Costello Quits!!

[skint]

I agree with Keating's comments that Costello was the most indolent and unimaginative treasurer this country has seen. Keating made the bold initiatives such as floating the dollar, deregulating the financial markets and proposing to the Reserve a 2-3% inflation target. No such moves by Costello. He just happened to be fortunate enough to be around during the massive global boom. A drover's dog could have run surpluses in that climate. I do think he's being realistic though. If he assumed the leadership, he wouldn't have had it for long with the likes of Turnball looming in the wings.
Below is an article by Ross Gittens of the SMH, that does a good job of dispelling some of the economic myths that have been peddled by the coalition.


http://business.smh.com.au/rubbish-leaders-spread/20071123-1ch3.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1

 

[Julia]

This will make the Labor victory even sweeter. Costello would have been a strong opponent in Parliament.
Good luck to him. Another casualty of John Howard's political selfishness and lack of realism.

It seems Malcolm Turnbull must be the only viable option. But, given the Libs general state of disarray at present, who knows who will become Leader.
Downer has had a go and failed miserably. Surely they won't consider the Abbott!!!

 

[Prospector]

Is this for real? Dammit! Oh crikeys, I hope that doesnt mean our member Pyne gets the gig

 

[Aussiejeff]

This will make the Labor victory even sweeter. Costello would have been a strong opponent in Parliament.
Good luck to him. Another casualty of John Howard's political selfishness and lack of realism.

It seems Malcolm Turnbull must be the only viable option. But, given the Libs general state of disarray at present, who knows who will become Leader.
Downer has had a go and failed miserably. Surely they won't consider the Abbott!!!

Michael Kroger and Joe Hockey are youngish, with somewhat "forceful" personalities. Might be the go for the Libs to have a punt on a newbie....? (it seems to have worked for Maxine!)

The worst part about Costellos resignation is the complete lie he gave to his supporters last night. How could he lie straight in bed after offering them some hope? Not only that, but his shell-shocked electorate will now have to go back for a by-election. Don't be surpised if the Lib replacement candidate gets hammered by the Labor candidate this time around....

AJ

 

[rederob]

The worst part about Costellos resignation is the complete lie he gave to his supporters last night. How could he lie straight in bed after offering them some hope? Not only that, but his shell-shocked electorate will now have to go back for a by-election. Don't be surpised if the Lib replacement candidate gets hammered by the Labor candidate this time around....

AJ

I believe he said he will serve out his term on the backbenches.
If he does not, then add it to the lies he's peddled.

 

[Julia]

Is this for real? Dammit! Oh crikeys, I hope that doesnt mean our member Pyne gets the gig

Calm down, Prospector, there's a good girl. Even the Libs couldn't have that much of a death wish. (Or could they???)
Andrews is of the same ilk.

 

[skint]

Michael Kroger and Joe Hockey are youngish, with somewhat "forceful" personalities. Might be the go for the Libs to have a punt on a newbie....? (it seems to have worked for Maxine!)

The worst part about Costellos resignation is the complete lie he gave to his supporters last night. How could he lie straight in bed after offering them some hope? Not only that, but his shell-shocked electorate will now have to go back for a by-election. Don't be surpised if the Lib replacement candidate gets hammered by the Labor candidate this time around....

AJ

My understanding is that he's decided to carry on as a local member "for now". If he does, would that allow him to have another run from the backbench against a new leader (probably Turnbull) if they slip up? Probably not, but who knows in politics. Kroger, being hard right would probably be a bit of a risk in the current climate. My guess is Turnbull. Like him or hate him, he's probably the brightest and also more adept at reincarnating himself in a more populist mould. Downer, Abboott or Nelson would be a disaster for the conservatives.

P.S. Sheesh! I just realised I asked and answered my own question. I think I've got Rudd's disease!

