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moXJO said:
I'm just debunking any lies that I see. Majority are about Trump. Majority you fall for and then regurgitate them here. I'm providing reality. Here's what he said about being a "dictator".




How the hell do you clutch pearls over a throwaway comment at a rally. The media will do anything to paint him with their bs narrative. But everyone notices now. We have had 8 years of media bs. Everyone already knows its bs. One of the reasons I'm sick of pulling apart your Trump hits. They are majority bs.
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That wasn't a "throwaway comment" . He repeated and expanded it in other forums.

The "lies" about Donald Trump ? Xuck all Moxjo. The lies, abuse, threats that Trump generates every day ? In their thousands.

The consequences of these lies and threats ? Trump has relentlessly abused the Judges, Prosecutors , witnesses and legal staff who have been part of the civil/criminal trials he is facing. And directly because of these lies and threats his supporters have been abusing , threatening and doxing these people.

If this man was just a common person facing charges of business fraud and defamation allegations his threats and abuse of the legal system would be quickly treated with contempt of court orders. As it is he has escaped to date the normal legal consequences of his behavior.

The stinking BS moxjo is Trump.

Trump’s Threats of Violence Are too Dangerous to Disregard​

As the various investigations around the former President close in on him, his campaign to discredit and intimidate his accusers will only intensify.
www.newyorker.com

Trump’s Threats of Violence Are Too Dangerous to Disregard

As the various investigations around the former President close in on him, his campaign to discredit and intimidate his accusers will only intensify.
www.newyorker.com www.newyorker.com
 
As is happening in most western countries, people are pushing back the only way they can, at the polling booth.

The establishment and media have their pet sectors of society, so the options available to the middle class are limited.

The fact the media and elites are having a meltdown, just further benefits Trump cause and give him more traction.

There are very few Trump supporters being outspoken on here, mainly haters having constant meltdowns and constantly posting media artics from obviously anti Trump media.

Time will tell as usual, but the panic button being pressed in Canberra, tells us that the anti elite trend is licking up here.
 
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basilio said:
That wasn't a "throwaway comment" . He repeated and expanded it in other forums.

The "lies" about Donald Trump ? Xuck all Moxjo. The lies, abuse, threats that Trump generates every day ? In their thousands.

The consequences of these lies and threats ? Trump has relentlessly abused the Judges, Prosecutors , witnesses and legal staff who have been part of the civil/criminal trials he is facing. And directly because of these lies and threats his supporters have been abusing , threatening and doxing these people.

If this man was just a common person facing charges of business fraud and defamation allegations his threats and abuse of the legal system would be quickly treated with contempt of court orders. As it is he has escaped to date the normal legal consequences of his behavior.

The stinking BS moxjo is Trump.

Trump’s Threats of Violence Are too Dangerous to Disregard​

As the various investigations around the former President close in on him, his campaign to discredit and intimidate his accusers will only intensify.
www.newyorker.com

Trump’s Threats of Violence Are Too Dangerous to Disregard

As the various investigations around the former President close in on him, his campaign to discredit and intimidate his accusers will only intensify.
www.newyorker.com www.newyorker.com
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You mean the hatchet job prosecutors coming out of NY. You taken a good look into those prosecutors or just parroting papers. It's a case of lawfare.

Either way, I don't think Trump will win unless he puts Haley as VP. Even then I'm still not convinced he can win. I'm not a big fan of any of the Republican candidates.
 
moXJO said:
You mean the hatchet job prosecutors coming out of NY. You taken a good look into those prosecutors or just parroting papers. It's a case of lawfare.
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Rubbish.. Trump corporation acted fraudulently over many years. Hundreds of millions of dollars of false property valuations designed to gain more favourable loan conditions and/or reduce local property taxes. They got it both ways.
Proven guilty. Awaiting sentence.

Defamation against Jean Carroll. Lied, lied and continues to lie about his sexual abuse of her in the 90's . Found guilty of defamation - then goes out and maintains the lie. Sics his followers onto Jean to make her life a misery in revenge.

But its not just women who call him out for his sexual abuse or courts that find him guilty that are trashed by Donald Trump. He makes no bones about going after anyone who stands against him. How do you think Trump avoided impeachment after the outrageous attempt to stop Congress counting the electoral votes ?

This story goes into how effective Trumps vigilante justice program has impacted on the US. He is a menace.

