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Calliope said:
Quite often it is the players whom the Clubs' publicity machines have have built up as being decent blokes, visiting sick children in hospitals, featuring in commercials, etc, are the ones who let us down the most. Last year some of the Brisbane Broncos' most "respected" players were involved in nasty incidents inside and outside of nightspots

One gang of three performed disgusting acts on a woman in a toilet which they captured on film. The woman's complaints weren't taken seriously by the police. The Broncos can do no wrong in Brisbane. The police minister made excuses for these louts while the police were supposed to be investigating the incident.

Even if they did not technically break the law, their disgusting behaviour should have seen them kicked out. Neither their club nor the NRL took any action.
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My thoughts exactly. As I said in an earlier post, there are just too many idiots and incompetents at the helm of rugby league.
Even the best players like Darren Lockyer or whoever should be chucked out of the game permanently if they can't behave to a decent standard both on and off the field.
They're not indispensable.....there are many young players coming up through the ranks who are almost as good as the top players, and only need a chance at the top level to lift their game another 10 or 15% to the elite standard.
 
I was watching the 5 o'clock news just now. The sports segment comes on, they show the highlights of todays NRL games. Not surprisingly, another brawl. One bloke punches an opponent in the face, next thing there's six or eight blokes all swinging punches at each other.
Pathetic. And the rugby league code wonders why it's losing ground to other football codes!
These thugs need to wake up to themselves. The clubs who employ them need to wake up to themselves. The fans who think there's nothing wrong with this sort of behaviour, including one or two on this thread, need to wake up to themselves.
The people at the helm of rugby league need to wake up to themselves and start imposing penalties that are sufficiently severe to curb this sort of behaviour.

The law needs to get involved. You find yourself in court quick and lively on a charge of assault if you punch someone in the face as they're walking down the street. So why then are rugby league players allowed to get away with it on the football field without having to face court for their actions? Why should a football field be a place where violent assault is legalised? Why should football players not be subject to the same laws as anyone else? Are tennis players allowed to violently assault their opponents? Golfers? Swimmers? Of course not.
And why do some idiots seem to think it's quite OK and doesn't constitute a serious problem?
 
bunyip said:
I was watching the 5 o'clock news just now. The sports segment comes on, they show the highlights of todays NRL games. Not surprisingly, another brawl. One bloke punches an opponent in the face, next thing there's six or eight blokes all swinging punches at each other.

And why do some idiots seem to think it's quite OK and doesn't constitute a serious problem?
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its about time......

BRING BACK THE BIFF!!! :D
 
bunyip said:
The law needs to get involved. You find yourself in court quick and lively on a charge of assault if you punch someone in the face as they're walking down the street. So why then are rugby league players allowed to get away with it on the football field without having to face court for their actions? Why should a football field be a place where violent assault is legalised? Why should football players not be subject to the same laws as anyone else? Are tennis players allowed to violently assault their opponents? Golfers? Swimmers? Of course not.
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You obviously haven't played the front 9 at Moore Park........;)

I hear you, but keep in mind televised Rugby League is a full contact sport played by hyper-fit professional athletes and getting a solid thump is part of the game (ever been at the bottom of a rugby maul?). Last time I looked its also illegal to dump-tackle innocent pedestrians (at least outside of Lakemba) but a vital part of a game of League. While I completely agree the behaviour you are referring to is clearly unacceptable and needs to be punished, I also feel that getting the law involved risks opening up a minefield of post match legal BS that will stuff the game up worse than Mr Murdochs Superleague fiasco, and potentially open the legal system to be treated as a media circus fo the benefit of player managers.

The media used to have an understanding with the League not to televise those incidents so as not to set a bad example to kids (and more impressionable "adults"). The players and clubs do get hefty suspensions and fines. Sadly, you cant hope to stop bad behaviour, but you can minimise its impact.
 
Jeff Kennett compares League players and AFL.
Claims AFL players are more disciplined. :confused:

http://www.abc.net.au/sport/offsiders/content/2007/2522889.htm

JACQUELIN MAGNAY, SYDNEY MORNING HERALD: Are you saying Jeff that AFL players are better behaved than rugby league players?

JEFF KENNETT: I don't think there is any doubt about that. I mean, you can put it in any capsule you like but I think that the league in Sydney had its season launch a couple of weeks ago. That turned into a terrifying night of alcoholism and activity, etc. We had our launch last week. It was a very good launch. Very professional. People knew what they were there for and people then returned to their homes or whatever.

A few names that come to mind in the AFL.

