The ScoMo Government

[Smurf1976]

I stay well away from current affairs when socialising, in today's world even having an opinion is deemed to be aggressive unless among good friends.

One thing that really has changed for the worse is the loss of society's ability to calmly and objectively discuss the merits or otherwise of any particular idea. Intellectual debate has sadly given way to outright tribalism.

Personally there's a couple of friends I wouldn't hesitate to have such a discussion with on any subject but in general I avoid politics completely as you say.

Incidentally, of the two who I would discuss it with both are members of a political party. Logically I'd have thought they'd be the most tribal but it seems the reverse is true, they're far more objective than most people seem to be these days.

 

[macca]

One thing that really has changed for the worse is the loss of society's ability to calmly and objectively discuss the merits or otherwise of any particular idea. Intellectual debate has sadly given way to outright tribalism.

Personally there's a couple of friends I wouldn't hesitate to have such a discussion with on any subject but in general I avoid politics completely as you say.

Incidentally, of the two who I would discuss it with both are members of a political party. Logically I'd have thought they'd be the most tribal but it seems the reverse is true, they're far more objective than most people seem to be these days.

unfortunately, some family members are among the most biased.

One would not even read an article in the Daily Telegraph saying that they would not waste their time.

I read News, ABC, SMH, Nine and Seven news and apparently that means that I am a rabid right winger even though 3 from 5 are either strongly left or left leaning.

Very hard to discuss current affairs when people won't actually discuss, only lecture

 

[wayneL]

unfortunately, some family members are among the most biased.

One would not even read an article in the Daily Telegraph saying that they would not waste their time.

I read News, ABC, SMH, Nine and Seven news and apparently that means that I am a rabid right winger even though 3 from 5 are either strongly left or left leaning.

Very hard to discuss current affairs when people won't actually discuss, only lecture

SIL is the fly in the ointment in our family, and a world-class gaslighter.

EG I have made our family aware of the WEF website, but she has somehow convinced most that it's some sort of ring in website and a conspiracy theory.

Likewise the first data dump from pfizer is some nefarious scheme from some other third party.

...and don't mention the ****ing war.

 

[IFocus]

LMAO.

Yet another word that has been prostituted for a nefarious anti-cultural agenda. What next? A parliamentary safe space for intellectual an emotional weaklings?

The truth is, SHY is a monumental hypocrite and full of grade A, USDA approved bullshyte.

I don't begrudge her having a sledge, so long the she grows the **** up and has the cajones befitting of an Australian parliamentarian, just like she expects Scotty to.

Ahh a lot to unpack there I wont be touching it carry on.

 

[SirRumpole]

Targetted response ?

'I'm outraged': Liberal upper house MP to quit over federal flood funding

Only the flood-affected shires that fall in the National Party-held seat of Page have so far received additional disaster payments, something NSW Liberal MLC Catherine Cusack says she "can't defend".

www.abc.net.au

 

[sptrawler]

Targetted response ?

'I'm outraged': Liberal upper house MP to quit over federal flood funding

Only the flood-affected shires that fall in the National Party-held seat of Page have so far received additional disaster payments, something NSW Liberal MLC Catherine Cusack says she "can't defend".

www.abc.net.au

Obviously she wanted it in her electorate. Lol
Get on the end of the queue sweetheart. Lol
For Christ sake come to W.A, we don't have floods, it's a bit hot in summer but there is plenty of work.
The Eastern States it's either a flood or a fire and you want W.A taxpayers to sort it.

 

[macca]

Obviously she wanted it in her electorate. Lol
Get on the end of the queue sweetheart. Lol
For Christ sake come to W.A, we don't have floods, it's a bit hot in summer but there is plenty of work.
The Eastern States it's either a flood or a fire and you want W.A taxpayers to sort it.

Plenty been trying lately but you mob won't let them in

 

[Knobby22]

Scott Morrison has completely forgotten what it means to be a Conservative Government.

Pundits say he is going to splash the cash soon giving the punters voters cash in a two off payment trying to buy the votes. The first one is to sweeten you up before the election, the second as a reward.

Debt what's that?
Will the budget have financial and taxation reform, long term planning, Vision?
Surprise me guys.

 

[greggles]

$5.5 billion wasted on non-existent submarines.

Cancelled French submarine program could cost taxpayers more than $5 billion

Australia's torpedoed French submarine program could eventually cost taxpayers up to $5.5 billion, despite the contract being torn up well before construction was to begin

www.abc.net.au

Imagine all the good that could have been done with that money in health, education or infrastructure.

A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away... the Liberal Party was the party of fiscal discipline. What a joke.

 

[sptrawler]

$5.5 billion wasted on non-existent submarines.

Cancelled French submarine program could cost taxpayers more than $5 billion

Australia's torpedoed French submarine program could eventually cost taxpayers up to $5.5 billion, despite the contract being torn up well before construction was to begin

www.abc.net.au

Imagine all the good that could have been done with that money in health, education or infrastructure.