As the election looms, we must be alert to Trump’s threats of vigilante justice​

Robert Reich
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There is a direct and alarming link between Trump’s political rise and the increase in political violence and threats in America

Donald Trump has galvanized an army of vigilantes who are casting a fearsome shadow over the 2024 election.

It’s impossible to know how large this potential army is, but last October 41% of pro-Trump Americans agreed with the statement that “because things have gotten so far off track, true American patriots may have to resort to violence in order to save our country.” (That view was shared by 22% of independents and 13% of Democrats.)
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/nov/28/sign-up-for-robert-reichs-newsletter
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/nov/28/sign-up-for-robert-reichs-newsletter
We’re seeing the consequences. The day after the Maine secretary of state, Shenna Bellows, barred Trump from the primary ballot there in late December, her home was “swatted”. As Bellows explained, “That’s when someone calls in a fake emergency to evoke a strong law enforcement response to scare the target. Swatting incidents have resulted in casualties although thankfully this one did not.”

Along with the swatting, Bellows discussed “extraordinarily dehumanizing fake images” of her online:

“I know from my previous work that dehumanizing a person is the first step in paving the way for attacks and violence against them. These dehumanizing images and threatening communications directed at me and people I love are dangerous. We should be able to agree to disagree on important issues without threats and violence.”

The Colorado secretary of state, Jena Griswold, has also faced mounting threats since the Colorado supreme court in December disqualified Trump from the state’s primary ballot.

“Within three weeks of the lawsuit being filed, I received 64 death threats,” Griswold has said. “I stopped counting after that. I will not be intimidated. Democracy and peace will triumph over tyranny and violence.”

Jack Smith, the special counsel in charge of two federal prosecutions of Trump, has received a number of death threats. Between April and September of last year, the justice department spent more than $4.4m providing increased security for Smith and his team. On Christmas Day he was swatted.

On 4 August, Trump posted, “IF YOU GO AFTER ME, I’M COMING AFTER YOU!” The following day, a Texas woman left a voicemail for Judge Tanya Chutkan, the judge presiding over the case charging Trump with seeking to overturn the 2020 election, threatening that, “If Trump doesn’t get elected in 2024, we are coming to kill you.”

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...ats-wrong-with-republicans-immigration-claims
Security has been increased for Judge Chutkan, as well. On 7 January, she was swatted.

..... There is a direct and alarming connection between Trump’s political rise and the increase in political violence and threats of such violence in America.

In 2016, the Capitol police recorded fewer than 900 threats against members of Congress. In 2017, after Trump took office, that figure more than quadrupled, according to the Capitol police.

The numbers continued to rise every year of the Trump presidency, peaking at 9,700 in 2021. In 2022, the first full year of Biden’s term, the numbers declined to a still-high 7,500. (The 2023 data is not yet available.)

Data also shows extraordinarily high levels of threats against mayors, federal judges, election workers and administrators, public health officials, and even school board members.

And what about threats on the Republican side of politics ?

The retiring senator Mitt Romney recounted (in McKay Coppins’s biography of him) that during Trump’s 23 January 2021 impeachment for incitement of insurrection, a member of the Republican Senate leadership was leaning toward voting to convict Trump. But after several other senators expressed concern about their personal safety and that of their children, the senator in question voted to acquit.

Former Republican congresswoman Liz Cheney said that in that impeachment vote, “there were members who told me that they were afraid for their own security – afraid, in some instances, for their lives.” She cited how “members of Congress aren’t able to cast votes, or feel that they can’t, because of their own security.”

Just before the House vote on impeachment, the Democratic representative Jason Crow of Colorado said he heard firsthand from Republicans that fear was holding at least two of them back. “I had a lot of conversations with my Republican colleagues last night, and a couple of them broke down in tears – saying that they are afraid for their lives if they vote for this impeachment,” Crow said on MSNBC.

Former representative Peter Meijer, a Republican from Michigan, recalls one of his House colleagues voting to overturn the election results on the evening of January 6, hours after the assault: “My colleague feared for family members, and the danger the vote would put them in.” After voting to impeach Trump, Meijer himself faced so many threats that he felt the need to purchase body armor and make changes to his daily schedule.

Meijer also noted that his colleagues who voted not to certify the 2020 election “knew in their heart of hearts that they should’ve voted to certify, but some had legitimate concerns about the safety of their families. They felt that that vote would put their families in danger.”