1. The numerous Tigers and Pies caught on the sauce during TAC sponsorship of their respective clubs.

2. The 'clean' Ben Cousins now at Richmond.

3. Supression of names by the AFL of players on performance enhancing substances.

4. Alan Didak and his biker buddies.

5. The misadventures of Brendan Fevola.
 
GumbyLearner said:
Jeff Kennett compares League players and AFL.
Claims AFL players are more disciplined. :confused:.
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I think that you will find individuals within the AFL have problem behaviours; but that isnt part of the actual club culture and if it does occur, players are dealt with swiftly. Whereas with Rugby league, it is part of the culture of the club, viz the recent penalty handed out to Manly, because they held a full on beer fest just a couple of days before the opening round. In AFL it is more likely to be a family day sausage sizzle. Maybe it is because the Rugby League is interchangable with the income from League Clubs, whereas AFL has never had the same associations with alcohol venues and gambling in order to fund itself.
 
In a previous post I referred to the disgusting behaviour of some Broncos with a woman in a Brisbane nightspot last year.

Shane Webcke is one of the genuinely acceptable role models in the game.

The fact that the crowd could cheer these nasty louts tells it's own story

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Just shows the difference between AFL and Rugby. An Adelaide player has been arrested for assaulting his girlfriend on Sunday morning, and has been banned indefinately by his club. He was Adelaide's Best Player last year and had been picked in the all Australian team, he also has to do 50 hours of community service in a Womens shelter, and $5000 fine. And he hasnt even been to court yet!

What a fantastic message. Pity about Rugby. :mad:
 
I wondered how Adelaide would deal with him. I'm pretty sure they are only allowed to fine him a maximum of $5,000 and they would have probably fined him more if they could have.
 
I think the powers in Adelaide are really angry about his behaviour. Craigy would be disgusted at the fact he hit his girlfriend.
 
metric said:
prospector....IF it is proven, i doubt very much he will go to jail.

perhaps you have more detail?
there are no suggestions anyones clothes were removed?
was it a 'groping' incident?

lets get past the inflamatory wording of the charges....what really happened?
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Well, this may throw more light on his 'naughty boy' behaviour! Although of course not proven yet.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,25302145-29277,00.html
The 24-year-old fullback is charged with sexual intercourse without consent and assault with an act of indecency on a 17-year-old girl about 8pm (AEDT) on March 6 at North Manly.

Rape, not a kiss and cuddle or a quick grope in the dark!
 
So some posters think it's a one football code problem. Namely NRL.

What about this story even though it doesn't involve drunken behaviour or violent acts committed on women. :rolleyes: Yeah right!

It is still a narrative about violence against women for that matter according to former player/indie pollie Phil Cleary.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/04/09/2539600.htm?section=justin

Chook video duo may be rested: Laidley

North Melbourne coach Dean Laidley says the two senior AFL players at the centre of the chicken sex video scandal may be rested from this weekend's match against Hawthorn.

Midfielder Adam Simpson and ruckman Daniel Pratt appeared on The Footy Show on Channel Nine last night to confess to being part of a group of eight players who made an offensive video that was uploaded onto the internet.

Certainly a sick violent narrative involving throwing a chicken carcass against a wall and running it over like roadkill.

Yeah ladies its just an NRL problem.

The video was made my two 'shinboners' named Pratt and Simpson.

I much prefer this narrative at least it's funny! And doesn't involve throwing chickens against walls and running them over.

Sick indeed!

 
Blown out of proportion imo, while it is somewhat distasteful and shouldn't have been made public, it is only a bit of fun by young men with too much time on their hands.

Not even close to comparable with the Stewart incident.

As for the 2 codes, who cares imo it's more a society problem it doesn't matter what code of football they play.
 
I have to disagree with you nomore4s.

Prospector claimed in an earlier post that unlike NRL there were not the "culture" problems in the AFL.

A few weeks earlier I posted a story about Wayne Carey and his decision to reform in light of his history of domestic violence. For this, Prospector rightly pointed out that he had glassed a lady and what an idiotic act it was.
Which of course was posted in the newspaper link that I attached to my post.

Now, two weeks later we hear of the North Melbourne Footy Club creating a video and uploading it on the net. This is a culture problem.

You can say all you like about the NRL, but AFL clubs have their share of violent drunken idiotic bastards who come home and lay into their wives and kids too! There is no room to delineate between the two.

I agree with you nomore4s, it is a society problem regardless of code.
But it is also a myth to think otherwise.

:2twocents
 
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