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i am aussie. i love cricket, footy, beer.
ive felt this for a long time, and after the second test i am certain.
ponting should go.
he does not have the attributes of an australian captain.
relieve ricky ponting of the captaincy.

strategy. tactics. diplomacy. sportsmanship. subtlety. wisdom.
not in his vocab.

who instead? hussey
 
Yeh its not fair is it!

While we're at it
Federer should be banned from tennis.
Tiger Woods from golf
Schumaker from Formula 1
Murdoch from media.
 
The sub continent can only get the umpires sacked - not Australian Captains!

Punter did a great job, they won, he showed good sportsmanship (remember the catch he didn't claim) and fantastic leadership for the boys on the field.

What a load of sooks! I read in the paper they're considering going home. I thought people grew out of sulking before they were 10. They lost, they need to move on and fight a good fight at the WACA.
 
He had the luck with him on the 2nd test.
Hes had the luck of the great players through his captaincy as well but 16 victories on the trot cannot be denied.
Great player but not the best captain but gets the results
 
pffft punter does a great job as captain and the results speak for themselves. Plenty of other Aussie captians have had 'dream teams' without the same results.

And good on him for reporting Singh - I agree that leaving the sledging on the field is good. But racist comments should be reported. And anyone that thinks that 'monkey' isn't racist is deluded - it has been used for aeons directed at africans to suggest they are inferior / yet to evolve into true humans - so when directed at Symonds it was certainly racist (especially in light of the chanting in India that it followed on from).
 
arminius said:
i am aussie. i love cricket, footy, beer.
ive felt this for a long time, and after the second test i am certain.
ponting should go.
he does not have the attributes of an australian captain.
relieve ricky ponting of the captaincy.

strategy. tactics. diplomacy. sportsmanship. subtlety. wisdom.
not in his vocab.

who instead? hussey
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I think Ricky is fine and safe as captain. He hasn't done anything worthy of being sacked over. And he HAS brought home the bacon time and time again.
There is a certain arrogance about him sometimes - maybe I feel he 'talks the talk' and 'walks the walk' - in different directions sometimes.
ie. - He'll tell the opposition players to get off the pitch when given out.... but when batting he's more than happy to stand his ground and stare-down the ump if he feels hard done by. Thats a bit much for me.
But not a sackable offence.

As for the umpiring... well something has to be done there. Bad decisions in this test could well have cost india the match!! and now the series is finished and doomed to boredom!

Unfortunately - the 3rd umpire will probably have to take a bigger role. Either that or they bring in mandatory 'walking' and fine players who can be shown to have breached 'fair play' by not walking if they have hit the ball, or by claiming a dodgy catch. Something like this was suggested by Kerry O'keefe (tongue in cheek) on ABC radio - but actually I reckon it's not a bad idea.
...:2twocents
 
Lucky_Country said:
He had the luck with him on the 2nd test.
Hes had the luck of the great players through his captaincy as well but 16 victories on the trot cannot be denied.
Great player but not the best captain but gets the results
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Yeah, you summed up my thoughts Lucky_Country... as a gentleman of a gentlemans sport... he's not in the same league as AB.
 
Dukey said:
Unfortunately - the 3rd umpire will probably have to take a bigger role. Either that or they bring in mandatory 'walking' and fine players who can be shown to have breached 'fair play' by not walking if they have hit the ball, or by claiming a dodgy catch. Something like this was suggested by Kerry O'keefe (tongue in cheek) on ABC radio - but actually I reckon it's not a bad idea.
...:2twocents
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While the third umpire becomming more influencial is inevitable, players should not have to make an umpiring decision. There are good and bad decisions and players cop their share of both. Why walk when you are going to be given a dodgy out decision the next game.

Ponting is the second best man for the job at the moment and should keep it. It's a shame Aussie keepers can't be captains in the modern game. Also a shame Hussey couldn't find a spot in the team 5 years ago.
 
Whiskers said:
Yeah, you summed up my thoughts Lucky_Country... as a gentleman of a gentlemans sport... he's not in the same league as AB.
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Ha! AB is the original "Captain Grumpy", the '89 Ashes series was where it really came to light.

m.
 
