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Garpal Gumnut said:
2020 mate, the politically correct Left are more than capable of taking over from the old fashioned godbotherers in lecturing, and hectoring the common people on what they should and should not do.

The language is the same, the content is the same and the methods are the same. Engender fear and you will keep the people down.

Folk like Sarah Palin can cut through all the nonsense, with common sense and acceeptance of human frailty, and thats what upsets the political class.

gg
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Thats funny GG. I seem to remember that it is the right that's been encouraging fear. Be alert but not alarmed and all that. I mean we were encouraged to fear refugees, to fear terrorists, to fear Saddam Hussein, to fear dole bludgers stealing all your hard earned tax, to fear China, etc. Must just be the view from your backyard.

Also if you actually listen to Sarah Palin you will see that common sense is just one of many things she doesn't have.
 
Julia said:
I'm starting to feel a bit nauseated reading this thread. This isn't even our election, folks. Do we really have to get into this level of commentary, none of which is relevant to the current global situation?
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:D.....um ...... dont read thread?....:D
 
Nashezz said:
Thats funny GG. I seem to remember that it is the right that's been encouraging fear. Be alert but not alarmed and all that. I mean we were encouraged to fear refugees, to fear terrorists, to fear Saddam Hussein, to fear dole bludgers stealing all your hard earned tax, to fear China, etc. Must just be the view from your backyard.

Also if you actually listen to Sarah Palin you will see that common sense is just one of many things she doesn't have.
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Yes I guess you are right , it depends on your backyard, your life experiences and your perspective. a good point Nash mate.

gg
 
Debbie Ford - on The Seductress:

This week, I sat glued to my TV watching the Vice Presidential debate. Within three minutes and after the first wink, I became fascinated once again with Sarah Palin. I asked myself, "What is the deal with this woman? Why is she winking at me? Is she flirting with me?" I had to take a deep breath because I noticed this queasy feeling growing in the pit of my stomach.

Then it flashed before me. All of the sudden, it dawned on me that Sarah Palin is the living expression of The Seductress, one of the 20 masks, the faces of the wounded ego, that I outline in my latest book.

In Why Good People Do Bad Things, I suggest that those who don the mask of The Seductress are after making themselves feel better about who they are by getting whatever they might be after. Birthed out of the fear that they are not good enough, loved enough, or smart enough, they search until they find suitable targets to trap in their energetic webs -- in the case of Sarah Palin, first the citizens of the great state of Alaska and now the entire country.

I consider The Seductress a predator because her main goal is to feed on the self-esteem of others in order to soothe her own emotional wounds. The Seductress literally throws out an energetic hook by being kind, loving, interested, sexual and, in this case, folksy -- luring her victims closer, all the while planning her next move.

In my book, "dangerous, poisonous, and venomous" are the qualities I use to describe The Seductress because her main attack is disguised in love and, in this instance, service. "I am going to tell you everything you ever wanted to hear if you just make me the next Vice President of the United States of America."

This is a time to dissect who Sarah Palin is -- her views, her experience and how she lives her life. We must take off her very hip glasses (not her clothes, gentlemen!) to see what's hidden there.

Rather than choosing to reflect the brilliance, the smarts, the power, or the merit she must obviously possess, she winks and flirts, reinforcing all the things for which women are mocked and not taken seriously in the political arena. Can you even imagine powerful female leaders like Indira Gandhi, Golda Meir, or Margaret Thatcher winking at an audience?
 
Doris, you ask "What is the deal with this woman? Why is she winking at me? Is she flirting with me?" .

My guess is that Palin flirting with McCain could be the reason why McCain selected her to be his running mate. There's no fool like an old fool.
 
Interesting comments from noted American feminist (and Obama supporter) Camille Paglia:

Question to Paglia

As I see it, the Palin Effect is a double-headed hydra. On one side you have Todd Palin, who is clearly a vibrant, macho force in his family’s life. Just as clearly, he has effectively embraced the role as a primary caregiver. What does it say that he and Sarah have a mutually aggrandizing partnership/marriage? A successful professional woman who embraces a masculine male rather than castrate him? Heaven forfend! Personally I see it as the benign (and noble) conclusion of the feminist movement. I guess fish don’t need bicycles, but some of them want one. And they’d rather it come with some cojones.

