The Albanese government

[sptrawler]

There is QandA for that sort of thing.

Yes, then the audience can be pre vetted and coached. Lol

 

[wayneL]

There is QandA for that sort of thing.

If you pass the screening

 

[qldfrog]

He has done it again!!!
..https://www.news.com.au/national/federal-election/federal-election-live-albanese-to-call-election-for-may-3/live-coverage/a2d06889b8e005eaeaf85621656f210b#/entry/25139299
Shameless
Soon, his mum will be Aboriginal and his childhood public housing in Tennant Creek
Bring the Kleenex...
We have actors in politics nowadays:
Trump for his firing shows, Zelensky playing piano with his penis, and dramatic tragic Albanese...
But the blame is on the voters..the dramatic downfall of the western masses

 

[Sean K]

Has anyone seen the Pilbo air kiss attempt with Albo today?

Albo knows she has the knives out.

If Anthony Albanese wins a majority victory at the May 3 election – as some Labor figures are now confident he will – the Prime Minister will need to manage the competitive juices flowing across his frontbench.

Despite three-weeks of campaigning left to go, the confidence and hubris on show at Albanese’s campaign launch in the Perth Convention Centre was overwhelming.

In front of a crowd of 500 diehard and mostly older Labor supporters, Albanese shared an awkward moment with Left-faction rival Tanya Plibersek as he greeted Cabinet ministers.

After stripping Plibersek of the education and women portfolios in the wake of the 2022 election and appointing the 55-year-old as Environment and Water Minister, Albanese subsequently overruled her on key issues involving environmental laws and salmon farming.

Following campaign launch speeches from Anne Aly, Richard Marles and WA Premier Roger Cook, Albanese and fiancee Jodie walked out to greet the faithful. As the 62-year-old approached Plibersek, she held up her hands and blew him an awkward air kiss before giving Jodie a proper peck on the cheek.

 

[Smurf1976]

As the 62-year-old approached Plibersek, she held up her hands and blew him an awkward air kiss before giving Jodie a proper peck on the cheek.

She's the woman who didn't understand the concept of aspiration, right?

The on who blocked a gold mine due to indigenous heritage that even the local Aboriginal tribe knows nothing about.

She's too close to the very thing Labor needs to distance itself from to be electable.

 

[JohnDe]

I think this is a bit harsh, but it is closer to reality than I'd like -

 

[sptrawler]

I think this is a bit harsh, but it is closer to reality than I'd like -

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Unfortunately, there doesn't appear to be many that will make Australia great again, way too busy pizzing on themselves and doing nothing IMO.
It's a bit like my local council, they spend zillions re doing the foreshore every few years.

Meanwhile traffic banks up for miles through the centre of town, when they could bypass it by building another bridge.

Meanwhile tge mayor has moved on to State politics to carry forward the brain farts.

 

[Smurf1976]

Unfortunately, there doesn't appear to be many that will make Australia great again, way too busy pizzing on themselves and doing nothing IMO.

I know a few people, including myself, who at some point considered pursuing a political career.

Every single one of them decided against it once they realised the practical realities. Either try and get in as an independent where the odds are you'll achieve not much (slim chance of an exception to that), or join one of the parties and have to toe the line whilst being subject to the ultimate form of "office politics" in the selection process, who gets promoted and so on.

That's not seeking to say that I or anyone I know would necessarily be good in politics, but I do think the system drives away anyone who would. It' favours the alpha male types over intellect, hence we get people who are good at talking but not so good at knowing what they're talking about.

 

[sptrawler]

It' favours the alpha male types over intellect, hence we get people who are good at talking but not so good at knowing what they're talking about.

As happens in most workplaces. Lol

 

[Smurf1976]

As happens in most workplaces. Lol

Agreed that's true but at least with any normal workplace you won't cop multiple layers of it.

With politics there's a layer of it for pre-selection, another one from the public to actually get elected, then there's internal politics within the party, then there's the actual job itself.

End result is even if someone has intellect and good ideas, they're not likely to get to implement them. Even if someone makes it to PM, realistically they might get one notable thing done and that's it.

My conclusion is that if the West is to rebuild then the role of government needs to be limited to that of an overseer and gatekeeper rather than the primary doer. We need experts coming up with the ideas and politicians scrutinising those experts but that's it, once the scrutiny's done then either accept or reject the idea and let them get on with it.

I don't see that as radical, it's really just how the world worked prior to changing during the 1980's.

 

[JohnDe]

We are going to see a new Australian historical partnership with China and Russia, as soon as the election is over and the Albanese government push towards a future seen through their eyes.

