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Has Kevin Rudd misled parliament?

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"Labor senators and fellow Treasury official David Martine spent more than 10 minutes trying to stop Mr Grech answering a question about whether Mr Grech had seen a document from Mr Rudd's office regarding Mr Grant. "
Yes, I watched this on the 7.30 Report this evening. The attempts to shut Mr Grech up were quite astonishing.
 
I think the Australian public's love affair with this mendacious and manipulative man may soon be over. He may have to throw Swan to the wolves.
 
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25659112-5013871,00.html

Ahhh, I get it now. It's OK for the P.M. to bully an air hostess about not getting bean sprouts in his meal,
So our leaders are imune to pressure, occasionally making bad judgement calls and the like? Have you ever made a bad judgement call and lashed out when in hindsite it seemed trivial?

I care nout for pollies must admit they have atough job. Not only dealing with the important aspects of runnig a country they must deal with childish journos looking for the next scoop.

Do yourself a favour, wipe your nose clean, pull up your socks and be the best person you can be. When you have acheived that, maybe , just maybe, you might have the strength and diligence to work in the secretery office.

Go home and have a think about your comments.
 
So our leaders are imune to pressure, occasionally making bad judgement calls and the like? Have you ever made a bad judgement call and lashed out when in hindsite it seemed trivial?

I care nout for pollies must admit they have atough job. Not only dealing with the important aspects of runnig a country they must deal with childish journos looking for the next scoop.

Do yourself a favour, wipe your nose clean, pull up your socks and be the best person you can be. When you have acheived that, maybe , just maybe, you might have the strength and diligence to work in the secretery office.

Go home and have a think about your comments.

It's a little more than just a bad judgment call, and it's not the only one. Labor is rife with corruption through the states. This kind of crap needs to be stamped out not pushed aside.It is more like arrogance and stupidity then anything to do with pressure :rolleyes:
 
So our leaders are imune to pressure, occasionally making bad judgement calls and the like? Have you ever made a bad judgement call and lashed out when in hindsite it seemed trivial?

I care nout for pollies must admit they have atough job. Not only dealing with the important aspects of runnig a country they must deal with childish journos looking for the next scoop.

Do yourself a favour, wipe your nose clean, pull up your socks and be the best person you can be. When you have acheived that, maybe , just maybe, you might have the strength and diligence to work in the secretery office.

Go home and have a think about your comments.

Fair call Stan

But if he is involved in this stuff? It is a clear case of profiting from his position? If not, it should be dismissed.

But let's LET Canberra decide. :D
 
Fair call Stan

But if he is involved in this stuff? It is a clear case of profiting from his position? If not, it should be dismissed.

But let's LET Canberra decide. :D

I agree, well let's just let level heads bring out the truth and then pass judgement.

I wasn't commenting on the current issue of a getting a free ute. I was talking about all people at some time making poor judgement and dispicable print media.
 
I agree, well let's just let level heads bring out the truth and then pass judgement.

I wasn't commenting on the current issue of a getting a free ute. I was talking about all people at some time making poor judgement and dispicable print media.

I agree, they are usually full of ****!
 
It's a little more than just a bad judgment call, and it's not the only one. Labor is rife with corruption through the states. This kind of crap needs to be stamped out not pushed aside.It is more like arrogance and stupidity then anything to do with pressure :rolleyes:

Put up your proof. Then put up proof there is not a previous government that has had similar dodgey dealings.

or just simply put it into context. People in power will always be corrupt in some form. It comes with the territory.

Now raise the bar and set guidelines. What is acceptable?
Have yiou ever accepted a free biro? Childish as it may seem that is corruption.
Have you ever been taken out to lunch with a client willing to hold your business? Is that corruption?

Where does one draw the line?

It's silly naysayers who constantly whine, yes whine and are never happy until the power is brought down. They then scurry unhder the rugs until the next one is tall enough to bring to the floor again..


Sit back and think this through. Is it really that bad?


cheers,
 
It will be interesting to see how this all works out.

He's called an inquiry into it.

gg
 
Put up your proof. Then put up proof there is not a previous government that has had similar dodgey dealings.

or just simply put it into context. People in power will always be corrupt in some form. It comes with the territory.

Now raise the bar and set guidelines. What is acceptable?
Have yiou ever accepted a free biro? Childish as it may seem that is corruption.
Have you ever been taken out to lunch with a client willing to hold your business? Is that corruption?

Where does one draw the line?

