The car rego rip-off

[Calliope]

Each year in each state one thing you can rely on is that your vehicle Registration and CTP Insurance will rise. One of the main reasons for this is that you and I are paying for the tens of thousands of drivers who are driving unregistered vehicles and are often unlicensed.

One of the things our governments don't tell us is that there is a total of almost $2 billion in unpaid traffic fines, led by Victoria, $700m and Qld. 462m, and the states don't have any ideas on how to collect this money. Apparently the only people who pay their fines are law abiding registered drivers with occasional infringements.

If fines could be collected off serial offenders, vehicle taxes would not need to rise.

 

[glenn_r]

Maybe when caught they should impound the car and if the fines are not paid sell it at auction.

Also I personally own 3 cars, on which I have paid the full registration/CTP on all of them but I can only drive 1 at a time, maybe we should just pay registration/CTP on the driver and not the vehicle..

Speaking of fines I received one in the mail yesterday for $142.00 after being photographed doing 106KM on a 100KM freeway (which used to be rated a 110Km freeway)......Guilty your honour but WTF 6% over.

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

Each year in each state one thing you can rely on is that your vehicle Registration and CTP Insurance will rise. One of the main reasons for this is that you and I are paying for the tens of thousands of drivers who are driving unregistered vehicles and are often unlicensed.

One of the things our governments don't tell us is that there is a total of almost $2 billion in unpaid traffic fines, led by Victoria, $700m and Qld. 462m, and the states don't have any ideas on how to collect this money. Apparently the only people who pay their fines are law abiding registered drivers with occasional infringements.

If fines could be collected off serial offenders, vehicle taxes would not need to rise.

Nobody I know in Townsville pays rego. Its a waste of money. Just don't pay it.

gg

 

[treeman]

For a while its something close to $50 raise each year in Victoria, I still remember when it used to be $400 ....

 

[ojm]

Got my rego renewal in the mail two days ago from VicRoads.

Total: $567.20
Breakdown -
Registration fee: $183.30
TAC Charge (inc $31.73 GST): $349
Insurance duty: $34.90.

So paying quite a bit in tax (wtf is inusrance duty? I already pay for insurance. Is it insurance that the pollies will get their fat pension? And I probably get slugged another "insurance duty" on my full comp insurance.).

And don't TAC make a profit each year? How about stop all the friggan advertising on tele/radio/billboards/papers/magazines/footy teams and what not and cut down the TAC fee!

 

[gfresh]

Don't complain! rego in QLD is around $690 .. or ~$830 if you have a v8.. some of the most expensive in the country I believe. Then again, in VIC they sting you for that extra "right foot" tax with the whole 3km/hr leeway (thank **** I don't have to put up with worrying about that anymore!)

I also hate the fact you have to pay for 2x lots of insurance and 2x lots of rego if you own more than 1 car, as I can only drive one of the damn things at once! Although maybe it's a good thing as I'd probably have about 5 cars by now

 

[Boggo]

Speaking of fines I received one in the mail yesterday for $142.00 after being photographed doing 106KM on a 100KM freeway (which used to be rated a 110Km freeway)......Guilty your honour but WTF 6% over.

The silly part about the 6% is that the manufacturer's are allowed up to 10% on the accuracy on their speedo's from what I understand.

Don't complain! rego in QLD is around $690 .. or ~$830 if you have a v8.. some of the most expensive in the country I believe.

I am in Mooloolabah at the moment, at least in Queensland they seem to try to improve to roads to keep ahead of growing traffic demands.

In SA they seem to only review the dismal state of our roads every 5 years or so, then they build half a freeway (yep, 2 lanes that change direction at midday and midnight).

They have built an underpass under Anzac Highway this year so thats it for another few years.

 

[Julia]

Hey, Calliope: if you're cranky about the rise in rego (and who isn't) just wait until you get your rates notice, and the next electricity bill.
Apparently these are both going up considerably more than the rego has!

With the money coming in during the mining boom in Qld (and federally during the Howard years, for that matter) funds should have been squirelled away so that unreasonable rises in taxes - yes, they're all taxes - don't happen.

 

[ck13488]

NSW - newcastle

registration fee $52
motor vehicle tax $223
CTP $498
third party property** $413

total $1186


**i am of the belief that third party property should be made compulsory. if EVERYONE was made to pay it there would be a massive decline in the number of cases which go to court, sheriffs etc etc. A reasonable assumption would be that it would save the government millions...

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as well as stop the inconveniece of those bastards without a dime to their name, who live off my taxes screwing us over by not paying for damages they have caused.

cant half tell that i was taken out by an old pensioner who is 3 months after the accident legally blind, who gave me a fake address, who lives off the pension and has no assets that i can reposses (ie she has lived to ~70 and owns basic tv/oven/lounge thats it) and thinks that even though the court ruled she give me $30/fortnight its too much. the fact her pension not long went up $30/fortnight and she got >$1k in stimulus payments aparently doesnt matter.
</rant>

stupid old hag​

 

[So_Cynical]

Speaking of fines I received one in the mail yesterday for $142.00 after being photographed doing 106KM on a 100KM freeway (which used to be rated a 110Km freeway)......Guilty your honour but WTF 6% over.

Victoria is the worst state for traffic fines...so petty and pathetic.

In the last 15 years i have received 1 speeding fine...and that was while
i lived in Victoria (3 years) 64 km in a 60 zone....VIC sucks the big one.