A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away... the Liberal Party was the party of fiscal discipline. What a joke.

Absolutely, it was a joke to order them in the first place IMO, moronic decision.
As you say any fiscal discipline has been thrown out the window, the amount of money thrown around in the last couple of years, is beyond belief.

 

[Smurf1976]

For Christ sake come to W.A

I hear that your state government is now advertising the virtues of the state on radio interstate.

 

[PZ99]

Gotta admit for WA it would be nice having the ASX open at 7am and close at 1pm

 

[sptrawler]

Gotta admit for WA it would be nice having the ASX open at 7am and close at 1pm

I find that great, get up put the kettle on, fire up the computer, check @bigdog overnight report, then it's comsec.

 

[sptrawler]

There seems to be a push to replace Scomo with Frydenberg, clever move IMO, nullifies all the anti christian vilification.
Difficult for the media to attack a minority religion, it's probably a shame he isn't coloured and gay, that would really throw them IMO.
I certainly hope that Scomo takes the coalition to the next election, the last thing they need, is to win it. ?

https://www.news.com.au/national/politics/josh-frydenberg-responds-to-leadership-questions-in-event-of-hung-parliament/news-story/01d2e62a539711c653e5f78de9f011ad

Treasurer Josh Frydenberg emerges as preferred Liberal Leader ahead of Scott Morrison & Peter Dutton - Roy Morgan Research

www.roymorgan.com

Josh Frydenberg: the Liberal Party's next prime minister?

The Treasurer has emerged from the Liberal leadership convulsions not only unscathed, but a mere heartbeat from the prime ministership.

www.smh.com.au

 

[PZ99]

It would need to be a 70% majority vote to change the PM plus they would need to avoid a possible voter revolt and then ScoMo would need to recontest his seat to save it... none of which are likely

 

[Humid]

There seems to be a push to replace Scomo with Frydenberg, clever move IMO, nullifies all the anti christian vilification.
Difficult for the media to attack a minority religion, it's probably a shame he isn't coloured and gay, that would really throw them IMO.
I certainly hope that Scomo takes the coalition to the next election, the last thing they need, is to win it. ?

https://www.news.com.au/national/politics/josh-frydenberg-responds-to-leadership-questions-in-event-of-hung-parliament/news-story/01d2e62a539711c653e5f78de9f011ad

Treasurer Josh Frydenberg emerges as preferred Liberal Leader ahead of Scott Morrison & Peter Dutton - Roy Morgan Research

www.roymorgan.com

Josh Frydenberg: the Liberal Party's next prime minister?

The Treasurer has emerged from the Liberal leadership convulsions not only unscathed, but a mere heartbeat from the prime ministership.

www.smh.com.au

And you and your mates on here put them in power.....you know who you are lol

 

[sptrawler]

It would need to be a 70% majority vote to change the PM plus they would need to avoid a possible voter revolt and then ScoMo would need to recontest his seat to save it... none of which are likely

It won't happen, the media is just trying to change the rhetoric, just in case the anti Scomo rhetoric hasn't worked.
Last time they copped a lot of backlash from the punters, this time they have run a long game of blaming Morrison for everything, but they were burnt last time.
So they now want to put up a possible alternative to reduce the odds.
Really who cares, like I said earlier the next government has to make some hard decisions, the last time Labor were in the retirement age went up to 67 years old .
Macron who we are pissing on ourselves over, is copping crap for increasing the retirement age to 65, we are a weird lot IMO.

'Risky but it's a necessity': Macron wants to push back France's retirement age to 65

France's finance minister said pushing back the retirement age from 62 to 65 was the "best way of protecting our social model."

www.cnbc.com

 

[sptrawler]

And you and your mates on here put them in power.....you know who you are lol

How much money did you say you were on? Didn't this mob drop your tax rate?
Nothing like being a muppet eh.
Jeez there is no wonder Australia is going down the S bend.

 

[Humid]

How much money did you say you were on? Didn't this mob drop your tax rate?
Nothing like being a muppet eh.
Jeez there is no wonder Australia is going down the S bend.

No it's gone down the s bend from your choices old timer....9 years of your government
Own it

 

[sptrawler]

No it's gone down the s bend from your choices old timer....9 years of your government
Own it

Own what? The all ords at record highs?, the lowest unemployment rates in years? you on record wages? everyone on welfare getting a doubling of payments during the covid issue? businesses getting support to help keep people on wages while they were closed down?
What are you actually talking about really.
Try to engage your miniscule brain, for a change. ?
What do people have to own? I wasn't the only one that didn't vote for silly Billy, is he you brother in law or something?
The reason Labor need to be voted in is, because some serious budget cuts have to be enacted and the coalition wouldn't be able to get them through.
Jeez you really need to live a bit longer, to get the hang of this.