Political violence is an inherent part of fascism
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When announcing his retirement, former Republican congressman Anthony Gonzalez cited threats to him and his family after his vote in favor of Trump’s impeachment. Gonzalez was one of 10 House Republicans who voted to impeach Trump. In September 2021, Gonzalez announced he would not seek another term.

www.theguardian.com

As the election looms, we must be alert to Trump’s threats of vigilante justice | Robert Reich

There is a direct and alarming link between Trump’s political rise and the increase in political violence and threats in America
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
 
Big Ron drops out, endorses The God Emperor.

The Donald cans any idea of Haley as VP.
 
sptrawler said:
Interesting, has he run out of money, or fans?
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His performances in debates was not great, and his support outside of Florida not that great either.
Trump being Trump, he will pick a complete outsider to run with as VP.
Someone who will not pose a threat to him running everything, and will toe his party line.
Can't see him picking any of the main contenders as he has bagged them all completely.
Mick
 
basilio said:
Rubbish.. Trump corporation acted fraudulently over many years. Hundreds of millions of dollars of false property valuations designed to gain more favourable loan conditions and/or reduce local property taxes. They got it both ways.
Proven guilty. Awaiting sentence.

Defamation against Jean Carroll. Lied, lied and continues to lie about his sexual abuse of her in the 90's . Found guilty of defamation - then goes out and maintains the lie. Sics his followers onto Jean to make her life a misery in revenge.

But its not just women who call him out for his sexual abuse or courts that find him guilty that are trashed by Donald Trump. He makes no bones about going after anyone who stands against him. How do you think Trump avoided impeachment after the outrageous attempt to stop Congress counting the electoral votes ?

This story goes into how effective Trumps vigilante justice program has impacted on the US. He is a menace.

As the election looms, we must be alert to Trump’s threats of vigilante justice​

Robert Reich
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There is a direct and alarming link between Trump’s political rise and the increase in political violence and threats in America

Donald Trump has galvanized an army of vigilantes who are casting a fearsome shadow over the 2024 election.

It’s impossible to know how large this potential army is, but last October 41% of pro-Trump Americans agreed with the statement that “because things have gotten so far off track, true American patriots may have to resort to violence in order to save our country.” (That view was shared by 22% of independents and 13% of Democrats.)
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/nov/28/sign-up-for-robert-reichs-newsletter
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/nov/28/sign-up-for-robert-reichs-newsletter
We’re seeing the consequences. The day after the Maine secretary of state, Shenna Bellows, barred Trump from the primary ballot there in late December, her home was “swatted”. As Bellows explained, “That’s when someone calls in a fake emergency to evoke a strong law enforcement response to scare the target. Swatting incidents have resulted in casualties although thankfully this one did not.”

Along with the swatting, Bellows discussed “extraordinarily dehumanizing fake images” of her online:

“I know from my previous work that dehumanizing a person is the first step in paving the way for attacks and violence against them. These dehumanizing images and threatening communications directed at me and people I love are dangerous. We should be able to agree to disagree on important issues without threats and violence.”

The Colorado secretary of state, Jena Griswold, has also faced mounting threats since the Colorado supreme court in December disqualified Trump from the state’s primary ballot.

“Within three weeks of the lawsuit being filed, I received 64 death threats,” Griswold has said. “I stopped counting after that. I will not be intimidated. Democracy and peace will triumph over tyranny and violence.”

Jack Smith, the special counsel in charge of two federal prosecutions of Trump, has received a number of death threats. Between April and September of last year, the justice department spent more than $4.4m providing increased security for Smith and his team. On Christmas Day he was swatted.

On 4 August, Trump posted, “IF YOU GO AFTER ME, I’M COMING AFTER YOU!” The following day, a Texas woman left a voicemail for Judge Tanya Chutkan, the judge presiding over the case charging Trump with seeking to overturn the 2020 election, threatening that, “If Trump doesn’t get elected in 2024, we are coming to kill you.”

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...ats-wrong-with-republicans-immigration-claims
Security has been increased for Judge Chutkan, as well. On 7 January, she was swatted.

..... There is a direct and alarming connection between Trump’s political rise and the increase in political violence and threats of such violence in America.

