Schapelle Corby - Innocent or Guilty?

[2BAD4U]

It is quite an alarming thought isn't it.... if someone puts something in your bag, without your knowledge, you haven't a leg to stand on really, have you?

My one question is WHY? Why would someone put something of such value in a complete strangers bag? This is absolute fantasy stuff to think that smugglers would put that much dope in a complete strangers bag in the hope of being able to recover it at the other end.

And explod you say 80% admit guilt, that still leaves 20% who are either innocent or lying. And I reckon 19.9% are lying. Isn't possession 9/10ths the law?

:bigun2: X 9

 

[ColB]

Originally posted by FPSS:

"..Another interesting point made in here is how the media reacted to Schapelle. It was said that if she was ugly they wouldn't have paid her any attention. In part this is true, because we have other Australians detained overseas who have never got even a tenth of the media attention. I doubt they would think themselves ugly but obviously it matters..."

"I tend to disagree with this somewhat. You can be Butt Ugly and still attract the media attention. Look at Mercedes Corby for example!"

 

[ColB]

Originally posted by Explod:

"...In my time on the beat 80% of suspects nodded the head when caught in possession..."

:bonk:Telephone book :bonk: telephone book :bonk: telephone book :bonk: telephone book

 

[explod]

My one question is WHY? Why would someone put something of such value in a complete strangers bag? This is absolute fantasy stuff to think that smugglers would put that much dope in a complete strangers bag in the hope of being able to recover it at the other end.

And explod you say 80% admit guilt, that still leaves 20% who are either innocent or lying. And I reckon 19.9% are lying. Isn't possession 9/10ths the law?

:bigun2: X 9

If they have possession. I would argue that Corby did not have exclusive possession.

 

[2BAD4U]

If they have possession. I would argue that Corby did not have exclusive possession.

If that were true, then every prosecution by customs and federal police of people caught with stuff in their bags wouldn't stand up in court.

Again I ask the question of why a complete stranger would put something in your bag?

When you travel to these countries it is easy to see how a frequent traveller (read smuggler) could become complacent about getting stuff in illegally. When I first travelled overseas, going through customs was nothing compared to what it is like coming back into Australia. And I have been to places where drug smuggelling is high on the agenda - Malaysia, Cambodia, China, Hong Kong, etc. It always amazes me how I have more trouble getting back into my own country.

 

[Calliope]

"kay, if you go to communist dictatorship and engage in activities that have anything to do with human rights or the security industry you are either a spy or a trouble maker. what do you expect will happen?"

Just proving your own ignorance yet again unfortunately because you really are doing yourself an injustice!

You know absolutely nothing about me or my husband or our situation. Frankly, I don't care to explain myself to you either because you obviously have some trouble with basic comprehension. Also, clearly, you are a very closed minded person who should try to look beyond your own views of what you 'think' you know, and instead of attacking someone like me, whom you don't know anything about.... You should get a bit more aware.

For those who would like to be a "bit more aware" of the chain of events leading up to the arrest of Kay and Kerry Danes in Laos in December 2000, I refer you to the following link. It is an interesting story.

http://www.ruby-sapphire.com/lao_sapphires.htm

 

[suehprom1]

Sue can you be careful about what you say about the Indonesians.

My contacts in Jakarta are getting quite upset about this thread. They are a proud people and do not want to lose face.

Please desist lest you imperil Ms.Corby's future remissions.

gg

Hey GumNut I have no malice toward the Indonesian people so keep your advise to yourself. What will Schapelle have to surrender a 30day remission? It is not a secret that Indonesia has a serious issue with human rights abuses. I don't give a hoot who your contacts are. In the March 07' U.S State Dept. report on human rights abuses in Indonesia, it stated; The government generally has been unable to adequetely address serious human rights abuses committed in the past. Inadequate resources, weak leadership, and LIMITED ACCOUNTABILITY contributed to continued abuses by security force personnel... The following human rights problems occurred during the year: unlawful killings by security force personnel, terrorists, vigilante groups and mobs, torture, harsh prison conditions; arbitrary detentions; A CORRUPT JUDICIAL SYSTEM, on and on and on..... no secrets there. Not to mention the 2005 beheadings of three teenage girls. More and more are learning of this and are repulsed.

