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Experienced traders who look down on newcomers

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Scalpme said:
The case for helping the newbies not get ripped off is a good thing. Without a doubt someone asks for an opinion, and one is given.

But

So many times when a newbie post a decent question or a common question what often occurs is a direct Slam to his question or his integrity. then all the brothers chime in like a fraternity group. egging each other on to top the next. I don't' make it up, its real. and instead of the high ranking members taking the issue seriously, they seem to love the drama.
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Methinks OP doth protest too much. :)
 
bowman said:
I have seen some pretty naieve, and occasionally even downright dumb first posts here which have been responded to quite dismissively.

Who cares you might ask, it's dog eat dog out there.

Well, the owners of the site for one. Driving away new members would seem to go against their interests.

If you are short on patience and feel the need to be blunt then perhaps it's best to say nothing and get on with your trading.

What lessons are learned when a new member posts once, never to be seen again?

Civility is not a sign of weakness.
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Very well said, I would agree whole heatedly.
 
Muppet's

(1) They cant use the search function.
(2) They are too lazy to carry out their own investigation.
(3) Their opinion is set in concrete and their post has little to do with learning and more to do with how clever they think they are.
(4) They make outrageous claims and get all shirtty when challenged.
(5) They display no willingness to accept experienced opinion.
(6) They come and go just like their posts,contributing little to the longterm community.
 
Scalpme said:
So many times when a newbie post a decent question or a common question what often occurs is a direct Slam to his question or his integrity. then all the brothers chime in like a fraternity group. egging each other on to top the next. I don't' make it up, its real. and instead of the high ranking members taking the issue seriously, they seem to love the drama.
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kennas said:
Example?
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Looks like we could be waiting a while for an example.

Here are 10 examples of questions from new entrants to the market and forum, and responses. All from the past few weeks. I think we are actually a pretty helpful bunch.

New trader: Where to start!?

What does Impairment mean?

How to keep track of my trading?

If you sell cum dividend do you still receive the dividend?

Best place to find upcoming announcements?

Commsec questions with share offer from newbie

Trading Simulations for Beginner

Trading the All Ords?

Volume question?

Renounceable Rights Issue??
 
Timmy said:
Looks like we could be waiting a while for an example.

Here are 10 examples of questions from new entrants to the market and forum, and responses. All from the past few weeks. I think we are actually a pretty helpful bunch.
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Actually, it's quite exceptional the amount of assistance people are provided here.

If they are genuine.
 
kennas said:
Actually, it's quite exceptional the amount of assistance people are provided here.
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You're right.

Check out this thread.

Upcoming resource upgrades 'n' drilling results

Exceptionally good assistance. As an exercise, check out the amount of information provided compared to the number of thank-you's happytown gets for doing the research, and providing it gratis.
 
Timmy said:
You're right.

Check out this thread.

Upcoming resource upgrades 'n' drilling results

Exceptionally good assistance. As an exercise, check out the amount of information provided compared to the number of thank-you's happytown gets for doing the research, and providing it gratis.
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That reminds me of the 'Newbies, all your questions answered' thread, by SirO.

Nice work. :)

It seems that if you're not genuine, you get the heat you deserve. Like a steamer!!
 
Zaij said:
I did say there wasn't really anything of that sort for the last month, so let's delve into threads more than a month ago.

https://www.aussiestockforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=461121&postcount=12

Don't have the time to look back further at the moment, but I used to see more along those lines.
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Zaij, point taken on that post, BUT, if you had have linked that whole thread, instead of just the one post, you would have seen an apology from GG and plenty of positive responses.
 
As I mentioned before, it's thanks to the mods that there's a low here. Notice how you (I think you're a moderator thanks to the fancy blue writing, I'm not sure) jumped right on it?

No one is claiming that *every* long time member is jumping on newbies and trashing them, just that there are a few occasions where people that should know better by now think it's OK to lash out at people.
 
Zaij said:
As I mentioned before, it's thanks to the mods that there's a low here. Notice how you (I think you're a moderator thanks to the fancy blue writing, I'm not sure) jumped right on it?