 

[Aussiejeff]

Hahaha Skint.... that's one of the side effects of "Post Election Fever Syndrome"

When PC says "for now" I suspect he is talking relatively "short term". Of course, I could be wrong! Let's face it - the sooner they sort out the mess of who will pick up the pieces, the better off they will be. How about Mark Vaille? He's trustworthy ain't he?

AJ

 

[justjohn]

Joe Hockey is my tip ,he has had huge media exposure(like Rudd)and also a personality unlike most pollies.:

 

[2020hindsight]

Thanks Peter Costello. I live in your electorate (Higgins, Vic). You stood for yesterday's election and now you're running away. Why bother standing in the first place? Now we will soon have to vote again. The taxpayers will have to pay for your change of mind. How convenient!

greggy - howdy
I don't think he's resigning from parliament - i think he's planning to stick around for 3 more years (as a backbencher)
but I might be wrong (ahh - reading back through the posts , I notice skint agrees )

My guess is that there will be other byelections after resignations however (the likes of Ruddock or Downer etc) - just a guess of course.

Costello was so seriously screwed by Howard - selfish old idiot ! deluded enough to think he was the only one who could do well in an election - problem was johnny - noone could have done much worse


Costello (had he been given some time to show himself as a leader and disassociate himself from johnny's prejudices) would have been a very interesting prospect. Sadly one of those things we'll never now know. - I'm sure that "being taken for granted to the end" finally got the better of his pride

...When PC says "for now" I suspect he is talking relatively "short term". Of course, I could be wrong!

AJ - I think I heard him say 3 years - but you're right - I could be wrong too lol -
and time will tell
and I wouldn't blame him if he left after a couple of years. No one should be treated like he's been treated - I mean , even a dog is entitled to fairness....

Howard should be reported to the RSPCA !

 

[2020hindsight]

Gee Turnbull's looking good isn't he - won Wentworth convincingly against the odds etc.

Maxine as his side kick lol .. (100 to 1?)

 

[justjohn]

surely if PC was fair dinkum and wanted the top job in the first place he would have got the numbers and outed Howard 12-18 months ago :

 

[Mofra]

Joe Hockey is my tip ,he has had huge media exposure(like Rudd)and also a personality unlike most pollies.:

JH looked absolutely devastated on election night, but he really was out of his depth as workplace relations minister. His forte is his likeability, his everyman persona. As minister for the portfolio that caused the greatest amount of angst amongst the electorate, I'm not sure he has enough fight left in him to be the opposition leader in the short term.

Abbott has said in the past he'd like to be leader, but like most people I'd rather eat rat poison than vote for him.

 

[chops_a_must]

Re: Costello Quits !!

Sorry NC , I know you don't like Mr.C. , but I do and am saddened by his departure . All I saw was a man standing up and saying , I'm taking responsibility for this loss too , the generation gap shift , echoed in his response in a call for young blood in the party .

I think the young blood is a part of the problem.

The young liberals are notoriously unpopular, but this generation seems to be particularly bad, even violent now. And it's rather evident in the right wing control of the NSW branch of both the young liberals and the full liberals, and their head bashing ways.

Want to know why the Libs can't win a chook raffle in NSW? It's the so called "young blood". I'm not sure I can see it happening, or helping.

 

[Sean K]

I think Turnbull will get the opportunity to lead the party, but he's not a man of the people. Aussie tall poppy syndrome will not allow him to lead the country.

I rate Nelson an underdog chance. Anyone who has met him or heard him speak may agree.

 

[2020hindsight]

https://www.aussiestockforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=228163&posted=1#post228163

great poem that Tanya Costello quotes from -
THE MOOCH OF LIFE
definitely worth a read folks lol
I always liked CJ Dennis - but this one I must concede had slipped under my radar

Excerpt follows :- (although to extract excerpts from this poem is a crime)

The bold bits are (I think) what Tanya quotes from

Yeh live, yeh love, yeh learn; an' when yeh come
To square the ledger in some thortful hour,
The everlastin' answer to the sum
Must allus be, "Where's sense in gittin' sour?"