 

[nulla nulla]

Quoting the United States pointing the finger at alleged human rights abuses in Indonesia really made me laugh. This is the country that "it is alleged" doesn't think twice about kidnapping dissidants, placing a bag over their head and sending them to Egypt for torture, then relocating them to Guantanamo Bay for further psychlogical abuse. Get real.
Reminds me of the slogan during the Vietnam war, "Fighting for peace is like Farking for Chastity".

 

[knocker]

:bonk:Telephone book :bonk: telephone book :bonk: telephone book :bonk: telephone book

lol Got to wonder if he was part of the drug squad with his sympathies towards corby et al

 

[Calliope]

lol Got to wonder if he was part of the drug squad with his sympathies towards corby et al

Yes, it's a bit suss for a an ex-copper to be sympathetic towards a convicted drug smuggler.

 

[pilots]

Hey GumNut I have no malice toward the Indonesian people so keep your advise to yourself. What will Schapelle have to surrender a 30day remission? It is not a secret that Indonesia has a serious issue with human rights abuses. I don't give a hoot who your contacts are. In the March 07' U.S State Dept. report on human rights abuses in Indonesia, it stated; The government generally has been unable to adequetely address serious human rights abuses committed in the past. Inadequate resources, weak leadership, and LIMITED ACCOUNTABILITY contributed to continued abuses by security force personnel... The following human rights problems occurred during the year: unlawful killings by security force personnel, terrorists, vigilante groups and mobs, torture, harsh prison conditions; arbitrary detentions; A CORRUPT JUDICIAL SYSTEM, on and on and on..... no secrets there. Not to mention the 2005 beheadings of three teenage girls. More and more are learning of this and are repulsed.

Sue, have just spoke to two young guys who go to Bali regular for the birds,booze,bongs, they always take boards with them, I like this bit, they have NEVER BEEN STOPPED AND CHECKED GOING IN TO BALI EVER, why did they stop the DRUG MULE, they had been told what was coming.

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

Hey GumNut I have no malice toward the Indonesian people so keep your advise to yourself. What will Schapelle have to surrender a 30day remission? It is not a secret that Indonesia has a serious issue with human rights abuses. I don't give a hoot who your contacts are. In the March 07' U.S State Dept. report on human rights abuses in Indonesia, it stated; The government generally has been unable to adequetely address serious human rights abuses committed in the past. Inadequate resources, weak leadership, and LIMITED ACCOUNTABILITY contributed to continued abuses by security force personnel... The following human rights problems occurred during the year: unlawful killings by security force personnel, terrorists, vigilante groups and mobs, torture, harsh prison conditions; arbitrary detentions; A CORRUPT JUDICIAL SYSTEM, on and on and on..... no secrets there. Not to mention the 2005 beheadings of three teenage girls. More and more are learning of this and are repulsed.

All I'm saying is that your intemperate remarks about Indonesia will not change the system there, and will not lead to an improvement in the chances of Ms.Corby getting a remission in her sentence.

I see that as a sensible comment.

I do miss Zack, even though he couldn't spell venom, or was it you who couldn't spell venom.

Anyway they are my thoughts and it appears more share my thoughts than yours.

gg

 

[IFocus]

Reminds me of the slogan during the Vietnam war, "Fighting for peace is like Farking for Chastity".

Grew up in that period, never heard that one, LOL great quote Nulla

 

[ColB]

originally posted by Suehprom to www.Oprah.com/community/thread

Enough of her time,FREE in 09'- Schapelle Corby

suehprom Posted on Dec 31, 2008 3:32 AM
The epitome of a judicial tragedy has this woman wrongfully incarcerated in an Indonesian hellhole of a jail, in her 5th year of a twenty year sentence for a crime she did not commit. Oprah only you can have the impact that this woman needs desparately and globally to have the bars on her cell fly open from the outcry of reasonable human rights advocates such as yourself. Awareness is growing and spreading but in a prison system where the life expectancy is ten years, a true explosion of awareness is needed. If you look at the case you will undoubtedly see for yourself what has gotten so many people to speak out for her. Schapelle Corby has maintained her innocence from day one and continues to maintain that , "Saya Tidak Bersalah"(I'm Not Guilty). Can you, will you Help ?