No one is claiming that *every* long time member is jumping on newbies and trashing them, just that there are a few occasions where people that should know better by now think it's OK to lash out at people.
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So, maybe there is one, or two, people here amongst the thousands that post who have been negative to newcomers.

This thread is getting weirder and weirder.
 
Warning lights are flashing down at quality control
Somebody threw a spanner and they threw him in the hole
Theres rumors in the loading bay and anger in the town
Somebody blew the whistle and the walls came down
Theres a meeting in the boardroom theyre trying to trace the smell
Theres leaking in the washroom theres a sneak in personnel
Somewhere in the corridors someone was heard to sneeze
goodness me could this be industrial disease?

The caretaker was crucified for sleeping at his post
Theyre refusing to be pacified its him they blame the most
The watchdogs got rabies the foremans got fleas
And everyones concerned about industrial disease
Theres panic on the switchboard tongues are ties in knots
Some come out in sympathy some come out in spots
Some blame the management some the employees
And everybody knows its the industrial disease

The work force is disgusted downs tools and walks
Innocence is injured experience just talks
Everyone seeks damages and everyone agrees
That these are classic symptoms of a monetary squeeze
On itv and bbc they talk about the curse
Philosophy is useless theology is worse
History boils over theres an economics freeze
Sociologists invent words that mean industrial disease

Doctor parkinson declared Im not surprised to see you here
Youve got smokers cough from smoking, brewers droop from drinking beer
I dont know how you came to get the betty davis knees
But worst of all young man youve got industrial disease
He wrote me a prescription he said you are depressed
But Im glad you came to see me to get this off your chest
Come back and see me later - next patient please
Send in another victim of industrial disease

I go down to speakers corner Im thunderstruck
They got free speech, tourists, police in trucks
Two men say theyre jesus one of them must be wrong
Theres a protest singer singing a protest song - he says
they wanna have a war to keep us on our knees
They wanna have a war to keep their factories
They wanna have a war to stop us buying japanese
They wanna have a war to stop industrial disease
Theyre pointing out the enemy to keep you deaf and blind
They wanna sap your energy incarcerate your mind
They give you rule brittania, gassy beer, page three
Two weeks in espana and sunday striptease
Meanwhile the first jesus says Id cure it soon
Abolish monday mornings and friday afternoons
The other ones on a hunger strike hes dying by degrees
How come jesus gets industrial disease?

Thank you to Dire Straits for the insight. *big slow hand clap to the mod squad* :cool:
 
kennas said:
I think Wayne was the originator of the 'muppet' call.

But, I don't think it was in regard to any other members here.
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Perhaps we should have a muppets thread.

Muppets 101.

How to search.
Finding a search engine
Typing in your question
Pressing enter
Scrolling down
Clicking on the most appropriate answer
Pressing enter
Read


Muppets 102.......


gg
 
trainspotter said:
Doctor parkinson declared Im not surprised to see you here
Youve got smokers cough from smoking, brewers droop from drinking beer
I dont know how you came to get the betty davis knees
But worst of all young man youve got industrial disease
He wrote me a prescription he said you are depressed
But Im glad you came to see me to get this off your chest
Come back and see me later - next patient please
Send in another victim of industrial disease


Thank you to Dire Straits for the insight. *big slow hand clap to the mod squad* :cool:
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deep man ............

can you explain what it means ?
 
Hey folks.

I am a newbie here and I am relatively new to trading, save to say that the best lessons I have learnt have come through (usually painful!) experience, and wouldn't expect to have it any other way.

I can see the point of view of both sides here on this topic and can certainly see how some of the most experienced folks may grow tired of the more "pedestrian" info requests that may be posted from time to time.

I am a keen fisherman and a member of a fishing website but I frown upon requests from other members for me to divulge the location of my secret spots that I have worked hard to find.

As a previous poster indicated, nothing pays off like hard work.

Finally, whilst I used the word "indicated", I didn't have to look too far using Google to find the difference between an indicated and inferred resource. The info is all out there, even a mug like me can find it!
 
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