Dr Haneef

[Superfly]

No way should this guy be permitted entry. Nothing to do with political parties, he was fleeing the country, the Federal Police acted for a reason and one can not expect the Police to reveal all their methods or information as that may simply aid the terrorists...

 

[chops_a_must]

No way should this guy be permitted entry. Nothing to do with political parties, he was fleeing the country, the Federal Police acted for a reason and one can not expect the Police to reveal all their methods or information as that may simply aid the terrorists...

I have this magical bean, which if you look at it, gives you eternal life. I promise you that. It is proven. But I wont let you look at it...

 

[explod]

No way should this guy be permitted entry. Nothing to do with political parties, he was fleeing the country, the Federal Police acted for a reason and one can not expect the Police to reveal all their methods or information as that may simply aid the terrorists...

I dont swallow that, he was leaving because the way the authorities were carrying on he felt threatened. This story is far from over in my view. A lot of hot air was perpetuated by the previous government under the guise of national security and the truth as it gradually comes to the fore will be interesting in my humble view.

 

[BradK]

No way should this guy be permitted entry. Nothing to do with political parties, he was fleeing the country, the Federal Police acted for a reason and one can not expect the Police to reveal all their methods or information as that may simply aid the terrorists...

Shame on you. This guy was found INNOCENT by a court, and as someone above said, this is far from over.

When DUE PROCESS and the RULE OF LAW are laid waste in the fashion in this so-called war on terror, then the times are sad indeed. Keelty, Howard, Andrews all have a lot to answer for.

Thank God for the end of conservatism in this country. Good riddance. What damage it has done.

Brad

 

[jman2007]

No way should this guy be permitted entry. Nothing to do with political parties, he was fleeing the country, the Federal Police acted for a reason and one can not expect the Police to reveal all their methods or information as that may simply aid the terrorists...

Mate,

This case was an absolute farce from beginning to end, and has damged Australia's reputation internationally. I don't believe for a second he was "fleeing the country", I hope Labour and Rudd can right the wrongs done to this man, and give him due compensation. I think Andrews will be ruing the way he handled this case, and mulling over his new-found insignificance.

jman

 

[2020hindsight]

superfly
can you post some links to your claims please
i.e that he was fleeing the country (?)
I mean we all know that he had a oneway ticket, but since it was on sanctioned leave from the hospital , and he was gonna get a return ticket cheaper at "home" then ... ever thought your assumptions might be wrong. ?

PS I's hate to be judged by the fact that I share some DNA with some weirdo second cousin or whatever.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/11/21/2097376.htm

Rudd wants Haneef inquiry regardless of election result
Posted Wed Nov 21, 2007 5:42pm AEDT

Federal Opposition Leader Kevin Rudd says he will keep pushing for a full judicial inquiry into the treatment of Dr Mohamed Haneef, whether he wins Government or not.

Dr Haneef was charged with supporting a terrorist organisation involved in the failed UK car bombings earlier this year, but the case later collapsed and he returned to India.

Kevin Rudd has outlined his priorities in a speech to the National Press Club today and says even if he does not win the election he still wants an inquiry.

"I don't think any of us on our side of politics know precisely what's gone on there other than that something smells," he said.

"That's why I'm serious, whether we win this election or whether we don't that there should be a full judicial inquiry into that matter so that we can get to the bottom of what went wrong.

"It's quite important because that then informs the future debate about the nature of our laws."

 

[2020hindsight]

supefly lol
I think you'll find (working from memory) that he tried to phone the fed police BEFORE he left !!
If that is true , your claims would seem to be "off with the pixies".

In any case, he was never a threat (well according to AFP).

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,22694422-601,00.html

AFP insisted Haneef was no threat
Hedley Thomas | November 03, 2007

TOP federal police officers told the Howard Government on the same day it cancelled Mohamed Haneef's visa that their investigations showed there was nothing to suggest the Gold Coast doctor's involvement in violence or terrorism in Australia.

But Immigration Minister Kevin Andrews insists he relied largely on Australian Federal Police advice to cancel the visa on July 16 after a Brisbane magistrate decided three hours earlier to grant Dr Haneef bail because of exceptional circumstances, including the weakness of the police case.

