Schapelle Corby - Innocent or Guilty?

[BIG BWACULL]

I reckon shoot first and ask questions later with this one

 

[pilots]

Mastermind ah...... Why does the name of a famous German car come to mind?....

How true, She is 100% GUILTY, end of story.

 

[ZackW]

How true, She is 100% GUILTY, end of story.

Because you say so, eh? That's ok then.

What is 100% certain is that:

1. Australians have been opinion managed against her using this process:



This has been so effectively that we see trolls on forums preaching to the world that her suffering should continue.

2. Her human rights were systematically abused via the show trial (http://www.schapelle.net/report.html)

3. The government swept this under the carpet to sustain its strategic relationship with Indonesia, and at the very least, encouraged the media onslaught.

4. Schapelle Corby received a POLITICAL sentence not a judicial sentence: which the government has never sought to address. Had she murdered someone, and not been Australian, she may well have been looking at a far lesser sentence.

5. There are a lot of compassionless sick and stupid people around, who relish the terrible suffering of a woman facing her 5th year in a hell hole, with over 15 to go.

6. The Australian government, through not pursuing the case, has given a green light to dodgy regimes in terms of breaching the human rights of other Australians.


But not to worry, eh? Have a good Christmas. Schapelle Corby won't.

 

[pilots]

Zack, Some of your facts are very WRONG.
1. The weed you can buy in Bali is rubbish, the stuff from Australia is full of THC, a lot bigger bang for your dollar.
No one will buy weed from a local in Bali as you don't know if it is a cop, you only buy from a expact. (we all know a expact who lives in Bali)
Corby I think was a mule for her family, I hope she gets to spend a lot more Xmas in Bali. You have a good Xmas Zack, I know we will.

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

Because you say so, eh? That's ok then.

What is 100% certain is that:

1. Australians have been opinion managed against her using this process:



This has been so effectively that we see trolls on forums preaching to the world that her suffering should continue.

2. Her human rights were systematically abused via the show trial (http://www.schapelle.net/report.html)

3. The government swept this under the carpet to sustain its strategic relationship with Indonesia, and at the very least, encouraged the media onslaught.

4. Schapelle Corby received a POLITICAL sentence not a judicial sentence: which the government has never sought to address. Had she murdered someone, and not been Australian, she may well have been looking at a far lesser sentence.

5. There are a lot of compassionless sick and stupid people around, who relish the terrible suffering of a woman facing her 5th year in a hell hole, with over 15 to go.

6. The Australian government, through not pursuing the case, has given a green light to dodgy regimes in terms of breaching the human rights of other Australians.


But not to worry, eh? Have a good Christmas. Schapelle Corby won't.

Zack mate , you have an agenda, and it coincides with Mercedes taking her tackle off in Ralph and a new book on Schapelle.

I admire private enterprise.

good on you.

However do not lecture me on International Law, a good but poor people like the Indonesians trying to make a quid, and a fair sentence for a drug runner who knew the consequences of her actions.

gg

 

[ZackW]

Of course I have an agenda: I actually support human rights

Those are the rights that Schapelle Corby had ripped away from her via the show trial and brutal political sentence.

These are the same rights which are now far more likely to be ripped away from other Australians, across the world, by virtue of the governments indirect endorsement of this particular abuse.


BTW: I agree that Mercedes actions in being photographed were utter stupidity. Yet more fodder for people like you to deflect attention for the real issues, for whatever motives.

 

[nunthewiser]

geeeeez DO THE CRIME DO THE TIME ... not our problem the halfwit thought she was invincible in smuggling dope into a harsher country .......... stuff her


she was offered DNA tests by oz gov , refused that right ..... stuff her


like i said . do the crime , do the time and stop farkin whinging

 

[ZackW]

geeeeez DO THE CRIME DO THE TIME ... not our problem the halfwit thought she was invincible in smuggling dope into a harsher country .......... stuff her
she was offered DNA tests by oz gov , refused that right ..... stuff her
like i said . do the crime , do the time and stop farkin whinging

Why do people post stuff like this? Fine: I can live with the misguided, heartless, compassionless stuff... but throwing in a smear too?

Listen: Schapelle Corby formally requested testing of the drugs in December 2004. This is actually on record at the Aus Consulate in Bali. Even ignoring that fact, any legitimate court would have required testing of the evidence regardless, before locking someone in a hellhole for 20 years.

It is pointless arguing with someone who won't examine the actual issues though (regardless of how many times they are presented). Presumably totally blinded by the media campaign decribed in the video above, even to the point of not understanding the concept of human rights.

Regrettably there are obviously a LOT of people like that around.