AND.......

What would you do if you were arrested abroard for a crime you didn't commit, and got 20 years ?
suehprom Posted on Jan 1, 2009 9:55 PM

This is what happened in real life to an innocent traveler to a tropical paradise, Bali Indonesia. It could have been one of my children or yours. Remember poor Hurricane Rubin Carter. Schapelle Corby is the latest human rights violation story that needs a reexamining of her case. Has anyone elsee heard of this story ?

OPRAH, Are you there? OPRAAAAHHHHH!!! Are you there?

Oprah's reply:

Hi, thank you for your interest in Oprah.com. Unfortunately Ms. Winfrey's schedule doesn't allow time to read or respond to message board postings.

Like Oprah really cares Sue!

 

[FPSS]

The article posted on Ruby Sapphire.... is written by someone who had no idea what was going on... so he just put his own spin on things! I actually know the person who owns that website. If you keep searching you'll find the usual media spin on things that was created by the Secret Police Colonel who abducted my husband and told the media that I had 160kg of sapphires in my underwear. If you believe that, you'll believe anything.

Not sure why you are continuing to try and discredit me. After all, I am NO threat to anyone here.

In reply to the comment made about planting drugs in someone's bag, it happens. Of course the majority of drug mules know exactly what they are doing and yes, many claim they didn't know what it was in their bag or strapped to their body. But there have been some cases where drugs were planted in their bags and they were completely unaware.

 

[pilots]

The article posted on Ruby Sapphire.... is written by someone who had no idea what was going on... so he just put his own spin on things! I actually know the person who owns that website. If you keep searching you'll find the usual media spin on things that was created by the Secret Police Colonel who abducted my husband and told the media that I had 160kg of sapphires in my underwear. If you believe that, you'll believe anything.

Not sure why you are continuing to try and discredit me. After all, I am NO threat to anyone here.

In reply to the comment made about planting drugs in someone's bag, it happens. Of course the majority of drug mules know exactly what they are doing and yes, many claim they didn't know what it was in their bag or strapped to their body. But there have been some cases where drugs were planted in their bags and they were completely unaware.

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Hell you must have good knickers if you can hold 160kg in them.

 

[ColB]

Originally Posted by Garpal Gumnut:

Sue can you be careful about what you say about the Indonesians.

My contacts in Jakarta are getting quite upset about this thread. They are a proud people and do not want to lose face.

Please desist lest you imperil Ms.Corby's future remissions.

gg

GG my contacts in Jakarta have an interest in Sue. Sue's real name is Harry ####### and resides in New York. His ID Suehprom is Morpheus spelt in reverse which is the ID of another free Schapelle campaigner. Harry also uses the ID, 'Dadotara' on other Free Schapelle Campaign sites according to my source. They're popping up everywhere!!

 

[Patsy]

Sue, have just spoke to two young guys who go to Bali regular for the birds,booze,bongs, they always take boards with them, I like this bit, they have NEVER BEEN STOPPED AND CHECKED GOING IN TO BALI EVER, why did they stop the DRUG MULE, they had been told what was coming.

Preposterous hypothesis, but its better than your Shakespeare poem.

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

GG my contacts in Jakarta have an interest in Sue. Sue's real name is Harry ####### and resides in New York. His ID Suehprom is Morpheus spelt in reverse which is the ID of another free Schapelle campaigner. Harry also uses the ID, 'Dadotara' on other Free Schapelle Campaign sites according to my source. They're popping up everywhere!!

Very interesting.

My contact Ms.Tingtong's long term boyfriend works for MI5.

He has been posted to New York by the Brits.

Isn't it a small world.

He's a bit of a dag, introduces himself as " The name is, Punt, Dudley Punt".

I'm quite sure Ms.Tingtong will be on the blower , excuse the pun, to him.

gg

 

[Julia]

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Hell you must have good knickers if you can hold 160kg in them.

That's what I was thinking. Can't believe anyone would suggest this. It would be about twice the weight of a large woman.