The power of the mind

[2020hindsight]

Can a wall be knocked down with the power of the mind ?

... One of Kurt Vonnegut's quotes ...
http://www.quotationspage.com/quotes/Kurt_Vonnegut/

Quote:
Those who believe in telekinetics, raise my hand
Kurt Vonnegut

You get the impression that Kurt didn't have much time for this stuff

 

[jtb]

Look forward to a beer with you next time in Australia...

Look forward to it mate, got just the spot.
Hope your an ale man

Bring your shaman

2020,

Did you look into 'Cayce'?

Front page of the 'New York Times' is pretty cool imo. Why don't we hear about this stuff??????????????

Uri Geller is also an interesting case (ignoring the clock stopping and spoon bending stuff) theres a witnessed account floating around (can't remember where I read it , biography or something) where he went to sleep at home in in New York and woke up in a friends house in California (east coast to west coast) a couple of hours later...................
I love that sort of stuff

 

[moneymajix]

I thought about the mind. Then the body, then the spirit.

 

[Wysiwyg]

Can a wall be knocked down with the power of the mind ... this guy keeps trying

There is a guy in the `human potential movement` that reckons he can go through walls ... believe what you will or won`t.

After years of trying, the veil between this world and the next lifted. At first, the walls in my home started to morph from solid to fluid, and then I saw the eternity of creation beyond the concreteness of our earthly existence. Naturally, I wondered if I was imagining it all. But others close to me began to see the same phenomena, and after a hundred such experiences, I started to become more and more convinced. Then, one day, in August 2000, in New Orleans, I went through the wall of a hotel. After that I had no more doubts.

I’m not quite sure how I did it. I wasn’t intending to go through the wall. At first, it morphed from solid to hazy, then it went soapy looking and I suddenly found myself pulled through to the other side. I thought I had been gone only a few minutes, but once I got back to my room I realized the bedside clock had ticked through 50 minutes of Earth time. There is no real time, of course, beyond the Earth plane””everything is eternal. So are you. Eternity, it seems, is what exists between atoms and molecules.

Ive read his books and he does have an advanced understanding of M.E.S.T. Definately pushes the realm of sensory perception and fringes on the nutter though he did show me a door to a different way of thinking (well more mysteries anyway) which altered my perception of and reaction to life.
Another goodly book by a different author is Pull Your Own Strings. The Book brings you to a realisation that everyday in every way imaginable someone is or is trying to pull our strings.
Break free by standing up for your right to exist, listening to your thoughts(are they mine or someone elses) and respecting the people that do `pull their own strings`.

 

[Wysiwyg]

With our mind, through words, we plan the future as we would like it to be.Determination is how these plans come to reality so it could be said that mind power is this level of determination we have.Every day there is a psychological battle taking place.Firstly the psychological battle within, getting up, food, work, money.Then there is the battle of wills between each other, the people we come into contact with.

This year we see the ultimate in determintion with the Olympic Games.The humans that reach beyond the average have a determination to be the best, or compete with the best.

What is your level of determination?

 

[imaginator]

Kennas,

Read books such as

Think and Grow Rich (Napoleon Hill)
POwer of Subconscious Mind (Joseph Murphy)
How To Make ESP Work For You (and old book from the 1960s by Harold Sherman)

You will be convinced about the power of mind. I've been studying this subject since I was 18, and have derived many benefits from it.

Slowly, the subject will invariably trail into spirituality. As Ernest Holmes said "Psychology always leads to spirituality".

Then you should read books such as The Secret. But the Secret is still very shallow and they copied ideas from Jerry and Esther Hicks, so try:

Ask And It Is Given (Esther Hicks)
Power of Emotions (Esther Hicks)
Law of Attraction (Esther Hicks)
The Neville Reader (Neville Goddard)
Science of Mind (Ernest Holmes)
etc

 

[2020hindsight]

lol - and after that, kennas, read the encyclopaedia brittanica

(ps Imaginator - you're allowed to give away some tips - as well as the reference library)

 

[Sean K]

Kennas,

Read books such as ....

etc

Cheers, on the list. Reading something about the 'soul' at the moment, whatever that is. I tend to think it's your personality, moreso than your 'inner being' trapped somewhere in your chest cavity. So, the 'soul' perhaps, is the mind. Trying to bend spoons with it right now, but not having much luck....