Discussing the Sarah Palin effect is quickly becoming a national psychosis, to which I doubt I could add much. The only thing I haven’t seen discussed is a comparison between her popularity and what Rush Limbaugh hilariously and intuitively called Bill Clinton’s “Arousal Gap." I think we’re seeing that Todd Palin isn’t the only man’s man out there who has a healthy appreciation for a strong member of the opposite sex. Here is another benign and admirable consequence of the feminist movement.

Steve Gurney
Niceville, Florida
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Response from Paglia:


Yes, both Todd and Sarah Palin, whom most people in the U.S. and abroad had never even heard of until six weeks ago, have emerged as powerful new symbols of a revived contemporary feminism. That the macho Todd, with his champion athleticism and working-class cred, can so amiably cradle babies and care for children is a huge step forward in American sexual symbolism.

Although nothing will sway my vote for Obama, I continue to enjoy Sarah Palin's performance on the national stage. During her vice-presidential debate last week with Joe Biden (whose conspiratorial smiles with moderator Gwen Ifill were outrageous and condescending toward his opponent), I laughed heartily at Palin's digs and slams and marveled at the way she slowly took over the entire event. I was sorry when it ended! But Biden wasn't -- judging by his Gore-like sighs and his slow sinking like a punctured blimp. Of course Biden won on points, but TV (a visual medium) never cares about that.

The mountain of rubbish poured out about Palin over the past month would rival Everest. What a disgrace for our jabbering army of liberal journalists and commentators, too many of whom behaved like snippy jackasses. The bourgeois conventionalism and rank snobbery of these alleged humanitarians stank up the place. As for Palin's brutally edited interviews with Charlie Gibson and that viper, Katie Couric, don't we all know that the best bits ended up on the cutting-room floor? Something has gone seriously wrong with Democratic ideology, which seems to have become a candied set of holier-than-thou bromides attached like tutti-frutti to a quivering green Jell-O mold of adolescent sentimentality.

And where is all that lurid sexual fantasy coming from? When I watch Sarah Palin, I don't think sex -- I think Amazon warrior! I admire her competitive spirit and her exuberant vitality, which borders on the supernormal. The question that keeps popping up for me is whether Palin, who was born in Idaho, could possibly be part Native American (as we know her husband is), which sometimes seems suggested by her strong facial contours. I have felt that same extraordinary energy and hyper-alertness billowing out from other women with Native American ancestry -- including two overpowering celebrity icons with whom I have worked.

One of the most idiotic allegations batting around out there among urban media insiders is that Palin is "dumb." Are they kidding? What level of stupidity is now par for the course in those musty circles? (The value of Ivy League degrees, like sub-prime mortgages, has certainly been plummeting. As a Yale Ph.D., I have a perfect right to my scorn.) People who can't see how smart Palin is are trapped in their own narrow parochialism -- the tedious, hackneyed forms of their upper-middle-class syntax and vocabulary.

As someone whose first seven years were spent among Italian-American immigrants (I never met an elderly person who spoke English until we moved from Endicott to rural Oxford, New York, when I was in first grade), I am very used to understanding meaning through what might seem to others to be outlandish or fractured variations on standard English. Furthermore, I have spent virtually my entire teaching career (nearly four decades) in arts colleges, where the expressiveness of highly talented students in dance, music and the visual arts takes a hundred different forms. Finally, as a lover of poetry (my last book was about that), I savor every kind of experimentation with standard English -- beginning with Shakespeare, who was the greatest improviser of them all at a time when there were no grammar rules.

Many others listening to Sarah Palin at her debate went into conniptions about what they assailed as her incoherence or incompetence. But I was never in doubt about what she intended at any given moment. On the contrary, I was admiring not only her always shapely and syncopated syllables but the innate structures of her discourse -- which did seem to fly by in fragments at times but are plainly ready to be filled with deeper policy knowledge, as she gains it (hopefully over the next eight years of the Obama presidencies). This is a tremendously talented politician whose moment has not yet come. That she holds views completely opposed to mine is irrelevant.
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Give Governor Palin her due, she is a profoundly impressive woman.
 