Anthony Albanese, Foreign Minister Penny Wong and Mr Marles have all said Indonesia told the government there was “no prospect” of Russia using its Papua base.​

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But the Prime Minister and other Labor ministers have repeatedly refused to say whether Indonesia said Russia never made the request or the request was simply rejected.​

Russia’s actions in SE Asia are undeniable. Why is Anthony Albanese playing dumb on this?​

The Russian effort to become a military presence in Southeast Asia, especially in Indonesia, is sustained, undeniable and deeply antagonistic to Australia’s national interests.

Peter Dutton is right to make a fuss of it. The Albanese government is breaching the spirit, if not the letter, of the caretaker conventions by refusing to give the opposition a briefing on the issue.

If nothing’s happening, why is the government scared of giving a briefing? In fact our intelligence agencies would have metaphorically thick files full of material about Moscow’s military relationship with Jakarta.

Russia is Indonesia’s main military supplier. Prabowo Subianto visited Vladimir Putin in Moscow before his inauguration as president. Since then Indonesia has hosted Russia’s Defence Minister, Deputy Prime Minister and sundry defence officials. Does the Labor government think they were in Indonesia for a holiday?

Bland assurances from Defence Minister Richard Marles that there’s nothing to see here are about as reassuring as his promises to spend serious money on defence some time in the distant future. Don’t be fooled, don’t be reassured.

Russian Ambassador to Indonesia Sergei Tolchenov. Picture: X
The comments by Russian ambassador to Jakarta, Sergei Tolchenov, were extraordinary. At a time when the Indonesia government was making some modest effort to hose the story down, he declared that military-to-military co-operation was at the heart of the Moscow-Jakarta relationship.

He also attacked the presence of US forces in Darwin and ludicrously claimed they posed a military threat to Indonesia and other Southeast Asian nations. Why is Russia worried about US forces in Darwin? The logical answer, the only answer, is Moscow is acting on behalf of, or at the least in deepest co-ordination with, Beijing.

This is happening as evidence mounts of sustained Chinese assistance for the Russian war in Ukraine. Russia wants a position in Southeast Asia for reasons independent of China. It has done well in keeping up its trade with the global south. It does a significant commodities trade with Indonesia, as it does with India.

But in its military efforts in Southeast Asia, Moscow is clearly acting to help Beijing.

To understand the geography of Beijing’s military strategy just look at Japan’s during World War II. The Pacific war was fought predominantly in archipelagic Southeast Asia and in the island nations of the South Pacific.

Beijing has been relentless in chasing security agreements in the South Pacific with a view to ultimately securing a military base there, which would be disastrous for Australia. At the same time it is establishing military bases and a military presence across Southeast Asia, the most obvious example being the militarisation of islands, including artificial islands, in the South China Sea.

Although mainland Chinese money is influential in Indonesia, there is a long, neuralgic relationship between the two nations, including everything from disputes over waters surrounding the Natuna islands, the history of persecution of the ethnic Chinese minority in Indonesia and the history of Beijing’s involvement in the Indonesian communist movement in the 1960s.

Moscow faces none of those historical issues in Indonesia so it can do things militarily that Beijing probably couldn’t do.

There is no chance Indonesia, fanatically devoted to Non-Aligned Movement ideology in foreign policy, would ever allow any foreign nation to establish a permanent military base on its territory. It’s therefore likely Moscow didn’t formally ask for a permanent base. But there are a thousand other ways Russia could establish a sustained military presence.

Last November the two nations conducted their first maritime exercises. As well as being a menacing military presence, Russian forces would be engaged in deep intelligence gathering, surveillance, mapping and the rest. Then there was the intriguing statement from the Indonesian Foreign Ministry that Jakarta would always welcome foreign militaries for peaceful purposes.

Nothing to see here, say Anthony Albanese and Marles. We could hardly hear more worrying words.

 

[Knobby22]

We are going to see a new Australian historical partnership with China and Russia, as soon as the election is over and the Albanese government push towards a future seen through their eyes.

Anthony Albanese, Foreign Minister Penny Wong and Mr Marles have all said Indonesia told the government there was “no prospect” of Russia using its Papua base.​

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But the Prime Minister and other Labor ministers have repeatedly refused to say whether Indonesia said Russia never made the request or the request was simply rejected.​

Duttons apologised.
You can't verbal other countries especially Indonesia who are close neighbours. Foreign affairs need tact.

The Australian is a rag.
Dutton's biggest mistakes have been lcaused by listening to it.

 

[sptrawler]

The great thing this election will be remembered for, will be that it actually was when Australian politics hit rock bottom, if this is the best that is on offer from all sides of politics in Australia, God help us.

 

[wayneL]

The great thing this election will be remembered for, will be that it actually was when Australian politics hit rock bottom, if this is the best that is on offer in Australia, God help us.

It reflects Australian society as a whole, all present company excepted of course.