 

[moXJO]

Listen: Schapelle Corby formally requested testing of the drugs in December 2004. This is actually on record at the Aus Consulate in Bali. Even ignoring that fact, any legitimate court would have required testing of the evidence regardless, before locking someone in a hellhole for 20 years.

On December 3rd 2004 Corby signed papers for her consent for testing to be done by the AFP but Indonesian Police would not release a sample. Since then, the Australian ABC has reported that the Indonesian Police did provide the samples and that Corby’s team declined to have them tested.

So is what you posted a half truth

 

[pilots]

It was Mercedes who had the testing stopped.
Now why would she do that??.

 

[nunthewiser]

On December 3rd 2004 Corby signed papers for her consent for testing to be done by the AFP but Indonesian Police would not release a sample. Since then, the Australian ABC has reported that the Indonesian Police did provide the samples and that Corby’s team declined to have them tested.

So is what you posted a half truth

thankyou . and again just for clarity if you didnt get it before...............

stuff her and her ilk .

do the crime do the time

 

[nunthewiser]

ps


my opinion on drug traffickers has nothing to do with the media as i turned the ****e off after listening to another halfwit sobstory from some turd that wasnt happy about another countrys dealings with them .

you wanna dice with those laws .so be it .but shut the hell up and cop it sweet when caught OR she coulda always just said no instead hey ....

 

[Buddy]

ps


my opinion on drug traffickers has nothing to do with the media as i turned the ****e off after listening to another halfwit sobstory from some turd that wasnt happy about another countrys dealings with them .

you wanna dice with those laws .so be it .but shut the hell up and cop it sweet when caught OR she coulda always just said no instead hey ....

nunthewiser, how true; Your use of language is really quite nasty and you totally lack any writing skills. Are you educated? These types of posts are probably more in tune with the folks at HotCopper. Perhaps you should spend more time there, and less here.

Putting aside the fact the (most of) Asia has a strong attitude towards drug use and hence very harsh penalties, the fact is she probably would not even have been convicted in Australia with the evidence presented to that Indonesian court. And even if she had have been convicted the penalty would probably have been less than 1 year. IMO she has been very harshly treated by the Indonesians, for whatever reason. I think it's about time she is let free; it serves no useful purpose keeping her locked up. I would expect k747 to have a quiet word to the indos about this, in exchange for the $1bn.

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

nunthewiser, how true; Your use of language is really quite nasty and you totally lack any writing skills. Are you educated? These types of posts are probably more in tune with the folks at HotCopper. Perhaps you should spend more time there, and less here.

Putting aside the fact the (most of) Asia has a strong attitude towards drug use and hence very harsh penalties, the fact is she probably would not even have been convicted in Australia with the evidence presented to that Indonesian court. And even if she had have been convicted the penalty would probably have been less than 1 year. IMO she has been very harshly treated by the Indonesians, for whatever reason. I think it's about time she is let free; it serves no useful purpose keeping her locked up. I would expect k747 to have a quiet word to the indos about this, in exchange for the $1bn.

Buddy mate , play the ball not the man.

You are assuming that the penalties for drug trafficking in Australia are fair.

The resurrection of this debate recently coincides with Mercedes taking her tackle off in Ralph and a new book from the drug courier Schapelle presently in jail in Indonesia.

What a coincidence on the most popular stock website in Australia.

Many would argue that these low life get treated far too leniently in Australian courts.

I for one think its beaut that one of them gets the full whammy.

Drug dependence causes untold misery to victims, their children, families and the community.

Rudd is to smart to get her back here. He'd be thrown out next election just on that.

gg

 

[adobee]

If you decide to sell or buy drugs overseas you have to comply with there laws.. If you want to buy shares or run companies its the same.. You cant get busted for something in Aus and say hey but I am from lebanon its okay there and the penanlty is 100 dollars so I should cop the same penalty here..

I am sure the Aus Gov has advise from the Feds etc and if they truley thought she was innocent they would be on the case to get her out.. Her Dad is a drug dealing moron, her neighbour grows hydro, notorious drug dealers visit her in prison, her brother is a bad ass who does home invasions and her sisters bali boyfriend is on tape saying what is the big deal marajuana is good for you anyway its medical its so good..

Guilty as charged..

 

[Agentm]

Of course I have an agenda: I actually support human rights

Those are the rights that Schapelle Corby had ripped away from her via the show trial and brutal political sentence.

These are the same rights which are now far more likely to be ripped away from other Australians, across the world, by virtue of the governments indirect endorsement of this particular abuse.


