Western society is doomed

[luutzu]

The problem with a welfare system is, not everyone is honest, if everyone was honest it would work.

I don't think any system should be designed on the assumption that people will be honest. Social security/welfare, was never designed on that basis either.

 

[sptrawler]

I don't think any system should be designed on the assumption that people will be honest. Social security/welfare, was never designed on that basis either.

If that is the case, why complain about welfare systems?

 

[luutzu]

If that is the case, why complain about welfare systems?

I don't think people complain about welfare because they have checks and audits.

There is a lot of misinformation out there about welfare, how much is spent on it, who receives it. etc.

It's all designed to pit one part of society against another, both of whom are often its most disadvantaged and vulnerable. Well, it also served to make those a-holes rich [note, not all rich are a-holes] who actually, honestly believe the poor are having it too good while they're working their butts off watching their trust funds not paying enough dividend for that yacht daddy promised.

Seriously, I have heard from welfare cheats [who are White if you could believe that] talking about other welfare recipients as underserving, drugged out lazy, no good leeches.

As to capitalists... I read a fair number of business biographies... Jesus man, the kind of welfare those entrepreneurs get from government makes the Queen and all her royal offsprings looks like a typical refugee family living off of welfare.

 

[sptrawler]

I don't think people complain about welfare because they have checks and audits.

There is a lot of misinformation out there about welfare, how much is spent on it, who receives it. etc.

It's all designed to pit one part of society against another, both of whom are often its most disadvantaged and vulnerable. Well, it also served to make those a-holes rich [note, not all rich are a-holes] who actually, honestly believe the poor are having it too good while they're working their butts off watching their trust funds not paying enough dividend for that yacht daddy promised.

Seriously, I have heard from welfare cheats [who are White if you could believe that] talking about other welfare recipients as underserving, drugged out lazy, no good leeches.

As to capitalists... I read a fair number of business biographies... Jesus man, the kind of welfare those entrepreneurs get from government makes the Queen and all her royal offsprings looks like a typical refugee family living off of welfare.

As you know, I don't disagree with your sentiment, but I do disagree that most welfare recipients are incapable of doing meaningful work.
I know someone close to me, who has chosen the path of welfare dependence, over seeking meaningful employment.
Through him, I have been introduced to a sub set of people, who find it more attractive to have a meagre existence. Than be time poor, by being employed.
How do you remedy that? when they have a trade, that is in demand, but they would rather group together, pool resources and live on welfare.
Oh and by the way, they are white.

 

[moXJO]

As you know, I don't disagree with your sentiment, but I do disagree that most welfare recipients are incapable of doing meaningful work.
I know someone close to me, who has chosen the path of welfare dependence, over seeking meaningful employment.
Through him, I have been introduced to a sub set of people, who find it more attractive to have a meagre existence. Than be time poor, by being employed.
How do you remedy that? when they have a trade, that is in demand, but they would rather group together, pool resources and live on welfare.
Oh and by the way, they are white.

I know plenty the same. Can work but don't want to.

 

[luutzu]

As you know, I don't disagree with your sentiment, but I do disagree that most welfare recipients are incapable of doing meaningful work.
I know someone close to me, who has chosen the path of welfare dependence, over seeking meaningful employment.
Through him, I have been introduced to a sub set of people, who find it more attractive to have a meagre existence. Than be time poor, by being employed.
How do you remedy that? when they have a trade, that is in demand, but they would rather group together, pool resources and live on welfare.
Oh and by the way, they are white.

If people find it better to just live on meagre benefits from welfare, that is unfortunate but the blame can't solely be at their feet.

Make policies that inspire people, give them hope that if they work hard they will lift themselves up and prosper.

Make policies where they study, work hard, pay their taxes, do the right thing... then gets fired whenever, earn barely above subsistence. What do we expect people to do?

 

[luutzu]

I know plenty the same. Can work but don't want to.

Yea, there's quite a few over-achievers who make a lot of us look really bad

Like that comedian Anh Do. I heard of kids whose mother hang out with his. Boy don't he make all of us bad.

Did you know that he have a house by the ocean? For his studio. And his mum can invite her closest friends, like me, to vacation there? [Where's your beach house, son?]

Did you know that he writes? Paint? Meet famous stars? Produce TV shows? Write children's books? Tell funny jokes... they're not that funny.

What a multi talented overachieving clown that guy.

 

[sptrawler]

Yea, there's quite a few over-achievers who make a lot of us look really bad

Like that comedian Anh Do. I heard of kids whose mother hang out with his. Boy don't he make all of us bad.

Did you know that he have a house by the ocean? For his studio. And his mum can invite her closest friends, like me, to vacation there? [Where's your beach house, son?]

Did you know that he writes? Paint? Meet famous stars? Produce TV shows? Write children's books? Tell funny jokes... they're not that funny.

What a multi talented overachieving clown that guy.

He is a really funny guy, went and saw him when he came to W.A top bloke.

 

[Tisme]

We are fast becoming the passive Eloi for the consumption of the Morlocks:

 

[luutzu]

He is a really funny guy, went and saw him when he came to W.A top bloke.

Yea, he seems a decent bloke.

 

[Macquack]

But there is a homeless community living in tents hidden in the sand dunes of the beach where I live. Maybe I've just been ignoring the growing numbers.

Where is this free beachfront haven?

Sure you are not confusing "tents" with "camper trailers", and "homeless community" with a bunch of "grey nomads".

 

[moXJO]

Where is this free beachfront haven?

Sure you are not confusing "tents" with "camper trailers", and "homeless community" with a bunch of "grey nomads".

Na, no $200k winnebagos hanging around.

Its right near the local city as well. I took the dog for a walk that way and was chatting to a few of them. Some have jobs but went through divorce. Others were raging ice addicts and some had mental health issues.
Can't afford rent and no place to go.

 

[cynic]

We are fast becoming the passive Eloi for the consumption of the Morlocks:

Too true!

That clip amply demonstrates the horrendous plight of those poor misunderstood Morlocks, left to toil with ancient machinery, in their miserable, dark, underground existence, whilst the Eloi get to enjoy a carefree overground existence, frolicking in the sunlight.

The sheer audacity of that horrible,nasty, centuries old, genocidal maniac (worse than any dictator ever known to man)!

To so hastily barge into the scene, armed with potent and arcane, pre-Utopian chicanery, viciously bullying the most vulnerable citizens (in all of Utopia), primarily via his dastardly exploitation of matchbox weaponry!!

Those unsuspecting Morlocks never stood a chance!!!

And to ponder on the spooky similarity, to that which is being experienced in current times, sends shivers up one's spine!
(Could it be, that some lack the spine, requisite for the sensation, and subsequent recognition, of such fear?!)

 

[wayneL]

 

[moXJO]

Lowering standards makes everything better.
This is why woke trend's need to die now before too much damage is done.

 

[sptrawler]

Lowering standards makes everything better.
This is why woke trend's need to die now before too much damage is done.

That was amazing, the reporter just purposefully trying to manipulate the narrative, the Western World is going mad.
It's becoming hard to believe, this isn't actually the intended outcome, discredit anyone who tries to demand we strive to maintain our standards.
It's as though there is a push to find a lowest common denominator in Western Societies, which is a noble cause, but would be a shock for many.
That reporter grasped the concept o.k, he just wanted to change the concept.

 

[wayneL]

 

[wayneL]

1/ Nobody seems willing to take about this.

2/ People seem to be terrified of just having an inane chat about whatever (with a small number of exceptions)

I was just at the pub by myself having a counter lunch. Trying to have a brief chat was like as if I was dressed in a raincoat and had just exposed myself.

What has gone wrong?

 

[Knobby22]

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[wayneL]

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Yep sure, agreed.

Equally, as you seem to be aware of this, you might be open to a chat with some random down at the pub, like me? Would it be reasonable to expect there is more than just you and me?

I remember times when one could get into a deep conversation with someone you'd only just met, and perhaps may never see again. That was only ~15 years ago.

Have we changed so profoundly, do quickly?

If so, how have "we" allowed this?