Betcha don't hear about this on Olbermann's rantfest:

Lawmaker's son indicted in Palin e-mail hacking

By DOUGLASS K. DANIEL, Associated Press Writer
Oct. 8, 2008

WASHINGTON - A federal grand jury has indicted the son of a Democratic Tennessee state lawmaker in connection with the hacking of the e-mail account of Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin.

David Kernell, 20, of Knoxville, Tenn., the son of state Rep. Mike Kernell, was scheduled to be arraigned Wednesday before U.S. Magistrate Judge C. Clifford Shirley, according to a statement from the Justice Department.

David Kernell was indicted Tuesday by a federal grand jury in Knoxville for intentionally accessing without authorization the e-mail account of Palin, Alaska's governor, the Justice Department said.
Kernell, an economics major at the University of Tennessee in Knoxville, faces a maximum of five years in prison, a $250,000 fine and a three-year term of supervised release.
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081008/ap_on_el_pr/palin_hacked
 
Umm what has that got to do with anything Zzzz?

Yes her email was hacked and yes it happened to be a democrat lawmakers son. And?

It's no reflection on anyone but the person that did it.
 
Nashezz said:
Umm what has that got to do with anything Zzzz?

Yes her email was hacked and yes it happened to be a democrat lawmakers son. And?

It's no reflection on anyone but the person that did it.
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It is the mindset of the deranged Democrats that allowed this to happen.

Now, imagine if Obama's email was hacked by the son of Republican lawmaker? You don't live here, I'll let you in on something: The MSM would have plastered this on the front pages of the news for weeks. They would have speculated that McCain/Palin authorized it, they would have been talking about how nasty and criminal Republicans are. "What did McCain know, and when did he know it? etc., etc., etc.

You don't live here though, you don't know the one sided media like we do.
 
OCTOBER 8, 2008

Palin Meets Resistance Among Clinton Backers

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122341711146712845.html?mod=rss_Journal_Women

" While some supporters see Gov. Palin's nomination as an advance for the women's movement, some older women who voted for Sen. Clinton say Gov. Palin's speaking style and her past as a beauty queen run counter to their idea of a feminist.

"They made a big mistake with women," Nancy Wilson, a retired, 70-year-old nurse from South Carolina, said of the McCain campaign. The way Gov. Palin "flirts and winks and licks her lips -- women don't like that......"
 
ZzzzDad said:
It is the mindset of the deranged Democrats that allowed this to happen.

Now, imagine if Obama's email was hacked by the son of Republican lawmaker? You don't live here, I'll let you in on something: The MSM would have plastered this on the front pages of the news for weeks. They would have speculated that McCain/Palin authorized it, they would have been talking about how nasty and criminal Republicans are. "What did McCain know, and when did he know it? etc., etc., etc.

You don't live here though, you don't know the one sided media like we do.
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Hmmm... sounds like trust is a factor.

Do you need to feel you can trust your president?
- rely on his word without doubting it and without feeling you need him to justify it?

Which candidate camp has a recent track record of continual blatant lies? ... not 'honest' misinformation.
- 'Obama IS pallin' around with terrorists'!
... as Olbermann reported, Palin's husband is doing this and she did it... with 'her' hands-on preacher.
A 'subtle' one - don't tell your enemy you'll make a preemptive strike - Just Do It!

I read, when it happened, that kid hacked to try to see if he could. He then notified them.
He was discovered because he warned them himself.

And boys are kids until they are 24 (girls 23) when their amygdalas don't control their thinking and responses... this is why car insurance companies have high excesses until 'kids' are 25.
 
Doris said:
And boys are kids until they are 24 (girls 23) when their amygdalas don't control their thinking and responses... this is why car insurance companies have high excesses until 'kids' are 25.
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Keeping them on push bikes until then is a great thing. Keeps them healthy and lower the obesity rate;)

I must have the only teenager who refuses to drive!! She got her licence 1st time 100% score and that's it! Her reasoning was the challenge and ID so people stop asking how old she is.

I told her 'I'll give you $100 if you drive the car for half and hour". Her argument is "it's not good for the world I'll drive when they make a better car". So she walks or bikes it.:)
 
Doris said:
I read, when it happened, that kid hacked to try to see if he could. He then notified them.
He was discovered because he warned them himself.