 

[sptrawler]

It reflects Australian society as a whole, all present company excepted of course.

It is just sad IMO, the global situation has brought into focus that Western countries need to get their fiscal situation in order, as a trade war is likely to happen, what do we get on the cusp of an election?
All sides of the political spectrum throwing money around with gay abandon and not a mention on how we will fix the debt, how we will turn around our declining educational outcomes, or how we will make Australia pay its way, let alone make it great again. Lol
I'm sure kids today must wonder what the hell is the point, I'm not going to get anywhere, a sad situation IMO.
It isn't Albo's fault IMO, it is just a case of seat polishers have filled parliament to capacity and small brains can't come up with great plans.
Just my opinion.

 

[IFocus]

It is just sad IMO, the global situation has brought into focus that Western countries need to get their fiscal situation in order, as a trade war is likely to happen, what do we get on the cusp of an election?
All sides of the political spectrum throwing money around with gay abandon and not a mention on how we will fix the debt, how we will turn around our declining educational outcomes, or how we will make Australia pay its way, let alone make it great again. Lol
I'm sure kids today must wonder what the hell is the point, I'm not going to get anywhere, a sad situation IMO.
It isn't Albo's fault IMO, it is just a case of seat polishers have filled parliament to capacity and small brains can't come up with great plans.
Just my opinion.

You voted against all of that.... you get what you vote for simple.

Franking credits.....

 

[sptrawler]

You voted against all of that.... you get what you vote for simple.

Franking credits.....

Yes franking credits, CG tax on the ppr, inheritance tax, PPR in the assett test, negative gearing only against the assett not against wages etc, they will all come under review, no doubt. Lol
Maybe they will take the child endowment off single mums again, like Julia did, who knows, time will tell.

 

[Smurf1976]

You voted against all of that.... you get what you vote for simple.

Franking credits.....

What's the actual problem with franking credits?

It's a credit for tax paid, nothing more and nothing less.

Literally every employee receives what is effectively the same thing. Their employer deducts PAYE tax (Income Tax) throughout the year and at the end of the financial year when the employee completes their Tax Return they receive full credit for that tax already paid. If too much has been paid then they'll receive a refund of the excess amount in full.

Exact same arrangement with franking credits. Tax is deducted during the year, the shareholder receives credit for that at the end of the financial year. If not enough has been paid then they are required to pay the outstanding balance. If too much has been paid then they receive a refund.

If we're going to get rid of franking credits then logically we'd scrap PAYE credits as well. That would of course just about double Income Tax rates and lead to riots in the street, but it'd be a consistent approach.

 

[sptrawler]

What's the actual problem with franking credits?

It's a credit for tax paid, nothing more and nothing less.

Literally every employee receives what is effectively the same thing. Their employer deducts PAYE tax (Income Tax) throughout the year and at the end of the financial year when the employee completes their Tax Return they receive full credit for that tax already paid. If too much has been paid then they'll receive a refund of the excess amount in full.

Exact same arrangement with franking credits. Tax is deducted during the year, the shareholder receives credit for that at the end of the financial year. If not enough has been paid then they are required to pay the outstanding balance. If too much has been paid then they receive a refund.

If we're going to get rid of franking credits then logically we'd scrap PAYE credits as well. That would of course just about double Income Tax rates and lead to riots in the street, but it'd be a consistent approach.

Some people just can't move on, obviously he's still upset that Billy didn't get the win in 2019, obsessive compulsive issue.

Billy didn't get the job finished and some just can't deal with incomplete issues that they are rusted on to, in a cult like manner.
Let's be honest even Bill and the Party stopped talking about franking credits ages ago.

Obsessive-compulsive personality disorder is characterized by a pervasive preoccupation with orderliness, perfectionism, and control (with no room for flexibility).

 

[IFocus]

What's the actual problem with franking credits?

It's a credit for tax paid, nothing more and nothing less.

Literally every employee receives what is effectively the same thing. Their employer deducts PAYE tax (Income Tax) throughout the year and at the end of the financial year when the employee completes their Tax Return they receive full credit for that tax already paid. If too much has been paid then they'll receive a refund of the excess amount in full.

Exact same arrangement with franking credits. Tax is deducted during the year, the shareholder receives credit for that at the end of the financial year. If not enough has been paid then they are required to pay the outstanding balance. If too much has been paid then they receive a refund.

If we're going to get rid of franking credits then logically we'd scrap PAYE credits as well. That would of course just about double Income Tax rates and lead to riots in the street, but it'd be a consistent approach.

The discussion has been done to death I would never agree that the changes after 2000 were worthy likely just vote buying by Howard as for Shorten I never liked him (AWU) every chance he would have made a better PM than SP’s love child Morrison but was just reminding SP he is taking welfare that is a net negative from federal revenue