 

[2020hindsight]

Cheers, on the list. Reading something about the 'soul' at the moment, whatever that is. I tend to think it's your personality, moreso than your 'inner being' trapped somewhere in your chest cavity. So, the 'soul' perhaps, is the mind. Trying to bend spoons with it right now, but not having much luck....

:topic - but speaking of "soul" ... and personality I guess...

I knew an old bloke - retired radiologist in a country town - became a lay preacher - used to give us religious instruction at school.
I remember him saying "I used to check and double check the Xrays of people alive and dead - there was no difference that I could see."

Also this excerpt from the Eulogy for Douglas Adams (by Dawkins) - lol - the first sentence is kinda amusing - (Adams writes in such delightfully simple words - all ala Hitchhiker's Guide etc)

 

[Julia]

One of the best books I've read in this area is:

"Learned Optimism" by Dr Martin Seligman. Dr Seligman is a psychologist with many years of experience in using thought to determine our outcomes.

There's a bewildering array of books available on this general subject, many of which fall into the category of really rubbishy 'pop psychology'.

However, if they work for some people, then I guess that's fine.

 

[2020hindsight]

http://www.psychic-experiences.com/real-psychic-story.php?story=471

Another one, which I only discovered 2 nights ago, was remote viewing (being able to see things beyond normal human eye) If anyone can give me more examples of this, please let me know. I found I had this ability, because my parents had gone out. I was home alone and I only had my dog to keep me company. I spent most of the night in my bedroom, but I got thirsty and went downstairs to get a drink, when I saw a woman washing her hands in the sink. I said to her, frightened "What are you doing in here?" It appeared she did not hear me. I said it again and she turned around, but not to talk to me but to walk up the stairs. When she did turn around, I realized it was the previous owners of the house. I knew that it wasn't a ghost, because I know her son from my school, so I knew she couldn't have passed. Also, on the same night, it was a full moon. I went outside in the garden because my dog was barking at the door to do so. So, I was standing there, looking up at the moon. I looked at my dog, and then looked back up and realized that there was a tree in front of this full moon. The next day, I asked a few people on here if this was remote viewing after reading someone else's story about it. I gave them these examples, plus an extra one. It turned out all 3 of these were Remote Viewing.

I would be fascinated to know what a shrink would make of all this

 

[imaginator]

Cheers, on the list. Reading something about the 'soul' at the moment, whatever that is. I tend to think it's your personality, moreso than your 'inner being' trapped somewhere in your chest cavity. So, the 'soul' perhaps, is the mind. Trying to bend spoons with it right now, but not having much luck....

bend spoons? good luck!

I tried meditation and Silva Mind Control many years ago. A that time while I was sitll in uni, I had lots of free time to practise. Anyway, one day I achieved an Out of Body Experience after I suggested to my mind to achieve that 2 weeks before that.

Another time after a deep meditation, I could deliberately predict the numbers of a Powerball draw on tv. When the wheels were spinning, I just closed my eyes and a number will randomly appear behind my inner vision. I guessed about 4 numbers correct in a sequence!

 

[2020hindsight]

I guessed about 4 numbers correct in a sequence!

:topic
lol - a buddhist monk shook out my lucky number for me once - 23.

to this day, If I go to a roulette wheel (seriously rare) - I always take number 23 (with or without its neighbours)

 

[2020hindsight]

Hi no we cannot mentally force someone to do something. You cannot force someone to give you money, their house etc. But usually the intention is very important. Your higher self almost always disallows you to use such influence for lesser purposes. It is your inner conscience guiding you.

But if your conscience is good behind the intent, then coupled with the right method you can.... have an outcome you desire.

No sure I'm allowed to reply to a post on a different thread ...
this one from "is there a God" thread.