In 2016, the Capitol police recorded fewer than 900 threats against members of Congress. In 2017, after Trump took office, that figure more than quadrupled, according to the Capitol police.

The numbers continued to rise every year of the Trump presidency, peaking at 9,700 in 2021. In 2022, the first full year of Biden’s term, the numbers declined to a still-high 7,500. (The 2023 data is not yet available.)

Data also shows extraordinarily high levels of threats against mayors, federal judges, election workers and administrators, public health officials, and even school board members.

And what about threats on the Republican side of politics ?

The retiring senator Mitt Romney recounted (in McKay Coppins’s biography of him) that during Trump’s 23 January 2021 impeachment for incitement of insurrection, a member of the Republican Senate leadership was leaning toward voting to convict Trump. But after several other senators expressed concern about their personal safety and that of their children, the senator in question voted to acquit.

Former Republican congresswoman Liz Cheney said that in that impeachment vote, “there were members who told me that they were afraid for their own security – afraid, in some instances, for their lives.” She cited how “members of Congress aren’t able to cast votes, or feel that they can’t, because of their own security.”

Just before the House vote on impeachment, the Democratic representative Jason Crow of Colorado said he heard firsthand from Republicans that fear was holding at least two of them back. “I had a lot of conversations with my Republican colleagues last night, and a couple of them broke down in tears – saying that they are afraid for their lives if they vote for this impeachment,” Crow said on MSNBC.

Former representative Peter Meijer, a Republican from Michigan, recalls one of his House colleagues voting to overturn the election results on the evening of January 6, hours after the assault: “My colleague feared for family members, and the danger the vote would put them in.” After voting to impeach Trump, Meijer himself faced so many threats that he felt the need to purchase body armor and make changes to his daily schedule.

Meijer also noted that his colleagues who voted not to certify the 2020 election “knew in their heart of hearts that they should’ve voted to certify, but some had legitimate concerns about the safety of their families. They felt that that vote would put their families in danger.”


When announcing his retirement, former Republican congressman Anthony Gonzalez cited threats to him and his family after his vote in favor of Trump’s impeachment. Gonzalez was one of 10 House Republicans who voted to impeach Trump. In September 2021, Gonzalez announced he would not seek another term.

www.theguardian.com

As the election looms, we must be alert to Trump’s threats of vigilante justice | Robert Reich

There is a direct and alarming link between Trump’s political rise and the increase in political violence and threats in America
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
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Let's talk about Jean.
It was a civil case in which you are found "liable" rather than "guilty". The evidence threshold is low. In this case it was "he said, she said".
She couldn't remember the date or year and made rough estimations.
Trump keeps meticulous day to day records. She couldn't provide even the season it occurred. Hence Trump couldn't prove if he was even in the city at the time.

Shes a fruitloop, look it up.
She's the one that said "rape is sexy". Lives in some kind of forest and paints rocks.
Called her cat "Vagina" and her black partner an ape.
The details of where her rape happened was a episode on law and order (which was also her favourite show). Videos and interviews of the above available.

Her book sales were tanking prior and she was banking on that to retire on. She added the Trump revelations and guess what happened.

They changed the law for one year just so they could charge Trump. Yep NY Democrats changed the law just so they could go after Trump. Hence "Lawfare".

She is actually funded by reid hoffman the billionaire. He is a large Democrat donor that even funded the organisation that physically harassed Republican members. Interestingly enough he also funded Nikki Haley's campaign. He also liked visiting Epsteins pedo Island 7 times.

The judge..... well, he was a Clinton pick, he oversaw big political Democrat donor damaging events such as sam bankman-fried. Threw out the case involving Lehman for "not enough evidence".
But his chevron shilling was his ultimate outing. This case is very interesting reading and shows exactly who is protected. He is a chevron invested former tobacco industry lawyer who gets hand picked in these types of cases.
NEW YORK—September 1, 2020—Dozens of legal organizations around the world representing more than 500,000 lawyers along with over 200 individual lawyers today submitted a judicial complaint documenting a series of shocking violations of the judicial code of conduct by United States Judge Lewis A. Kaplan targeting human rights lawyer Steven Donziger after he helped Indigenous peoples win a historic judgment against Chevron in Ecuador to clean up the pollution caused by decades of oil drilling with no environmental controls.