 

[theasxgorilla]

Each year in each state one thing you can rely on is that your vehicle Registration and CTP Insurance will rise. One of the main reasons for this is that you and I are paying for the tens of thousands of drivers who are driving unregistered vehicles and are often unlicensed.

One of the things our governments don't tell us is that there is a total of almost $2 billion in unpaid traffic fines, led by Victoria, $700m and Qld. 462m, and the states don't have any ideas on how to collect this money. Apparently the only people who pay their fines are law abiding registered drivers with occasional infringements.

If fines could be collected off serial offenders, vehicle taxes would not need to rise.

There is always more than one way to look at a situation.

The real question you should ask is this... how much would your registration fees be if states like Victoria didn't have such efficient "safety camera" systems in place to generate revenue from?

As per Glenn R's post, getting fined for 106 in a 100 km/h zone!?!?

Hmmm, let me see, what works better, raising rego fees of the many to reflect what it actual costs to maintain road infrastructure? Or convincing some unlucky people to pay a 25% premium on their rego by providing evidence showing they broke the law?

 

[insider]

That's crazy $800+ for a V8 in Qld... Thats disgusting... As if the funds are going to the right places...

 

[disarray]

i remember when i bought my car i had to pay stamp duty on it, paid as a percentage of the cars price including GST. having to pay tax on GST is pathetic and the RTA copped an earful but what can they do? paying tax on a tax is a sign of the times.

i also got done for 105km/h on a 100km/h freeway in perth while i was going downhill. someone set fire to the state parliaments please, they're an extremely expensive waste of space.

 

[insider]

i remember when i bought my car i had to pay stamp duty on it, paid as a percentage of the cars price including GST. having to pay tax on GST is pathetic and the RTA copped an earful but what can they do? paying tax on a tax is a sign of the times.

i also got done for 105km/h on a 100km/h freeway in perth while i was going downhill. someone set fire to the state parliaments please, they're an extremely expensive waste of space.

Tell me about it... I got done same thing but coming out of a 110K zone into a 100K zone... I got fined but my brother inlaw who I was following didn't... I was 103.5K after the 3 percent adjustment... How's that for BS revenue raising... First and only fine after 5 years of driving...

 

[GumbyLearner]

For a while its something close to $50 raise each year in Victoria, I still remember when it used to be $400 ....

The key is ... if you buy a used car.There is a warranty of purchase agreement both statutory and under the common law.

If you buy the car and it's not road-worthy prior to the 28 days you purchased it you should be fined, to correct the defaults without paying the fine do it within the 28 days after purchase. It's like a grace period!

 

[gav]

Victoria is the worst state for traffic fines...so petty and pathetic.

In the last 15 years i have received 1 speeding fine...and that was while
i lived in Victoria (3 years) 64 km in a 60 zone....VIC sucks the big one.

In the last 12 months I've been fined 3 times. Twice for doing 64KM in a 60 zone, and once for doing 104KM in a 100 zone.

TAC are quick to raise your rego, but when they are at fault it is like trying to get blood from a stone (my Dad is fighting them in court at the moment for an accident 2.5yrs ago that left him disabled)

 

[Calliope]

There is always more than one way to look at a situation.
The real question you should ask is this... how much would your registration fees be if states like Victoria didn't have such efficient "safety camera" systems in place to generate revenue from?

No. The real question is how much lower the registration fees would be if Victoria would collect the fines from the lawbreaking serial offenders that they catch on their "efficient" traffic surveillance systems?

 

[Trevor_S]

Nobody I know in Townsville pays rego. Its a waste of money. Just don't pay it.

That makes me the odd one out up here then I guess ?

 

[gav]

RE: Vic's unpaid fines.

There is an ad campaign on the radio at the moment says that after a while the late notices for fines will stop coming in. Then you can't register your car the following year...

 

[awg]

NSW - newcastle

registration fee $52
motor vehicle tax $223
CTP $498
third party property** $413

total $1186


**i am of the belief that third party property should be made compulsory. if EVERYONE was made to pay it there would be a massive decline in the number of cases which go to court, sheriffs etc etc. A reasonable assumption would be that it would save the government millions...

<rant>
as well as stop the inconveniece of those bastards without a dime to their name, who live off my taxes screwing us over by not paying for damages they have caused.

cant half tell that i was taken out by an old pensioner who is 3 months after the accident legally blind, who gave me a fake address, who lives off the pension and has no assets that i can reposses (ie she has lived to ~70 and owns basic tv/oven/lounge thats it) and thinks that even though the court ruled she give me $30/fortnight its too much. the fact her pension not long went up $30/fortnight and she got >$1k in stimulus payments aparently doesnt matter.
</rant>

stupid old hag​

Sorry to hear, I was going to post after reading earlier posts about non-rego payers.

Every crackhead, junkie, crim and many hapless unemployed are driving round unrego.

I know several people who have been crashed by 'em

If you are a student, not worth comprehensive insurance on a $5k car, then bad luck.

BTW, you can have Centrelink enforce a Court Sequestration order (or you used to be able) and the money is direct debited to your account.

get in touch with Centrelink Debt Recovery or the Court Registrar to advise you on process.

Also if a person is drink or drug affected, their insurance is void.

Probably not so much of a problem for the majority of well heeled ASF readers, who have comprehensive insurance.

ps..the number of drivers who are affected by dementia is a huge hidden problem