Watching the beach cricket thing in Perth briefly the other day I think they had penalties for not walking. (or maybe that was just a discussion by the beach cricket commentators).

To me the Australian team changes the rule book on whats fair in sledging to suit themselves. Whats ok one week isn't ok the other week - they can dish it out but can't take it and they're doing that under Ponting.

They can cry to mum all they like, but they don't win respect by dishing it out but clinging to the skirts when it comes back at them.

And if you win due to bad decisions - and its denial to not acknowledge there were a series of bad decisions that went Australia's way - then its a hollow victory - not one to be proud of and prance about like Galah's upon winning.

I don't think Ponting or the team is winning a lot of respect by their actions and I don't think Ponting's behaviour is doing anything to further the spirit of the sport.

The reasons the phrase 'its just not cricket' came about are well and truly dead.

In relation to sledging - India's just trying to clumsily match them at their own game - the cultural and language differences don't help the situation either.

If they're going to start penalising certain types of sledging then they should mike up all the players so at least we can hear what really went on.

And if Ponting wants to act all hurt about umping decisions, like he did after his overzealous and aggressive appeal for a catch off the pads yesterday then he should pay tribute to the fact that India is also justified in feeling angry about bad decisions.
 
I don't think anyone could get much satisfaction from that test...it was a joke
by the way if I call my nephews little monkeys am I racist?:confused:
 
doctorj said:
The sub continent can only get the umpires sacked - not Australian Captains!

Punter did a great job, they won, he showed good sportsmanship (remember the catch he didn't claim) and fantastic leadership for the boys on the field.

What a load of sooks! I read in the paper they're considering going home. I thought people grew out of sulking before they were 10. They lost, they need to move on and fight a good fight at the WACA.
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What about the 'catch' Ponting tried to claim which actually hit the ground? Or where he raised his finger to signal to the umpires that Ganguly had been caught out?

Punter is a great leader and player, but lets not get carried away about him being a good sport, because that he is not.

Nor is he a good role model to children. Theres only one in the team who seems to have this character: Hussey.

I remember not so long ago the Australia used to be a very sporting country, which made me envious as an Englishman.

Now it seems Australia has turned into an over patriotic bastardized child of the USA, where it's the winning at all costs which counts, and not the taking part.

As for sulking, I did note that the India squad came out onto the field after defeat and congratulated Australia. Nor did they criticize the umpiring. It was a far cry from the sulking which I've witnessed from the Australia cricket team upon defeats abroad.
 
arminius said:
i am aussie. i love cricket, footy, beer.
ive felt this for a long time, and after the second test i am certain.
ponting should go.
he does not have the attributes of an australian captain.
relieve ricky ponting of the captaincy.

strategy. tactics. diplomacy. sportsmanship. subtlety. wisdom.
not in his vocab.

who instead? hussey
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Sack him for what keeping us on top of the world in all forms of the game?

You're an IDIOT

:D :D :D :D
 
hello,

couldn't agree more about the "monkey" term, where is the racism in that term?

for singh to get 3 matches, wow,

thankyou

robots
 
kgee said:
by the way if I call my nephews little monkeys am I racist?:confused:
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Don't be naive - are they african and are you calling them a monkey to try and degrade them and their race as being inferior and dumber than yours...I doubt it - more like he isn't african and you are calling him a little monkey because he is cheeky / climbs things etc. The monkey chants at Symonds were clearly racially directed and Singh to follow up with calling him it on field was obviously meant the same way...no doubt about it in that context it is clearly racist and should not be tolerated at all - as I said earlier the term monkey has been used for aeons directed at africans to suggest they are inferior / yet to evolve into true humans
 
I do miss Steve Waugh, but you can't sack Ponting when you look at how well we are doing.

As for sportsmanship, I don't think the Indians would have done any different if they were in the same position.
 
No need for any sledging games should be won on ability not name calling.
Warnie would call anyone any name and that culture seems too have stuck get rid of it and grow up
 
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