Imaginator
My reply would be that if you really concentrate, you can affect those things where you have some physical influence - like throwing a dart etc. Maybe even the outcome of a discussion on a salary negotiation - maybe your confidence had an influence on the other negotiator.

But as for "the other stuff" ? - I'm with Kurt Vonnegut - "any one who believes in telekinetics, raise my hand".

Back to the concentration thing. Many years ago, I read Adam Smith's book, "Powers of the Mind". To try to quantify this concentration thing, I used to concentrate like hell on an imagined path of a dart between my hand and a darts board. Then I'd count the number of darts it would take to go round the board (1 - 20). Let's say 60 darts to go round the board. ( ok some people can go round the board in doubles in 60 darts lol).

I'd try it after reading a book - tired, fresh etc etc.
I'd try it after meditating - or after having a few beers - Gotta funny feeling both were equally influential in the outcome lol.

PS not dissimilar to a golfer imagining a cotton thread through the grass on a putting green

Conclusion - there wasn't one

maybe "when you're hot you're hot and when you're not you're not " - but almost bludy random lol.

also that I enjoyed meditating - lowers your breathing by 60 or 80% or whatever - even your heartrate

PS come to think of it, I think best results around the darts board were after a good sweat jogging. - like the Spartans used to say - we should sweat once a day

 

[jtb]

bend spoons? good luck!

Another time after a deep meditation, I could deliberately predict the numbers of a Powerball draw on tv. When the wheels were spinning, I just closed my eyes and a number will randomly appear behind my inner vision. I guessed about 4 numbers correct in a sequence!

Hey zen dudes,

If I've mentioned this before please disregard, but when I was going through my mindblowing stage I tried exactly the same thing (don't we all) and got 4 numbers , missed two by one (said 27 instead of 28) and the supplementary by one

I think I was more surprised than anyone.

Once correctly called 62 tosses of a 20c piece (heads/tails) actually got bored with it much to the onlookers bemusement.

However I think Kenna's shaman had slipped something into my rollie.............

Whatyousee,

In regard to darts, its a bit like listening to Hendrix or 'Zep, an alert mind will only cause you to miss the groove.
Have one more beer than you think you need and then it will come, all feel imo.
For 60 darts you'd want to go around the board twice finishing on the bull and take out two low flying parrots for tea

 

[2020hindsight]

Hey zen dudes,.....

For 60 darts you'd want to go around the board twice finishing on the bull and take out two low flying parrots for tea

crikey
I forgot to mention I had a blindfold on

(and only the triples counted )

PS - you know that blind people play darts don't you!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/ouch/features/crossan_darts.shtml
http://geoffandwen.com/Blind/newsarticle.asp?u_id=14295

A BLIND darts player who "defied logic" with his amazing skills has died.

John Westwood, aged 59, of Pensnett, had lost the sight in one eye and was partially sighted in the other.

Yet despite his disability he could beat most sighted players and even got one over former world champion Eric Bristow at the oche.

Such was his prowess as a young man he was known as Johnny Dartboard and in latter years as The Legend...

......... His only aid when playing darts was white flights, which he said showed up better on the board.

 

[2020hindsight]

For 60 darts you'd want to go around the board twice finishing on the bull and take out two low flying parrots for tea

hey jtb
:topic...
I lived in a ground floor flat in HK for a while -
woke up one night and felt my ear was wet (with blood) - then a rat jumped off the bed .. hid behind the fridge.
I used to play in a darts team .. so I grabbed the new set of tungstens, shook the fridge, and the rat took off for the door.

I threw the dart and pinned him - by the back leg to the floor - as he was getting under the door. Probably 10 metres (ok 5 metres lol) - one of my luckier shots - as you say - when you're concentrating least

So I grabbed a shoe, slowly opened the door with a view to clouting the damned thing. ....
and he took off as soon as the door bent the dart out of the floor.

... but with dart still dangling from his leg.

And I never saw rat or dart again.

PS couldn't afford new set of tungstens , so I just had to improve to the point where I could beat people with 2 darts to their three.

 

[2020hindsight]

Hey zen dudes,

1......Once correctly called 62 tosses of a 20c piece (heads/tails) actually got bored with it much to the onlookers bemusement.