 

[chops_a_must]

PS I's hate to be judged by the fact that I share some DNA with some weirdo second cousin or whatever.

Mate, I'd hate to be judged by the remote chance of a fact I might have 98% of my DNA in common with SF, let alone if he was a weirdo cousin...

 

[Superfly]

supefly lol
I think you'll find (working from memory) that he tried to phone the fed police BEFORE he left !!
If that is true , your claims would seem to be "off with the pixies".

In any case, he was never a threat (well according to AFP).

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,22694422-601,00.html

Key words being " in Australia"... Haneef was never suspected of anything in Australia... but his visa was canned on bad character grounds. By very possible association with the Glasgow suspects, on a chat room with something like " don't worry they don't know anything about you "...then all of a sudden going to the hospital and asking for leave... one way ticket to India...
Try the 4 Corners interview with Haneef... they ask him some hard questions, though not as many as needed. Haneef's big concern is if he is never allowed a visa to Australia, then he would never be able to obtain a visa to other western countries. Is he so concerned about his family "now", but they were not with him before... he said a lot of bad stuff about Australia on his arrival in India, I saw the Indian news myself. This should not be jumped on by the Labour crew as another anti John Howard thing, though it already is, anything goes with the looney left, Rudd and his half wits may have a lot to answer for someday.

 

[explod]

Key words being " in Australia"... Haneef was never suspected of anything in Australia... but his visa was canned on bad character grounds. By very possible association with the Glasgow suspects, on a chat room with something like " don't worry they don't know anything about you "...then all of a sudden going to the hospital and asking for leave... one way ticket to India...
Try the 4 Corners interview with Haneef... they ask him some hard questions, though not as many as needed. Haneef's big concern is if he is never allowed a visa to Australia, then he would never be able to obtain a visa to other western countries. Is he so concerned about his family "now", but they were not with him before... he said a lot of bad stuff about Australia on his arrival in India, I saw the Indian news myself. This should not be jumped on by the Labour crew as another anti John Howard thing, though it already is, anything goes with the looney left, Rudd and his half wits may have a lot to answer for someday.

I would be pleased if you could elaborate on why you believe the left is looney and some of Rudds associates are half wits because on what has been presented so far from the new ALP Government I am obviously in the dark?

 

[2020hindsight]

, on a chat room with something like " don't worry they don't know anything about you "...then all of a sudden going to the hospital and asking for leave... one way ticket to India...
Try the 4 Corners interview with Haneef... .

Here's that link to the 4 corners thing ..
I think I saw it , and it included that he tried to phone (not AFP but) the British Police - before heading to the airport!.

http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/content/2007/s2048086.htm

LIZ JACKSON: Tony Webster was the British police officer Dr Haneef's aunt had told him to call, to sort out the SIM card issue.

Haneef had stressed to the police at the time of his arrest that he had called Tony Webster’s number three times, before heading for the airport.

These police now knew this was true.

They’d checked Haneef’s phone log, and the UK calls were made at 3:08, 3:29 and 4:32pm, Brisbane time, but the calls were unsuccessful.

MOHAMED HANEEF: I don’t know what, why he was not picking up the phone at all. It was just going blank.

so I think your assumptions are wrong m8

 

[2020hindsight]

Mate, I'd hate to be judged by the remote chance of a fact I might have 98% of my DNA in common with SF, let alone if he was a weirdo cousin...

SF = ?
Saint Francis?

Some fwit?

2/3 of SFA ? lol
you got me

 

[chops_a_must]

Some fwit?

You're half on the money there. Lol!..

 

[2020hindsight]

PS I find threads such as this weird.

I mean, did the recent theft of rockets from the military - and onselling to gangsters and/or terrorists right under our noses get any (significant) publicity?

