared to use it to generate electricity. Even if it solves the CO2 problem. And you are not prepared permit Australia to take spent fuel back, and process it for storage. And by the way you dumb assed twit Peter - why not use Thorium fro electricity generation, which would lead to almost zero waste product?

Hmmmm. Thinking some more about it. Yes, you are a hypocrite.

End of Rant. :banghead:
 
wayneL said:
I don't know about the Greens, but I strongly doubt there is a formalized oath of obedience in the Lib/Nat parties.

There are always the party whips, but an oath? I would be surprised.
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Oath, gentleman's agreement call it what u want...ALL POLITICAL PARTY'S OF ANY IMPORTANCE DO IT...DEMAND MEMBERS TO TOW THE PARTY LINE.

As will be clearly demonstrated when the nationals support the emissions trading scheme in the senate, when it gets to a second vote...that or political annihilation for the right side of the Australian political spectrum.
 
trainspotter said:
Anyone can join the Liberal Party. Any one can join the Labor Party ... as long as you join their UNION at the same time. And swear an oath etc,

http://www.alp.org.au/action/donate.php if you want to DONATE to the brotherhood of socialism reform. Afterall, it's your tax payers dollars. :mad:
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Trainspotter, where do you get off, bagging unions all the time. I suppose your not a member of any association such as the "Pearl Producers Association"?

And for your information, if you have not already donated to the brotherhood of capitalists.
http://www.liberal.org.au/contact/makeadonation.php
 
Macquack said:
Trainspotter, where do you get off, bagging unions all the time. I suppose your not a member of any association such as the "Pearl Producers Association"?

And for your information, if you have not already donated to the brotherhood of capitalists.
http://www.liberal.org.au/contact/makeadonation.php
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Wow ... can't believe I missed this one? Ummm ... bagging Unions all the time? I have bagged out Kevin Rudd and his misuse of "stimulus" monies. Over the top and fiscally irresponsible. IMO. Not sure but I have said in a few posts that if you join the Labor Party you are joining a Union and taking an oath etc. Big difference to being a paid up member of an association ... You actually get to choose to join an "association". When you join the Labor Party UNIONISM IS COMPULSORY.

YES ... I am associated with certain industry affiliated bodies but once joined does not mean I must compulsory vote with their views on matters.

Thanks for the link ... I think I might just donate to this worthy cause.
 

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