The complaint was formally filed by the National Lawyers Guild in conjunction with the International Association of Democratic Lawyers (IADL). IADL was founded in Paris in 1946 to fight to uphold the rule of law around the world and has consultative status with UN agencies.
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I don't think she is credible but that wasn't the point. The point is that the democrats are doing enough shady sht to put doubts in enough people's minds.
You scratch the surface and a whole heap of corrupt looking incidents start adding up.

You on the other hand present to me some basic level propaganda that doesn't present the full view of what's going on. I could go on with more about Jean Carroll case and the property valuations are a huge list to get through. But I'm sick of wasting my time.

I'm mixed feelings about the leftist propaganda getting rejected around the world. Imo it will start the rise of right authoritarians who I dislike as much as leftist ones. But with the extreme idiocy of the left the last decade I'm not surprised.
 
mullokintyre said:
His performances in debates was not great, and his support outside of Florida not that great either.
Trump being Trump, he will pick a complete outsider to run with as VP.
Someone who will not pose a threat to him running everything, and will toe his party line.
Can't see him picking any of the main contenders as he has bagged them all completely.
Mick
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You have to wonder who would want vp under Trump. It would ruin you in the long run.
 
moXJO said:
They changed the law for one year just so they could charge Trump. Yep NY Democrats changed the law just so they could go after Trump. Hence "Lawfare".
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This statement I suggest highlights the distortions made from the sources you get your information from.

The Adult Survivors Act legislation open a 12 month window for people to make civil claims for earlier instances of abuse. In the end 3700 people made claims and the one against Donald Trump was just such a claim. Attempting to say this was put in place just to get Trump is misdirection on a massive scale.

All the personal abuse of Jean Carroll ? Just more misdirection. The fact that there were a number of contemporary witnesses who testified at the trial is ignored. Trump did not testify. A jury decided on hearing the evidence that he had abused Jean Carroll and then defamed her with her abuse and denials.

www.abc.net.au

Multiple high-profile figures were charged with historic sexual assault in November because of a one-year law in New York

More than 3,700 legal claims were filed in the 12 months the Adult Survivors Act was active, with many coming against big-name celebrities and a handful of politicians.
www.abc.net.au www.abc.net.au
 
basilio said:
This statement I suggest highlights the distortions made from the sources you get your information from.

The Adult Survivors Act legislation open a 12 month window for people to make civil claims for earlier instances of abuse. In the end 3700 people made claims and the one against Donald Trump was just such a claim. Attempting to say this was put in place just to get Trump is misdirection on a massive scale.

All the personal abuse of Jean Carroll ? Just more misdirection. The fact that there were a number of contemporary witnesses who testified at the trial is ignored. Trump did not testify. A jury decided on hearing the evidence that he had abused Jean Carroll and then defamed her with her abuse and denials.

www.abc.net.au

Multiple high-profile figures were charged with historic sexual assault in November because of a one-year law in New York

More than 3,700 legal claims were filed in the 12 months the Adult Survivors Act was active, with many coming against big-name celebrities and a handful of politicians.
www.abc.net.au www.abc.net.au
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Keep telling yourself that.
 
Eight years later Donald Trumps observation on how loyal his supporters are is truer than ever.

Whether through brash ignorance, blind support or just believing whatever Trump tells them to believe, seemingly nothing he does persuades his supporters that he should be the Sun God.

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Donald Trump: I could "shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose any voters"​

According to Republican presidential contender Donald Trump, his supporters are a staunchly loyal bunch -- so loyal, in fact, that the billionaire could get away with some pretty drastic acts and his fanbase wouldn't bat an eye.

"My people are so smart -- and you know what else they say about my people? The polls?" Trump asked a crowd at a Sioux Center, Iowa, rally Saturday. "I have the most loyal people -- did you ever see that?"

"I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, OK?" he said, referring to the major street in New York City that cuts through Manhattan's large commercial district. "It's, like, incredible."


www.cbsnews.com

Donald Trump: I could "shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose any voters"

The Republican presidential candidate speaks out on the "incredible" loyalty of his fans
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If this happens I reckon the US would blow up into a civil war.... but wow, the Soros' eh

 
Vivek alerted Trump to the dangers of CBDC. Trump seems to have taken it on board and said he will never allow a CBDC.
 
A lot of people think governments are not corrupt swamps. There's a reason Trump kept voicing just how bad they are. I'm always shocked people can look at everything the governments do and still lick boot.

 

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