BTW: I agree that Mercedes actions in being photographed were utter stupidity. Yet more fodder for people like you to deflect attention for the real issues, for whatever motives.

yet you fail to mention any other australians!! you support human rights on for those that you chose to but very much forget the other aussies facing the death panalty. why??

in 2005 these australians were facing the death penalty abroad, and we have some of the bali nine in death row. so add a few more. i think Toung van Nguyen was the first one to go, did not receive much publicity..

• Tuong Van Nguyen (convicted of importing 396g of heroin in Singapore). The
PM made representations on Mr Nguyen’s behalf in February 2005.72
• Tran Van Thanh (convicted of trafficking 682g of heroin in Vietnam). Mr
Thanh lost his severity appeal in March 2005 and now relies on the Vietnamese
President for clemency.73
• Tran Thi Hong Loan (charged with trying to smuggle 440g of heroin in
Vietnam).
• Mai Cong Thanh and Nguyen Manh Cong (charged with trafficking 1.7kg of
heroin in Vietnam).74
• Schapelle Corby (charged with trafficking 4kg cannabis in Bali).


imho your surname and your family ethnicity puts you in a lot more favorable place with the media and government. we have saturation of corby and the bali nine on tv, womans day/weekly and any other publication.. we all want stories of corby having a manicure, but dont care to about Thanh, Loan, Thanh and Cong.. nor do we care if their sisters have huge breasts and can be covergirl on Ralph. we dont want to see certain t1ts, only the right breasts from certain families are good enough is suppose.. why is that again???

we dont protest any other citizen from any other country getting the death panalty, nor do we protest against the human rights violations of citizen in those countries also facing the death penalty..

you can well imagine that in asia, the people are not as stupid as you think, and see right through this type of selective media and public support of those without asian backgrounds only being the ones capable of having human rights violations against them and conveniently forgetting the others!!

very transparent and thats all the more reason why the asians see the australians as being very racially selective on a lot of issues. which offends them by the way.

any government or diplomatic protests just heightens and reinforces this view..

lets forget about the others straight away!!

 

[nunthewiser]

nunthewiser, how true; Your use of language is really quite nasty and you totally lack any writing skills. Are you educated? These types of posts are probably more in tune with the folks at HotCopper. Perhaps you should spend more time there, and less here.

Putting aside the fact the (most of) Asia has a strong attitude towards drug use and hence very harsh penalties, the fact is she probably would not even have been convicted in Australia with the evidence presented to that Indonesian court. And even if she had have been convicted the penalty would probably have been less than 1 year. IMO she has been very harshly treated by the Indonesians, for whatever reason. I think it's about time she is let free; it serves no useful purpose keeping her locked up. I would expect k747 to have a quiet word to the indos about this, in exchange for the $1bn.

HI bud,

yes its true , i am totally uneducated , i have no skills in the arts of punctuation or letter writing, im lucky if i can spell 3 words out of 5 .....

just a query ....... what has my english language skills got to do with the ACTUAL discussion champ ?

could it be, you may just be another pedantic nunmut that could not reply to a post in a civil and non attacking way ? pretty sure your style of "attack the poster not the argument " is well rewarded in HC and you will fit right in there champ.

anyways enough of that immature ti t for tat dribble as when you argue with a tool it makes a toolshed


i see you actually ignored the main part of my post where it stated if she was silly enough to dice with an OVERSEAS stance on DRUG TRAFFICKING then she deserves to do the time..it aint rocket science .

asia harsh laws on drugs, why would you tread on there toes ?
oz lax laws on drugs would she have been better off selling her wares here instead ?
anyways i find drug trafickers scum , they poison our children , she deserves everything she gets .

 

[CoffeeKing]

ps
you wanna dice with those laws .so be it .but shut the hell up and cop it sweet when caught OR she coulda always just said no instead hey ....

Agree there nun, your bag - your belongings, pay the penalty...

 

[explod]

i see you actually ignored the main part of my post where it stated if she was silly enough to dice with an OVERSEAS stance on DRUG TRAFFICKING then she deserves to do the time..it aint rocket science .

.

I respect your position, I left school at 13 and struggled till I later educated myself to Univiersity level.

The issue I raise is that it was not established that she had knowledge of the bag contents. The legal process (on which I have a lot of knowledge) was not followed. Ane the court was lesss than a kangaroo show. I'll bet if a few million came up behind the scenes we would have a had a different outcome.

 

[pilots]

Zack, You have not commented on the FACT that it was the Corby team that stopped the drugs from being tested.
Zack, it was her mother who said she did not want her transfered back to Australia to do her time. Life in a Bali jail is OK if you have money.: