Rugby League Louts

[Calliope]

Brett Stewart, Manly fullback and NRL star has been stood down for the next four weeks after the NRL took it's toughest stance to yet to save the game's battered image after a decade of scandal. He has been charged with sexually assaulting a 17 year old girl.

The last, and only league player to be forcibly benched by the NRL's top official was Julian O'Neill in 1999. O'Neill carried out some of the most disgusting acts seen in NRL players' history of bad behaviour, mainly, but not always caused by drunkenness. Over 80 incidents have been attributed to booze. The clubs have done little to stop this behaviour.

Strangely, only one player has ended up in jail. Is acceptance of this behaviour part of our culture?

It is said that these people are role models for our young people. The NRL had certainly spent a lot of money promoting Stewart in this image

 

[investorpaul]

There all a disgrace if they cant hold their grog or go out without needing to get drunk then they dont deserve all the money they earn. The NRL needs to get tougher.

Role models..... what a joke. If i had a kid i wouldnt want them anywhere near the sport

 

[white_goodman]

Brett Stewart, Manly fullback and NRL star has been stood down for the next four weeks after the NRL took it's toughest stance to yet to save the game's battered image after a decade of scandal. He has been charged with sexually assaulting a 17 year old girl.

The last, and only league player to be forcibly benched by the NRL's top official was Julian O'Neill in 1999. O'Neill carried out some of the most disgusting acts seen in NRL players' history of bad behaviour, mainly, but not always caused by drunkenness. Over 80 incidents have been attributed to booze. The clubs have done little to stop this behaviour.

Strangely, only one player has ended up in jail. Is acceptance of this behaviour part of our culture?

It is said that these people are role models for our young people. The NRL had certainly spent a lot of money promoting Stewart in this image

only idiots have rugby league players as role models, they are idiots and bogans of society... and yes i played representative league for a long time so im not against the game itself..

 

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if youve never done anything STUPID whilst on the grog, you have never drank much. i think ALL the stupid things ive done have been whilest under the influence...except perhaps invest in cnp, but i knew the risks.

some of the time people do these STUPID things whilst 'blacked out' under the influence. they have no recall of what they have done... ever. they do things they would never entertain doing while sober. and thats what stuart did. blacked out, drunk, did something stupid, and cant remember it.

he's about to learn a harsh lesson for something he didnt 'conciously' do. his real crime was drinking to excess....but where is the law on that?

both stuart and the girl will suffer.....meanwhile, grog is served in ever increasing hours, and ruining more families and communities.

some people may claim they can handle it....but EVERYONE who is a drinker has done something stupid. i dont care what they say.

"let he whom is without sin, cast the first stone.." 'he' would be a tea total..
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[nomore4s]

What I don't understand is why he was out getting so blind a week before the first game of the season.

Stupid man imo, deserves everything that follow now.

 

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What I don't understand is why he was out getting so blind a week before the first game of the season.

a week ....!!!

when i was playing for harden vs temora on a cold, sleety, windswept day....at halftime the forwards (of my team) downed a flagon of plonk. us backs werent allowed to have any.....

back on the field, in the first scrum, the temora forwards exclamed "holy s$%^, you blokes stink of #%$*** grog" to much laughter....


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[investorpaul]

if youve never done anything STUPID whilst on the grog, you have never drank much. i think ALL the stupid things ive done have been whilest under the influence...except perhaps invest in cnp, but i knew the risks.

some of the time people do these STUPID things whilst 'blacked out' under the influence. they have no recall of what they have done... ever. they do things they would never entertain doing while sober. and thats what stuart did. blacked out, drunk, did something stupid, and cant remember it.

he's about to learn a harsh lesson for something he didnt 'conciously' do. his real crime was drinking to excess....but where is the law on that?

both stuart and the girl will suffer.....meanwhile, grog is served in ever increasing hours, and ruining more families and communities.

some people may claim they can handle it....but EVERYONE who is a drinker has done something stupid. i dont care what they say.

"let he whom is without sin, cast the first stone.." 'he' would be a tea total..
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So because he was drunk and "cant remember" its ok he sexually assaulted a girl???

Sure everyone does things they regret when there drunk but there is a difference between saying something stupid to a mate or throwing up in a cab than sexually assaulting someone

 

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So because he was drunk and "cant remember" its ok he sexually assaulted a girl???

Sure everyone does things they regret when there drunk but there is a difference between saying something stupid to a mate or throwing up in a cab than sexually assaulting someone

i didnt say it was ok....


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[Prospector]

if youve never done anything STUPID whilst on the grog, you have never drank much. i think ALL the stupid things ive done have been whilest under the influence...except perhaps invest in cnp, but i knew the risks.
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We are talking about sexual assault here, not just stupid things people do when they are pissed! Cast the first stone? I am betting most of the people on this forum have been drunk at some stage but would never ever even contemplate sexually assaulting a girl.

Picture this. Your 17 year old daughter is outside your family home, having a smoke and talking on her mobile when this 'thing' forces himself on her and you and other people have to drag this monster off her . She has ALREADY SUFFERED! Reporting it can only make it better for her!
How can you even think that this is just a case of boys being drunk doing stupid things! When this is proven in court he will GO TO JAIL!


Too much money, too little education, too few brain cells, too much time on their hands, too much booze - sounds like Rugby League!

 

[nomore4s]

a week ....!!!

when i was playing for harden vs temora on a cold, sleety, windswept day....at halftime the forwards (of my team) downed a flagon of plonk. us backs werent allowed to have any.....

back on the field, in the first scrum, the temora forwards exclamed "holy s$%^, you blokes stink of #%$*** grog" to much laughter....

