Elon Musk to make Twitter a free speech platform

[3 hound]

Challenged no, cancelled yes.

It sounds like you are living in an alternate reality, your concerns describe the Twitter Musk is ending and why he is ending it, projection much.

This is potentially the greatest boost to public discourse and democracy since the internet. The establishment thought police have just got a bloody nose, the market has just been pried open. The corrupt establishment are in a lot of pain, they thought their domination was complete and unassailable.


I say potentially for hopefully obvious reasons.

 

[wayneL]

Challenged no, cancelled yes.

The thing is Horace, is that many on the moderately opposite side of you have been being cancelled for the last 4 or 5 years.

One need only see the number of accounts which are suddenly reappeared.

I don't think that those on the left will be cancelled like those of the right were, but we shall see about that.

I for one say that let everybody have their point of view, left or right and have reasonable discussions.... Within what is lawful of course.

 

[SirRumpole]

I for one say that let everybody have their point of view, left or right and have reasonable discussions.... Within what is lawful of course.

Fine, just don't criticise Musk, Tesla , SpaceX or any other of his businesses.

Anyway, it's irrelevant to me as I don't use Twitter.

 

[DB008]

It's so refreshing to have some truth come out. Remember Twitter banned people for sharing a link to the Hunter Biden laptop story a few years ago, which actually turned out to be true - all to protect the Bidens.

Twitter was a left wing echo chamber. Anything that didn't go with their narrative, was censored. Twitter programmers also used bots to inflate peoples followers, making them seem more popular than reality.

And the icing on the cake, the left eating itself....








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[3 hound]

Fine, just don't criticise Musk, Tesla , SpaceX or any other of his businesses.

Anyway, it's irrelevant to me as I don't use Twitter.

Clearly it is relevant to you. Twitter is not the point here, it's the breaking of the one sided big tech monopoly on thought and public discourse.

 

[DB008]

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[3 hound]

"The extreme antibody reaction from those who fear free speech says it all,” - Elon Musk on the left's reaction to him buying Twitter.

 

[wayneL]

Fine, just don't criticise Musk, Tesla , SpaceX or any other of his businesses.

Anyway, it's irrelevant to me as I don't use Twitter.

I'm wondering how you can make such categorical statements if it's you don't use and have no experience on the platform?

 

[3 hound]

I'm wondering how you can make such categorical statements if it's you don't use and have no experience on the platform?

He posted articles whereby shock horror as the boss of Tesla/spaceX etc Elon Musk likes his employees to talk a certain way about their employer.


Free factoid: every government employee in Australia in both state and federal have as a condition of their employment major restrictions on what they can say when and where about the government.

So do most big organisations, look at the sacking of Israel Folau for speaking about his religion.

None of this should be a shock to any adult who has ever worked for a living but it comes as a shock to @SirRumpole

 

[SirRumpole]

He posted articles whereby shock horror as the boss of Tesla/spaceX etc Elon Musk likes his employees to talk a certain way about their employer.


Free factoid: every government employee in Australia in both state and federal have as a condition of their employment major restrictions on what they can say when and where about the government.

So do most big organisations, look at the sacking of Israel Folau for speaking about his religion.

None of this should be a shock to any adult who has ever worked for a living but it comes as a shock to @SirRumpole

The fact that such regulations exist at all proves the point that we don't have freedom of speech at all, so it's pretty useless to claim that a repressor like Musk is going to improve the situation.

Whistleblowers in any area who point out real deficiencies in a system should be encouraged and protected, but here we are pretending that just because someone is a billionaire we can simply ignore his trangressions in the area of free speech.

 

[3 hound]

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The fact that such regulations exist at all proves the point that we don't have freedom of speech at all, so it's pretty useless to claim that a repressor like Musk is going to improve the situation.

Whistleblowers in any area who point out real deficiencies in a system should be encouraged and protected, but here we are pretending that just because someone is a billionaire we can simply ignore his trangressions in the area of free speech.

His transgressions are all in your imagination, the guy hasn't even had time to unpack his lunch box yet, RUOK??

 

[SirRumpole]

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His transgressions are all in your imagination, the guy hasn't even had time to unpack his lunch box yet, RUOK??

If you read the article I posted you will know he's got form.

 

[3 hound]

If you read the article I posted you will know he's got form.

We get it, you are scared of and oppose diversity and inclusivity.

 

[SirRumpole]

We get it, you are scared of and oppose diversity and inclusivity.

No, Musk is when criticism of him is concerned.

Social media should be publicly owned as is is a public resource, having it owned by one person is what you call diverse and inclusive ?

Ha ha ha ha.

 

[wayneL]

Well, already shadow banking and much censorship has been lifted. Oppressive leftists all flouncing (to Gettr of all places LMAO).

So far, so good.

 

[Knobby22]

No, Musk is when criticism of him is concerned.

Social media should be publicly owned as is is a public resource, having it owned by one person is what you call diverse and inclusive ?

Ha ha ha ha.

I actually think it makes it easier.
He can be directly criticised rather than have a shadowy company controlling it.
He can also be more easily sued.

The problem is that now people just make stuff up and publish it.
A lot of twitter publishers are secret and often political or foreign operatives.
One of the things Musk said is that everyone will have to have an identity.

This will mean that if you are deliberately providing disinformation you can be warned and charged. There are too many gullibles out there that believe anything. It creates a class of people who will subvert democracy and support foreign powers.

 

[The Triangle]

People are confusing the issues here... Free speech is a two part issue - part one is being able to say what you want, part two is the consequences (or lack of) for what you say. I'm sure Elon will let anyone post anything. But he'll also probably have no issue going after people for what they post.

The threat of financial ruin works with a greater efficiency then the threat of being locked out of twitter or facebook. The LNP know this very well.

 

[IFocus]

Yes he is an engineering genius but that doesn't make him a social libertarian.

I have the feeling he should stick to engineering and leave social media alone. People with egos the size of his could well regard Twitter as his playground to influence discussion the way he wants it to go.

I hate Twitter, it's full of nutcases saying very little of substance, but so far people seem to be able to say what they want, I doubt whether that will last.

Agree on all fronts Rump, I have little or no interest in Twitter or Musks plans (absolutely agree with Knobby re Musks engineering genus) but would never trust any billionaires judgment of social issues or media (perhaps exception for Warren Buffett).

And yes freedom for Musk but not the peasants

Didn't Twitter share price tank after Trump got pushed?

 

[moXJO]

Seems twitter employees are furiously changing scripts.

Shadow banning of large accounts has changed.

A lot of the bots are disappearing.

Leftist are leaving in droves while the right leaning accounts are gaining followers.

There's a huge drop in attack bots that generally attack right leaning accounts.

 

[3 hound]

Seems twitter employees are furiously changing scripts.

Shadow banning of large accounts has changed.

A lot of the bots are disappearing.

Leftist are leaving in droves while the right leaning accounts are gaining followers.

There's a huge drop in attack bots that generally attack right leaning accounts.

The wicked always fear exposure.


The part I scoff at is the posters who have a problem with the implications for free speech now but have never had a problem with the many free speech violations Twitter has been doing previously.

It proves these are not interested in free speech, they are only interested in stopping speech they don't agree with.