..........
Livin' an' loving learnin' day be day;
Pausin' a minute in the barmy strife
To find that 'elpin' others on the way
Is gold coined fer your profit -- sich is life.

....
I've studied books wiv yearnings to improve,
To 'eave meself out of me lowly groove,
An' 'ere is orl the change I ever got:
"'Ark at yer 'eart, an' you kin learn the lot."

.....
I gives it in -- that wisdom o' the mind --
I wasn't built to play no lofty part.
Orl such is welkim to the joys they find;
I only know the wisdom o' the 'eart.

An' ever it 'as taught me, day be day,
The one same lesson in the same ole way:
"Look fer yer profits in the 'earts o' friends,
Fer 'atin' never paid no dividends."

.........
Life's wot yeh make it; an' the bloke 'oo tries
To grab the shinin' stars frum out the skies
Goes crook on life, an' calls the world a cheat,
An' tramples on the daisies at 'is feet.

........

Livin' an' loving wand'rin' on yet way;
Reapin' the 'arvest of a kind deed done;
An' watching in the sundown of yer day,
Yerself again, grown nobler in yer son.

Knowin' that ev'ry coin o' kindness spent
Bears interest in yer 'eart at cent per cent;
Measurin' wisdom by the peace it brings
To simple minds that values simple things.

.........
An' I am rich, becos me eyes 'ave seen
The lovelight in the eyes of my Doreen;
An' I am blest, becos me feet 'ave trod
A land 'oo's fields reflect the smile o' God.

Livin' an' lovin'; learnin' to fergive
The deeds an' words of some un'appy bloke
Who's missed the bus -- so 'ave I come to live,
An' take the 'ole mad world as 'arf a joke.

Sittin' at ev'nin' in this sunset-land,
Wiv 'Er in all the World to 'old me 'and,
A son, to bear me name when I am gone....
Livin' an' lovin' -- so life mooches on.

I mean - I can imagine Costello reciting that poem
but
no way would Abbott have a clue as to what it means

 

[Rafa]

Is this for real? Dammit! Oh crikeys, I hope that doesnt mean our member Pyne gets the gig

Noooooooooooooooo



I cannot believe some of the reports I have read saying Pyne represent the future of the Liberal party... you have got to be kidding me... he is in the same both as andrews, downer, nelson and abbott


Turnbull for me...

 

[chops_a_must]

Noooooooooooooooo



I cannot believe some of the reports I have read saying Pyne represent the future of the Liberal party... you have got to be kidding me... he is in the same both as andrews, downer, nelson and abbott


Turnbull for me...

I don't think Pyne would be. He's the one with the beard I'm pretty sure. Hence him never really being promoted.

Turnbull provides a real danger to Rudd and Labor. As you said in another thread, he appears to be a small l liberal, and may potentially take up the "left" ground on cultural matters, and leave Labor less liberal than the Liberals. And that's the question mark about Rudd, his cultural stance, and if he doesn't appear to be taking a compassionate and centre left approach to cultural matters, he will be in trouble from within.

You may also get a situation where traditional Labor left voters like myself, are once again directing preferences away from Labor. Which is in a big way, what has given Labor this big victory. Will Labor continue to be able to get the vote of formerly disaffected Labor voters? Who knows. But Turnbull has the opportunity to disrupt that voting stream.

 

[moneymajix]

Keating on Costello (1995)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=aaLLP4sc_6Q&feature=related


Memories...


Costello dance

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Iq0ssacReUw&feature=related

 

[IFocus]

Howard has pretty much consigned the Libs to the wildness for some time by not handing over to Costello as per the "agreement".

Costello whether you liked him or not was a far greater team player / intellect than Howard every was just not as sneaky and dishonest. When i think of Howard that phase comes to mind "you can fool some of the people..." As a result Australia I think IMHO lost one of the great potential prime minister's as his ability to think would have served us well.

He was ultra right wing but some how i always thought he would move to the center once he had the requirements to do so.

Focus