You weren't a fulltime highly paid professional league player though.

 

[dutchie]

Too much money, too little education, too few brain cells, too much time on their hands, too much booze - sounds like Rugby League!

Unfortunately this is a pretty good definition of Rugby League.

These blocks are professional sportsman and role models.

But they don't act that way.

Most Rugby League players do not have the ability to think things through and it it should therefore be the responsibility of the administration and each club to do their thinking for them.

Firstly since these blokes are supposedly professionals there should be a total ban on the consumption of alcohol and drugs.
Too tough? Then don't become a professional - simple as that.
One strike and your out.
Banned players not eligible to play in other countries.

Each player should be educated/ guided in investing his hard earned pay - playing days won't last for ever.

Each player should be educated/ guided into a back up career if injured or retired.

Each play should be educated/ guided into acting appropriately in public and giving back to society and junior players.

This is a minimum requirement and anything else is a band aid solution.

 

[tigerboi]

Re:innocent til proven guilty

As usual lots have stewart already guilty..,the legal principal of innocent til proven guilty applies in all cases so all the would be judges best wait until the courts deal with the matter thats if he can get a fair hearing at all now.

No one has mentioned why a 17 year old was smoking?

yes i played rugby league for many years & only have a drink once in a blue moon,i found that it affects your performance big time.

i believe he should have been allowed to play until it is proven either way what happened.

david gallop is a lawyer & he hasnt followed proper due process in this case,btw bundy sponsor the metro cup.

my worth

 

[Julia]

Re: innocent til proven guilty

No one has mentioned why a 17 year old was smoking?

Why would they???
What on earth does that have to do with the subject?
Surely you're not going to start on "let's blame the victim", (as if smoking had suddenly become sexually provocative anyway!)

 

[investorpaul]

Re: innocent til proven guilty

You weren't a fulltime highly paid professional league player though.

As usual lots have stewart already guilty..,the legal principal of innocent til proven guilty applies in all cases so all the would be judges best wait until the courts deal with the matter thats if he can get a fair hearing at all now.

No one has mentioned why a 17 year old was smoking?

yes i played rugby league for many years & only have a drink once in a blue moon,i found that it affects your performance big time.

i believe he should have been allowed to play until it is proven either way what happened.

david gallop is a lawyer & he hasnt followed proper due process in this case,btw bundy sponsor the metro cup.

my worth

My understanding of the law is that you are allowed to smoke over the age of 16, you just cant buy the ciggies yourself until you reach 18.

 

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When this is proven in court he will GO TO JAIL!

prospector....IF it is proven, i doubt very much he will go to jail.

perhaps you have more detail?
there are no suggestions anyones clothes were removed?
was it a 'groping' incident?

lets get past the inflamatory wording of the charges....what really happened?



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[Trembling Hand]

Re: innocent til proven guilty

No one has mentioned why a 17 year old was smoking?

 

[investorpaul]

prospector....IF it is proven, i doubt very much he will go to jail.

perhaps you have more detail?
there are no suggestions anyones clothes were removed?
was it a 'groping' incident?

lets get past the inflamatory wording of the charges....what really happened?



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even if it was groping he should go to jail for 3 or 6 months, maybe then he will wake up to the fact that he is a role model and should act like one.

Alot of kids look up to these guys and what message do you think it sends if the headline reads - NRL star let off sexual assault. Then the next week some other random gets sent to jail for the same thing.

They are "protected" by our weak legal system and he should be immediately banned from playing NRL until the outcome of the trial is heard. If he is found guilty he should be thrown in jail and banned from any involvement in the game for the rest of his life

 

[Prospector]

Re: innocent til proven guilty

As usual lots have stewart already guilty..,the legal principal of innocent til proven guilty applies in all cases so all the would be judges best wait until the courts deal with the matter thats if he can get a fair hearing at all now.

No one has mentioned why a 17 year old was smoking?

Yes tigerboi, that was our first reaction too, it is easy to set these league players up to claims of rape because, let's face it, they put themselves in such compromising positions. Continually. But as soon as I heard that there were other witnesses involved, who had to pull this guy off the girl, well, that rather says something else than innocent to me. They weren't alone in a room, they werent drinking together, they werent even socialising together. She was just 'in his way'!

As for the girl smoking, what on earth, does that have to do with anything?

It is quite common to stand people down from their positions in times when a serious crime is reported. He is not being treated diferently to others. No doubt he still gets all his pay, and his grog.

 

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even if it was groping he should go to jail for 3 or 6 months, maybe then he will wake up to the fact that he is a role model and should act like one.

Alot of kids look up to these guys and what message do you think it sends if the headline reads - NRL star let off sexual assault. Then the next week some other random gets sent to jail for the same thing.

They are "protected" by our weak legal system and he should be immediately banned from playing NRL until the outcome of the trial is heard. If he is found guilty he should be thrown in jail and banned from any involvement in the game for the rest of his life

rubbish. if it was a groping incident, the penalty of prison would be way to hard....

 

[Prospector]

prospector....IF it is proven, i doubt very much he will go to jail.

perhaps you have more detail?
there are no suggestions anyones clothes were removed?
was it a 'groping' incident?

lets get past the inflamatory wording of the charges....what really happened?

Um the inflammatory wording of the charges is exactly what he is charged with - sexual assault. Clothes do not have to be removed for sexual assault, that isnt what defines the offence.