And boys are kids until they are 24 (girls 23) when their amygdalas don't control their thinking and responses... this is why car insurance companies have high excesses until 'kids' are 25.
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He just did it to see if he could? That is ridiculous. He was trying to dig up dirt on her, and in the process, committed a federal crime. This was political, and you and I and everyone else knows it. Why didn't he hack Obama's or Biden's email?

This kid was trying to be a hero for the Democrats. Instead, he will be spending time in a federal prison (if found guilty). He didn't warn anybody - he just posted everything on an anonymous website. He didn't expect to be caught, he thought he had covered all his bases. He wasn't as clever as he thought though - the feds found him easily.

You Obama supporters would be screaming bloody murder if this man was a Republican, and did the same to Biden or Obama.
 
ZzzzDad said:
You Obama supporters would be screaming bloody murder if this man was a Republican, and did the same to Biden or Obama.
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I can understand that you are incensed by the action of this young man. Zzzdad accidents do happen most unfortunately in the most obvious of circumstances to others. Who is to say people haven't tried to hack into Obama's or Biden's accounts? Should they do so then they should face the law like this young man.

You told me once I only see one side. I think I have given credit where I think it is due. Have you shown any positive comment to the Democrats?

Sarah may not have had all the firewalls and other technology to protect her email - that is the individuals responsiblity. I remember the Pentagon being hacked into.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/9dba9ba2-5a3b-11dc-9bcd-0000779fd2ac.html

http://www.dbtechno.com/internet/2008/08/29/british-man-who-hacked-into-nasa-pentagon-loses-appeal/
 
Green08 said:
I can understand that you are incensed by the action of this young man. Who is to say people haven't tried to hack into Obama's or Biden's accounts? Should they do so then they should face the law like this young man.

You told me once I only see one side. I think I have given credit where I think it is due. Have you shown any positive comment to the Democrats?
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He got into her hotmail account. He probably figured, being such a hockeymum she would have one.
He got info on her and tried lots to work out her password... high school name I think.

So anyone could do this to anyone. It's a wake-up call for our choice of passwords!

And didn't some govt employee get into Hillary's and Obama's passport/travel records?

Enough! ... as Julia would say.

Let's focus on who is better to lead the world. God knows we need to!
 
Yahoo, Hotmail, Gmail all vulnerable to password reset hack

I was wrong... Yahoo - not Hotmail. He didn't finally determine her password. He reset it!
The security question must have been her high school name.
OMG... He (rubico) did people a favour disclosing this:

Computerworld reporters and editors were able to "break" into their own and colleagues' accounts on all three services, then reset passwords armed only with the account's username and the correct response to one of a limited number of common security questions, such as mother's maiden name, the name of a favorite pet or the make of a first car.

Some of the personal information that would provide answers to the security questions may be easily found by searching social networking sites or the Internet, the approach a hacker labeled as "rubico" claimed to have used to dig up the responses necessary to access Palin's account.

Hackers who know the username of an account -- which is often identical to the part of the e-mail address that precedes the "@" symbol -- and correctly type the CAPTCHA (Completely Automated Public Turing Test to Tell Computers and Humans Apart), the name for the distorted, scrambled characters meant to stymie automated bots, are faced with only a security question before allowed to change the account password.

None of the services required that the new password be sent to an alternate e-mail address -- although that was an option for all three -- and instead offered an all-online process.

Adam O'Donnell, director of emerging technologies at message security vendor Cloudmark Inc., said that automated password reset is the rule in Web-based mail, whether the service is free, like Yahoo, Hotmail and Gmail, or offered as part of the monthly fee by one's ISP.

"ISPs have razor-thin margins, and one call to the help desk to reset a password would wipe out the month's profit on that user."

At the time, although other security experts were skeptical of the hacker's claim to have accessed Palin's account through a password reset, O'Donnell had said it sounded "very plausible."

According to rubico, who some have speculated is the 20-year-old son of a Tennessee state legislator, the online research needed to reset Palin's password took just 45 minutes.
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http://www.itworld.com/security/55191/yahoo-hotmail-gmail-all-vulnerable-password-reset-hack
 
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