It's silly naysayers who constantly whine, yes whine and are never happy until the power is brought down. They then scurry unhder the rugs until the next one is tall enough to bring to the floor again..


Sit back and think this through. Is it really that bad?


cheers,


I don't use taxpayer funds to do it.

If he has misled then yes it is bad.

I think you might be better under a dictatorship. The majority of you argument is a bit on the stupid side by saying suck it up and deal with it. Any corruption should be fought against, not ignored. Otherwise you get the situation NSW police were in a few years back. Or numerous councils that have recently been through the wringer over corruption. This is the PM not the fricken mafia. Its people with your attitude that let the rot in.

I will be interested in seeing if he has misled parliament
 
I don't use taxpayer funds to do it.

If he has misled then yes it is bad.

I think you might be better under a dictatorship. The majority of you argument is a bit on the stupid side by saying suck it up and deal with it. Any corruption should be fought against, not ignored. Otherwise you get the situation NSW police were in a few years back. Or numerous councils that have recently been through the wringer over corruption. This is the PM not the fricken mafia. Its people with your attitude that let the rot in.

I will be interested in seeing if he has misled parliament

So you have proof a misdeed has taken place? Great, I'd like to see it in either video or PDF format.

Live in a bubble if you like, but public chosen leaders still fart, have marriage break up, and make poor judgement calls.


next.
 
So you have proof a misdeed has taken place? Great, I'd like to see it in either video or PDF format.

Live in a bubble if you like, but public chosen leaders still fart, have marriage break up, and make poor judgement calls.


next.

Yep... lets excuse all actions based on your arguments:rolleyes:
 
Oh and I hope you don't work for a public owned company after not denying taking a bribe. If you work for a privately owned business, would you care to inform your business owner and the owner of the business you dealt with?


cheers,
 
Oh and I hope you don't work for a public owned company after not denying taking a bribe. If you work for a privately owned business, would you care to inform your business owner and the owner of the business you dealt with?


cheers,

What planet are you from? Or are you currently drunk?
 
I don't use taxpayer funds to do it.

No, sober as a judge, potitician, or public company emplyee (choose one of the above)

You don't use tax payer's fund to apparently take part in untoward behaviour. You said, look just a few lines above.

Again, put some proof up that the prime minister has done anything out out of guidlines and then we can discuss this thread some more.
 
No, sober as a judge, potitician, or public company emplyee (choose one of the above)

You don't use tax payer's fund to apparently take part in untoward behaviour. You said, look just a few lines above.

Again, put some proof up that the prime minister has done anything out out of guidlines and then we can discuss this thread some more.

First you condone corruption, then tell me taking a free biro is a form of corruption and that it is akin to govt corruption using taxpayer’s money. My issue isn't so much with Rudd, but with your warped sense of accepting corruption. Not if Rudd is guilty or not.

Now you are accusing me of taking bribes because I said "Not with taxpayer funds"
That’s because I have taken a free biro before, and according to you that is a form of corruption:rolleyes:

I don't need to prove anything about Rudd so you can wait for the commission like everyone else.
 
"Not with taxpayer funds"

No, you should quote yourself properly. Not as above, but what you said was "I don't use taxpayer funds to do it."

See the difference?

Thank you for backing up my points. manipulation in the media or even a fora can be deceptive.

yes I do condone a ceratin corruption because I am a part of a capitalist society and take part in it, even if in only the smallest of extremes. You have admitted to it to; as I noted in your quote calrification.

what's your point? I'm discussing why a PM is being accused before proof firsty.

Secondly, yes, I am not concerned if he did accept a ute or whatever.

Please explain how that is different toparty donations that gives one an ear into the leader whenever it suits.


Sounds a bit hypocritical to me. But if you don't see it my way, I could sort you and the missus out with dinner and a nice bottle of bubbly and you may accept. I've heard you're open to suggestion..see quote above. ;)

cheers,
 
No, you should quote yourself properly. Not as above, but what you said was "I don't use taxpayer funds to do it."

See the difference?



Sounds a bit hypocritical to me. But if you don't see it my way, I could sort you and the missus out with dinner and a nice bottle of bubbly and you may accept. I've heard you're open to suggestion..see quote above. ;)

cheers,

No just send a free pen. Everyone knows they are my personal choice of bribe:banghead:

Yes you caught me with "I don't use taxpayer funds to do it." I am now tainted with the horror of stan101 corruption. "hypocritical" you might want to look that word up.

You have a unique way of going all over the place with your posts. Am I just tired and your posts coming off weird, or are they just weird?
 
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