You blokes know what a rocket can do? to the Opera House etc ? These people (including serving Aus military officers) (if guilty) were serious threats!! - and you say nothing !!?

but you kick up a stink because Haneef's old SIM card was "counties away" from a bomb scene in UK?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/01/05/1822271.htm

Rocket launcher suspect linked to terrorism group
Posted Fri Jan 5, 2007 9:48pm
A man charged with supplying stolen Army rocket launchers is suspected of having connections with a group plotting to blow up the Sydney Harbour Bridge and the Lucas Heights nuclear reactor.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/04/05/1891227.htm

ADF officer in court over rocket launcher theft
Posted Thu Apr 5, 2007 5:48pm AEST
Updated Thu Apr 5, 2007 7:08pm AEST

Two men have appeared in a Sydney court to face charges over the theft of eight rocket launchers from a Defence Forces depot in Sydney.

Forty-six-year-old Shane Della Vedova is a captain working in munitions.

He was brought into the dock after his co-accused, 39-year-old Dean Taylor, a former Defence Force member.

Both men bear the clean-cut and fit look of army officers.

The magistrate has been surprised by an application from the Defence Forces for Captain Della Vedova to be released into its custody.

The lawyer for Taylor says the allegations go back to 2002 and the witnesses may be unreliable.

He says the serious charges will be denied

http://search.abc.net.au/search/sea...ks=20&collection=abcall&query=rocket+launcher

 

[explod]

PS I find threads such as this weird.

I mean, did the recent theft of rockets from the military - and onselling to gangsters and/or terrorists right under our noses get any (significant) publicity?

You blokes know what a rocket can do? to the Opera House etc ? These people (including serving Aus military officers) were seriously nasty types - and you say nothing !!?

but you kick up a stink because Haneef's old SIM card was "counties away" from a bomb scene in UK?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/01/05/1822271.htm



http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/04/05/1891227.htm

http://search.abc.net.au/search/sea...ks=20&collection=abcall&query=rocket+launcher

I agree, such narrow minded (by implication subjects) should be culled out as they invariably end in bitter argument and stalemate. The slur intended on a person that has not had the opportunity to defend himself before a proper and fair tribunal is bad to say the least.

 

[chops_a_must]

I agree, such narrow minded (by implication subjects) should be culled out as they invariably end in bitter argument and stalemate. The slur intended on a person that has not had the opportunity to defend himself before a proper and fair tribunal is bad to say the least.

I'd beg to differ. I think he has been proven to be innocent, and others including Keelty, to be morons and or massively incompetent.

 

[2020hindsight]

You're half on the money there. Lol!..

some halfwit?

 

[golfmos123]

Now I know I am asking for trouble here based on a number of posts in this thread but here goes....

I have a friend in the AFP in Canberra and also know a couple of policemen in Qld who are reasonably well up the totem pole. All have said the same story so I'm not sure I have much reason to doubt it (as they don't know each other).

Now comes the hard part - noone would tell me any particular facts, except for all claiming that there was evidence against the said Dr Haneef on the terror front. But apparently the chances of prosecution were not high, so the charges were dropped and took the softer option of deportation instead. If true, it is NOT a Howard or Rudd issue - it is a policing and court issue (on a side note, I really wish people would stop reading political subtexts into stories, it absolutely sh**'s me when people grind political axes or justify political beliefs that way without knowing a shred of the real issue or fact). I don't know specifics on this case and I know I'll probably cop it for providing hearsay here, but that is what I have heard like it or lump it.

Read your own conclusions and please please please don't shoot the messenger.

 

[numbercruncher]

Why is the guy so keen to leave his wife and young family to come and work/live here anyway ? suspicion should be grounds enough to exclude entry to Aus imho

 

[Superfly]

I'd beg to differ. I think he has been proven to be innocent, and others including Keelty, to be morons and or massively incompetent.

There has been no attacks on Australian soil.... no attacks on US soil since 9/11... thats not "massively incompetent"..... so you can take that airline seat, or walk into the 7/11 and feel safe that you wont find out if there really is a God just yet, because guys like Keetly are doing their job, ask the ever smiling Dr Haneef, although Haneef "says" something so it must be true.

What does something like " don't worry, they don't know anything about you" mean ?... any thoughts....and only a short time after the Glasgow Airport incident... hmmmmm.....

Of course you could do a better job than the Australian Federal Police...