2..... In regard to darts, its a bit like listening to Hendrix or 'Zep, an alert mind will only cause you to miss the groove.
Have one more beer than you think you need and then it will come, all feel imo.

jtb...
1. you're wasting your time on the stock market m8 - you could retire after a run like that at the two-up

2. the idea of "unalert" being better than "alert" is an interesting one...
almost like the old Jedi saying "may the force be with you".

Or the kid learning to ride a bike - should not think about the detail of what he's doing.

and especially he should not look at what he wants to avoid - just look to where he wants to go.

I remember my son learning to ride, (4 year old whatever) - there was a giant grassy field with one little tree (which always took his attention). He would hit that tree every flamin time lol . When I told him the problem was that he was looking at the tree - he'd tell me - "No daddy - Jesus made me do it!"

PS I'm told that after the last Census, that enough people claimed to be followers of "Jedi Knight" cult, that it is now a formal religion in Australia . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jedi

 

[2020hindsight]

PS I'm told that after the last Census, that enough people claimed to be followers of "Jedi Knight" cult, that it is now a formal religion in Australia . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jedi

oops - not a formal religion - "But the Australian Bureau of Statistics said it would be categorised as "not defined"".

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/2218456.stm

More than 70,000 people in Australia have declared that they are followers of the Jedi faith, the religion created by the Star Wars films.
A recent census found that one in 270 respondents - or 0.37% of the population - say they believe in "the force", an energy field that gives Jedi Knights like Luke Skywalker their power in the films.

Most of the 70,509 people who wrote Jedi on their census forms were suspected to have done so in response to an e-mail encouraging all Star Wars fans to get it recognised as an official religion.

But the majority do not seriously tell each other: "May the force be with you", according to Australian Star Wars Appreciation Society president Chris Brennan.

"When you look at it you probably have got about 5,000 people in that 70,000 that were true hard-core people that would believe the Jedi religion carte blanche," he told ABC Radio.

"Then you would have 50,000 fans that said 'oh yeah we'll just put down Jedi for fun, we don't actually have a religion of our own'.

"Then you probably have 15,000 people who did it just to give the government a bit of curry," he said.

'Not defined'

An e-mail was sent around the world in 2001 saying that if 10,000 people declared they were Jedi, it would be recognised as an official religion.

But the Australian Bureau of Statistics said it would be categorised as "not defined".

Thousands of people in New Zealand and the UK also followed the advice of the e-mail - with Jedi Knight even being included on the list of religions by UK census authorities.

questionnaire (questionairre?):-

ideally, your lightsaber would be:
double-ended and just as red as my face
simple, blue, and effective
purple, for no other reason than it's as bad-ass as can be
green. the colour of betrayal
like no other - all wierd and curved... it makes me feel like errol flynn
i simply use the force to **** people up with lightning
lightsaber? who needs one? i've got a gun, and i'm good at running
ooh! a lightsaber? can i have a pink one? to go with my shoes?

 

[2020hindsight]

Just received this email
sorry imaginator - I have very little confidence in this stuff (unless one is very open to 'auto-suggestion' or whatever). Then again I might be misquoting you to suggest you'd go along with it.

GIVE IT A TRY, LETS SEE WHAT HAPPENS!
Dr Seuss

The last time I did this it worked for me too. I wished for a baby, and you all know what happened ( approx. 2 months later). I had to give this a shot..

Don't laugh at this! Just do it!

My best friend just did this morning, wished for her promotion and just got a call and she got it.

I'm SO sorry about this, but I had to keep it going. The last time I
sent this exact e-mail out, I got a new job and now I'm superstitious.

Start thinking something you really really want, cause this is
astounding.. the person that sent this to me said their wish came
true ! 10 mins after they read the mail so I thought what the heck.

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You have just been visited by Dr. Suess's Cat in the Hat.. He will
grant you one wish. Make your wish when the count down is over.

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MAKE A WISH !!!!!!

Send this to 10 people within the hour you read this.
If you do, your wish will come true. If you don't, it will become the opposite.